Another Obama/Media Lie Shot Down!
@whiteheather39 (24403)
United States
September 14, 2008 9:56am CST
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ABC News Exposes Palin Book Banning Inquiry
ABC News does some actual reporting and exposes more about Sarah Palin's "rhetorical inquiries' about banning books at the local library. See the video below.
http://weneedobama.blogspot.com/2008/09/abc-news-exposes-palin-book-banning.html
Another Media Lie shot in the foot!Thursday, September 11, 2008. This new accusation against Palin has been proved to be lie. Snopes very clearly states that this Obama' new dig is a bare faced lie.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp
When is Obama's campaign people and the media going to realise that making accusations that can be clearly proven to be outright lies does nothing IMO to enhance his appeal for President?
Your comments on this latest piece of slander?
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@campaignmonitor (5)
• United States
15 Sep 08
I wrote the article you linked to that called out Sarah Palin for making "rhetorical inquiries" about banning books, as revealed by the ABC News video I included in my post.
You need to be more careful when you fly off the handle with a post like this and accuse someone like me of lying. If you actually read my article, you will note that I (and ABC News) NEVER accused Sarah Palin of ACTUALLY banning any books.
As you can see with your own eyes from what I wrote and from the ABC News video I posted, Sarah Palin repeatedly asked Wasilla's librarian how the librarian would REACT to the idea of banning books. When Sarah Palin didn't get the answer she wanted (the librarian said would refuse to ban books if asked), she FIRED THE LIBRARIAN a month or so later.
You do yourself and your friends here a disservice by distorting my writing (and the reporting of ABC News) in order to post a breathless attack on the supposed lies of Obama supporters. Some people out there are indeed under the misapprehension that Sarah Palin ACTUALLY banned books, but I (and ABC News) are not among that set.
I hope you will update your original discussion post with a correction and an apology.
KCG
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Ok, now anyone want the facts?
The list, of course, is an exaggeration but Palin did ask the librarian about the porcedure for banning books that did not adhere to her religious beliefs. The librarian, who has responded to a CNN inquiry into the incident, said that she told Palin that she would not cooperate with any attempt to remove books from the shelves of the library. In response, Palin attempted to fire her for not cooperationg. It was only in response to community outrage that Mary Ellen Emmons kept her job. I see no reason for the Anchorage Daily News to have made up the following news accounts:
[b]From the January 31, 1997 edition of Anchorage Daily News:
Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin fired the city's police chief and the library director without warning Thursday, accusing them of not fully supporting her efforts to govern. Irl Stambaugh and Mary Ellen Emmons said letters signed by Palin were dropped on their desks Thursday afternoon telling them their jobs were over as of Feb. 13 and that they no longer needed to report to work.
Emmons has been the city's library director for seven years. Stambaugh has headed the police department since it was created in 1993. Before that, he served 22 years with the Anchorage Police Department rising to the rank of captain before retiring. [/b]
Community anger over Palin's attempt to fire the librarian was apparently intense, forcing Palin to reverse her decision:
[b]From the The Anchorage Daily News on February 1, 1997:
City librarian Mary Ellen Emmons will stay, but Police Chief Irl Stambaugh is on his own, Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin announced Friday.
The decision came one day after letters signed by Palin were dropped on Stambaugh's and Emmon's desks, telling them their jobs were over as of Feb. 13.[/b]
Check out the Anchorage Daily News website yourselves if you still don't believe.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Spalladino you are just proving again to me that the media prints what it wants true or not. If you had read all of the snopes rebuttal you would have read the the question posed in fall, 1996 was hypothetical and entirely appropriate. A patron had asked the library to remove a title the year before and the mayor wanted to understand how such disputes were handled.
It is so blatantly obvious that the media (newspapers) print stories confirming or denying such articles and gossip depending of who's side the owner of the newspaper supports.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Kennyrose thanks for posting these two links. I really had to laugh when it was said that Obama does not just have skeletons in his closet but has real live people there too!
BTW I DO judge Obama by the company he keeps.
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@medney1988 (560)
• United States
14 Sep 08
thanks spalladino! i can always count on you for some back up!!
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I read that list and I cant beleive anyone would ban these books alot are classics!
Grapes of Wrath. Little red riding hoood.
My friend Flica just to name a few.
and how can one banned a book that hadnt been writting at that time!?
Like Harry POtter books!
This is down right childess on the part od Obama!
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@zydecokitten (451)
• United States
15 Sep 08
You have no clue what you are talking about, and Mr Obama did not make the list, you have no clue as to why they are on the list and he had nothing to do with it what so ever. Try to communicate more clearly and know what you are talking about before you attempt an opinion. This is a media issue. It is right wing conservatives and the Religious Right that wants these books banned for reaons which you will not understand and I do not agree with.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
15 Sep 08
I read that list and I cant beleive anyone would ban these books alot are classics!
