Do you think it is about time to have divorce here?
By pehpot
@pehpot (4762)
Philippines
September 16, 2008 11:38am CST
I watched Harapan by Ted Failon and Korina Sanchez. The topic is about the legalization of divorce here in our country. Their guests consist of congressman that is Representative Lisa Masa (Gabriela), a housewife who is separated, a lawyer, a priest and a Baptist pastor.
In our setting there is legal separation and annulment. A legal separation is a case where in the court gave a blessing that you are separated (but you cannot marry again). Annulment is the case wherein the society says a marriage does not happen. It means that the wedding or the marriage is nullified. It is like pretending that there is marriage that took place (form Korina’s mouth)
The grounds to file for annulment is psychological incapacitated, the problem is, what if the couples just fall out of love?
As for the guest who has gone through separation, she had experienced violence from her husband but she stayed on until her patience has gone off. And because the culture says when you are married you have to follow on what ever your husband says.
The church is against the divorce bill. Why? Well in fact, the country that brought us the religion has divorce? And that the country where the Pope sits has divorce. We;;, the church says they are against divorce due to tea fact that they stand on the ability of being faithful to your commitment. Then why the church allows annulment? Because in annulment, the commitment does not happened, the marriage has been null.
As for the Baptist, they say that according to the bible, what God has joined together let no man take apart (I don’t remember the exact word) and that the violence, the arguments are just spices to make the marriage happier and tastier that is.
Now there is a divorce that is going on the congress. It said that the divorce bill have 5 grounds for filing:
That the couple has been separated for 5 years and reconciliation is not probable
That they are legally separated fro 2 years
Any grounds present in legal separation is considered (violence, abandonment)
Psychological incapacitated
Irreconcilable differences
They say that for this bill to be passed it would really go a very long way.
The church is not up to it and for them it is better to pursue a bill that prevents people from separating, preparation before getting married
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[b]So what do you think guys? Is it time?
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16 responses
@tryxiness (4544)
• Philippines
16 Sep 08
Actually, I feel like annullment is a synonymous term with divorce. We do not use the term divorce here because we have so many issues with the idea of divorce, but then again, annullment in a way exhibits some characteristics of divorce.
@positiveminded1977 (7072)
• India
17 Sep 08
You mean you still don't have divorce? Whew!! What will you people do if you end up marrying a skunk? Live with it forever just because you think God has joined you? Gosh!! Thank God I don't live there. I am sorry, no offense meant; I am sure you live in a lovely country, but I got out of a bad marriage, and I consider divorce to be a life saver, and I can't imagine what would have happened to me if divorce was not legal. :)
Cheers and happy mylotting
@oiixdaii (1059)
• Philippines
17 Sep 08
If they will allow us to vote whether to allow divorce or not, I be voting for the legalization of divorce here in our country. Since there are a lot of couples here in our country that are already separated due to many reasons. I think if annulment is affordable, many of our countrymen will file for it. I too am separated for more than 3 years already and have been dreaming of filling for an annulment but I couldn't because of the cost. Being an illegally separated person is kinda hard because we couldn't move on. If we have divorce here in the Philippines, I think we have availed that now.
@andak2007 (3229)
• Philippines
17 Sep 08
yes i think its time, i was never able to watch the show..sayang i could have learned many things.
yes for the bill to be passed it will have to go under long process but i hope the process will start in order for it to have developments..don't you think?
and why is the church so against it just like the reproduction bill...their arguments and their stands are not applicable anymore in this philippines that we have now.
@mayettefacun1962 (15)
• United States
17 Sep 08
oh, come'on people,,, yes its about time ...thats good if the congress will pass that bill, whats the use of staying together if you dont love and resfect each other anymore.specially if you always have arguments,fighting and hurting each other.some people asked how about the children?..for god sake,, and how about you...are you going to suffer until you die?...phil. is very conservative country but now a days they must understand too.NO MORE MARTYRS NOW . THEY KILLED ALL OF THEM ALREADY.. WAKE UP PEOPLE...