Are you serious?? Have you ever actually read an OFFICIAL banned books list? some of the books that have been banned over the yrs ARE classics and fabulous ones at that!
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Zedy.
I didnt say he made the list!!!!!!!
And both parties at this time are being childish!
And this was my opinion on the names of books Isaw on the list that I coudnt beleive anyone would want banned as for that fact neither did Susan.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Honestly, I hate to say it but this sort of thing has become politics as usual. Each campaign season it gets worse. The really pathetic part during this election year, is the fact that Obama especially, and here lately McCain too, both preach change. How can it possibly be change in politics, Washington, or failed policies when they continue to play the same childish games during the campaign season.
If they are not tearing into each other and making false accusations, they are telling the voters what ever will gain them votes and then changing their stories as necessary! When will politicians realize that this is exactly the sort of games that has gotten our great nation where it is today, and in such serious need of help and change - true change - not campaign rhetoric!!!!
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Neither have I seen anyone actually accused of starting the accusation. Snopes refers to it as "from an e-mail and rumours that are swirling around". However it is kind of obvious that someone who is not happy with McCain's choice of VP started the ball rolling.
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@campaignmonitor (5)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Please remember that there is an honest debate here with respect to whether Sarah Palin asked about banning books in the Wasilla public library. I agree, as noted above, that she did not in fact have any books banned -- as claimed by the false email that was debunked by the Snopes article that whiteheather linked to. However, ABC News and other media outlets have reported that while Sarah Palin was a city councilor and a mayor, she asked the town librarian what her reaction to having books banned would be. As ABC News reported, a month after the librarian said that she would not support banning books, Sarah Palin fired her.
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@medney1988 (560)
• United States
14 Sep 08
and when are mccain supporters going to realize that when the debates start everyone is going to see right through mccain. he and palin are playing the victim. give me one good reason i should vote for mccain. and i don't want somthing stupid. i mean pick an issue like tax reform, education, immigration and tell me what mccain can do that is soooo great.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
15 Sep 08
twoey68 Thank you for the link. It is unbelievable that a anyone wanting to lead this country could plan to leave us to the mercies of our enemies. No wonder so many foreign countries support Obama!
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Like I said I don't believe everything I read but when the words are coming right out of his mouth it's kind of hard to say he didn't say that. When I heard his plans, I didn't think of just me, my Hubby or my family...mostly I thought of my Niece and Nephew who are 13 and 11. I don't want them growing up in a terrorist world...where they have to be afraid to speak up, where they may be stoned or beheaded for breaking the laws...that's how things are done in alot of those countries we're fighting right now. I don't believe for a second that if we're left defenseless that they won't move right in and before you know it, take over. Afterall, most of those foreign countries support BO, b/c they know he's planning to leave the doors wide open for them to walk right in.
I think everyone thinking of voting for BO should watch this video and then look at their children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews and ask themselves if they want them at the mercy of a President who plans to leave them defensesless and helpless. I want better for my Niece and Nephew...I want them to be able to grow up with the same freedoms I've had all my life.
I know that McCain isn't perfect but he knows first hand what those ppl are capable of. He knows what they would do if given the chance...and he has no intention of giving them that chance.
**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I'll give you a really good reason...one that you should really think about. BO has stated that if elected he will disarm all our nuclear weapons, stop nuclear weapon development and make it illegal to produce the things needed to make the nuclear weapons. That will leave us totally defenseless. Now ask yourself this...if terrorists attacked us on 9/11 knowing we had the weapons to wipe them off the face the earth, what would stop them from simply taking over the US when we have no way to defend ourselves?
At least McCain will keep us safe and not line us up for the slaughter. He has been a POW and knows what the enemies are capable of.
If you don't believe this is BO's intention...here is a link to a video...OF HIM SPEAKING...I don't believe everything I read but when I see the words coming out of his mouth he can't deny it. Do you really want to chance the safety of your friends and family to someone who is going to take away our defenses and line us up for slaughter?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6UZaGan0CI&feature=related
**AT PEACE WITHIN**
~~STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS~~
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@campaignmonitor (5)
• United States
15 Sep 08
I wrote the article you linked to that called out Sarah Palin for making "rhetorical inquiries" about banning books.
You need to be more careful when you fly off the handle with a post like yours and accuse someone of lying. If you read my article again, you will note that I (and ABC News) NEVER accused Sarah Palin of ACTUALLY banning any books. As you can see with your own eyes in the ABC News expose video in my blog post, Sarah Palin asked Wasilla's librarian several times how she would REACT to the idea of banning books.
You do yourself a disservice by distorting my writing in order to post a breathless attack against Obama supporters. Some people out there are indeed under the misapprehension that Sarah Palin actually banned books but I (and ABC News) are not among that set. I hope you will update your original discussion item with a correction and an apology.
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@campaignmonitor (5)
• United States
15 Sep 08
Sorry for the double comment below, I thought my browser crashed.
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@campaignmonitor (5)
• United States
15 Sep 08
I write a blog on my own time and am not affiliated with the campaign in any way.
You really need to think out your replies a bit more. My posts title included that ABC News "EXPOSES Palin Book Banning Inquiry". That is exactly what it did -- it exposed her INQUIRY into banning books in the Wasilla public libary. The article you linked to only debunked the false email that was circulating that claimed that Palin ACTUALLY banned books. As I said in my reply to you, I agree that she did not in fact have any books banned. You falsely equate the proven fact that she ASKED about banning books to the debunked claim that she actually had any books banned.
I am sure you and most of your readers here would understand that when someone out there, such as yourself, accuses me of lying, it is perfectly justified to feel strongly about such a mischaracterization of what I wrote.
I continue to hope that you will post a correction and include an apology for saying I was lying in my post.
KCG
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
14 Sep 08
So who do you vote for anyhow? I guess there is a lot of people who are going to stay home this election. Sometimes I wish that the presidents would be allowed to stay for three terms. I think Obama is dangerous and McCain should have stuck up for traditional rights so he would not have Sarah Palin stand up for him.
So it seems that both parties are wrong.
I guess it is a case of not reading it through and only jumping to your own conclusions. Inquiring about the policy of banning books does not mean you want the library to ban books, it is just you want to know how it is done. Mind you I would have those books that are dangerous kept in the adult section and not in the elementary school section of the library.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Sadly I feel it is a choice of the lesser of two evils. However as I feel Obama is truly evil and a danger to this country I have no other choice than to vote for McCain. I had thought of not voting but if everyone thought that way then for sure Obama would win.
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@sumofalltears (3988)
• United States
15 Sep 08
The only thing I have to say is we might as well get used to this slander and name calling, there is another two months to the election. This adult cat fighting is one of the reasons I hate politics....and the worst part is one of these childish cat fighters is going to lead our country! Pretty sad if you ask me.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
15 Sep 08
I agree with both of you this is part of what I wrote in my comment to response #8:
"They are both playing a ridiculous game of lets see who can tell the biggest whopper instead of telling the American people in plain language (not beating around the bush) how they stand on issues that are important to us."
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
15 Sep 08
EXACTLY!! I wish our politicians would grow up and stop this fighting and name calling. It is time that our politics returns to the important things and becomes about the issues, and who is best for the job of President and Commander in Chief. I wonder if that will ever happen? Probably not.
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@zydecokitten (451)
• United States
15 Sep 08
WHITEHEATHER, you made a biggoted racial slur in this thread, if your thread is gone it is because I reported you. That was uncalled for and what it reflects is a trait that you should be ashamed of and elminiates any respect for your opinon here what-so-ever. You owe the person an apology and need to learn a lesson from this. I am spitting angry but I am not the kind of person that will respond in kind by calling YOU names.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
15 Sep 08
So that you can all stop getting in such an uproar I have requested that this discussion be deleted. It seem you just like to start trouble.
Copy of request:
Please delete my discussion as the threads have become very ugly and racial. This was not my intention.
Discussion number:
http://www.mylot.com/w/di...
Thank you
Whiteheather 39
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
17 Sep 08
zydecokitten What posts are you referring to? Give me just one example! You and your friends are the ones who decided to smear this discussion with your asinine remarks. I have checked out some of your others posting and you are an illiterate overbearing jackass who needs to get a life!
@zydecokitten (451)
• United States
16 Sep 08
sndcain, my comments regarding racism were directed towards whitefeather, a supporter of McCain, so you comment to me was way out of place. If you have read some of her posts you can find out for yourself that she is racists despite having a multi-racial grandchilds.
My comment was not directed towards the issue that you have just brought up, it is not all about you.
So get your facts straight about what you are talking about before you TRY to insult me, you are just bringing attention to your lack of understanding regarding the debate that is going on in the thread. Additionally, I am a white female and have never, ever been a racist and in my chosen career have been a proponent of anything that would possibly reek of discrimination.
@zydecokitten (451)
• United States
15 Sep 08
What makes you think that ANYTHING, negative said about McCain and Palin, unless you hear it out of their mouths, comes from Obama or his camp? Have you heard of the MEDIA? Everything comes from the media. kennyrose said that "130 attorneys were sent from OBAMA to Alaska to dig dirt on Palin", kennyrose knows everything PFFFFT. I think the real count was 30 and don't you think that there is someone in the FBI that needed to check out miss no-name/know nothing? Would it have to have been someone from the Obama camp? I am sure all the Republicans cannot fathom that it would be possible that anyone one else would have the need to check out the potential Vice President of the country other than Obama.