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
16 Sep 08
Hi pehpot, Sometimes divorce appears to be necessary, so I would agree that it should be allowed in your country as well as all others. I think there are far too many divorces in some countries and far too many people marry before they are ready. Proper counselling could also save many marriages. Divorce is necessary where there is violence or there is no chance for reconciliation. Blessings.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
16 Sep 08
I don't know the answer, in this country, USA, I remember when only certain states
allowed divorce, most people went to Mexico to get one anyway. Now it is so easy to get one that it's abused. I was a child of divorce, when it was shamful to come from a broken family and it scared me for life. I have done everything I can to keep my marriage together and am not unhappy about it. If it were treated as a contract only, maybe that would make things easier, with no emotion, but I don't know how that could work. Anyway good luck with this.
@ganda8831 (816)
• Philippines
19 Sep 08
I think it's about time we have divorce in this country. The principle is quite the same as that of annullment. I just dont see why congress and the church is against it. But of course it should be a last option. Married couples should still do their best to save the marriage, not just divorce each other right away. If you're a battered wife, by all means divorce your husband. Annullment is way too expensive. So for me it's time to take a look at divorce.
@ehlsie (730)
• Philippines
16 Sep 08
i think for me i's about time to have a divorce here in our philippines...it is also for the sake of both parties...The husband and wife...They have a right to be happy and be with someone who will make them happy. But it has to need to be given to the right couple to have a divorce...They should undergo series of investigations and series of couselling for the sake of the children ofcourse...
Happy mylotters!
@belk89 (1103)
• Philippines
19 Sep 08
Personally i dont want divorce to be legalized in the phils. If that happens we wont be different to the western people who always file for a divorce everytime something is going wrong in the relationship. I always value family and i always believe in the sacredness of marriage. Besides we already have annullment in the phils. I just dont want us to lose that culture that made me proud of being a filipino.
We have a strong family ties and i am afraid if divorce will be legalized everything will be change. I have seen a high percentage of divorce in the US alone and i didnt like it at all. I just hope in our country no congressman will support this bill. I totally dont think it is a way out to the problem of every couple.
@dylan_akil (89)
• Philippines
19 Sep 08
yes I think it is about time, as I have heard that there are only two countries that has no divorce and that is ours and some another place. It would be easy for couples who have their paths on different ways, and also a good closure on partners whose relationship has no good. They say that with this the children will be affected, but I think the kids will be more affected if they see their parents always arguing, I myself comes from a broken family and was very glad that my mom walk out of their relationship. I will be very glad if divorce is legalized in our country and if it is affordable and me and my siblings can afford it, we will tell our mom to file for it, so in that way our dad would have no longer connection with our mom. we don't him near her ever again. I mean our mom and you be the one who will shoulder it LOL!
@leicyn (96)
• Philippines
17 Sep 08
Yes i think we must have divorce in our society. Yes the bible says What God has joined together let no man take apart. Its true when you are the sons of God . Because that commandment is for the Son of God not for all creatures. What if both of them got fell out of love? What if one of them got third party. Children must not the reason for staying together. If you don'y have respect to each other and if they don't love each other, Why should still continue being together? Divorce is not a big deal, we must face it, All of us wants to have a successful marraige but what if it really doesn't work it out?What if we find out thatour partner got a think head and got an evil mind? Do u think u still want to be with that person.Every Couple wants their relationship work and be successful,but if doesn't work it out. Wy should stay? There is nothing wrong with Divorce as long as it made ina nice way and in a right way.
@prisioner (1)
• United States
24 Nov 08
Both of us got married in church & she divorced me in court without me having a say.
@warrior_777 (1392)
• Philippines
17 Sep 08
I don't think so..
Filipinos are more passionate and loving..
Divorce is not the answer..
We must think a hundred times first to approve divorce in the Philippines..
Who wants to see a lot of broken families in the Philippines..
I hope every couple in the world before going into marriage must know that marriage is a life time commitment..
They must be so sure with them self that he/she is willing to spend his/her life with the one chose to marry...
happy mylotting
@mommyfied (243)
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17 Sep 08
i am opposed to divorce because people tend to abuse that right of nullifying a marriage. the couple do not make an effort to work on their marriage. annulment is much harder to process here. the downside, a lot of people are separated and living with people other than their spouses. it's a tough decision really whether to legalize divorce here because if we do, we'll just end up collecting husbands or wives just like in other cultures.