Obama is criticized for running such a polite campaign, isn't that strange that you think he is being a bully. It is the Republican's are running gutter politics as ususal. He is on target with the issues. It is McCain who said "this is a campaign on personalities, not on issues". That is because he has no issues, it is business or BUSHNESS, AS USUAL for McCain, he has nothing to say, because he will have nothing to do but rubber stamp what Bush has done, four more years of Bush, is what you will get. WE cannot tolerate four more years of Bush.
Have you seen the tape of Palin asking "what is the daily responsibility of the
Vice President?" How charming that she admits not having a clue. How about the one where she says "the war in Iraq is God's Will?" I have always said that Bush thinks he is God, however, he is not. Evidently Palin thinks he is too. The war was strictly Bush's will, wrong people for the wrong war, the Arabs hit the twin towers in NY so he started a war in Iraq. Make sense? Probably to some of you it does.
I just saw a tape where people were asked basic questions and could not answer them. "Where did Kentucky Fried Chicken originate?" "what is the religion in Israel?"... no one knew or thought of the name of Kentucky, or the religion practiced in Israel. They thought that Mississippi was a country. It was horrific to see how stupid people are in this country. But now I understand why people are voting for McCain and Palin. Something I never understood before I saw that tape.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
16 Sep 08
Yes it is horrific to see how stupid people are in this country. But now I understand why you gave this response,
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
14 Sep 08
White, the McCain/Palin camp put Sarah on stage and lied to the American people, and they have never adimited it. She supported the bridge to nowhere, and took the money, and when congress attacked it, she never sent the money back to Washington. If she was so against this project (which the facts do not support) then why didn't she just write a check back to Washington for all of the money they received. Sarah Palin says that she is against earmarks, yet she has a long history of asking for earmarks, and spending them. She hated earmarks so much that she hired a lobbist as mayor, and received $24 million in earmarks while mayor. Last year under the Great reformer, Palin asked for and received $550 million in earmarks (What a great reformer she is), and this year she cut her spending back some, only asking for $200 million in earmarks (but she did ask for $150,000 in travel for her friends in the fishing industry, I bet that jet could have saved them money there) . The McCain/Palin camp has known this is a lie since she said it, and has never come out and said differently, so why do they keep on lying?
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
14 Sep 08
...so why do they keep on lying? Probably for the same reason Obama's camp keeps on lying. They are both playing a ridiculous game of lets see who can tell the biggest whopper instead of telling the American people in plain language (not beating around the bush) how they stand on issues that are important to us.
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@medney1988 (560)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Palin asked if a book could be taken out of the library and when she was met with opposition she chose to fire the librarian which later reinstated because of public outrage.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
14 Sep 08
They got mine too and I was Democrat!
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
14 Sep 08
OOps sorry menat that comment for the response above.
My comment to you is that very obviously you did not read the snopes link I provided.
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@medney1988 (560)
• United States
14 Sep 08
and if you don't believe my statement go check out washingtonpost.com.
i'm a republican but Obama has my vote
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@Sarah1108 (310)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Okay so you shot down an Obama media lie! congrats! i think its good that you did your own fact checking or whatever you did to make sure he and his camp were telling the truth. you can ask anyone that knows me i dont care where the statement comes from i want to know the truth. even if it is a picture i do not believe it until i have researched it myself. I will say this if you are shooting down Obama's lies then start doing it to McCain. do you have to talk about the jet he said sarah palin sold on ebay and made a profit on? fact check that one!
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
14 Sep 08
I do not waste my time checking something that the whole world already knows!!!! McCain screwed up but Sara Palin did not!!! She said she "put" it on eBay not that she sold it. I heard her say that in her speech. The is discussion is about a lie aimed at Sarah Palin!! Guess you could not find anything on her so you had to bring up McCain. Ha ha ha
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
15 Sep 08
You are too funny!!! I have been a Democrat for longer than you have been old enough to vote. Sadly since Obama got the nomination I am intelligent enough to know this man is a danger to my country I would rather see a Republican in office who will protect us than Obama with his shady friends pulling his strings..
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@Sarah1108 (310)
• United States
14 Sep 08
Oh i could find a lot of things on her. And i was pointing out people talking about obama lying and saying that McCain has lied too thats all i was saying. maybe you should really read what i have to say and not only picking out what you think i said. I never once said that Sarah Palin said that so please read twice before you comment! it will help make you not look like such a typical republican!
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