Who created the God part 2
@vonkristoffer (833)
Philippines
September 16, 2008 7:33pm CST
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i stand with the Bible..
this question.. is really something.. but it is really illogical..
if the universe has a cause why God does not have a cause? and if God doesn't need a cause why the universe need a cause?
to answer:
Everything which has a beginning has a cause. (it refers to "efficient cause", the chief agent causing something to be made. ) so the universe has a beginning, therefore it has a cause.
God unlike the Universe had no beginning therefore doesn't need a cause.
since God is the creator of Time.. He is not limited to his creation. therefore He has no beginning... God is the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity (Isaiah 57:15). therefore doesn't need a cause.
if you don't believe in cause and effect.. All science and history would collapse..
and the universe cannot self-cause.. in this world nothing can create itself.. it is logically impossible.
to sum it all up.. God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn't need a cause.
4 responses
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
17 Sep 08
You're assuming right off the bat that the universe, or at least what came before the big bang, has a beginning. Something existed before the big bang, and that something probably had existed "forever". Of course time did not exist before the big bang, so "forever" is a fairly relative term, but I'd imagine you'd get the drift.
So there again we come back to the same problem. If God doesn't need a beginning, then why does the universe (or at least what came before the big bang), and vice versa.
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
17 Sep 08
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as far as we know.. Protons are positive charges.. so one law of electric charges is same charges repel each other.. since all the protons in the nucleus are positively charge, they should repel each other.. and scatter into space.. then how can they bind the atom?
@vonkristoffer (833)
• Philippines
17 Sep 08
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if the atom is the fundamental block of creation.. then what happen to its binding force?
@IsisGreen (554)
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17 Sep 08
I must admit it's been a while since I did physics, and I never got to this level, but I think I just about get what you're saying.
How are radioactive particles created? Is there no renewable way of this happening?
@IsisGreen (554)
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17 Sep 08
With the greatest respect I can't be bothered to read all this guys stuff. Especially when I have no idea if he will answer my question.
You however seem to be pretty good at engaging in debate.
How are radioactive particles created, and is there no renewable way in which this could happen?
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
17 Sep 08
The whole problem with this is that god did not create time, man did. With no one to measure it there is no time. Time, as we have created it is subjective, not finite.
@santuccie (3384)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, are you talking about the measurement of time, or time itself? Thanks.
@santuccie (3384)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Sorry, I read your post this morning, and when I commented hours later with this question, I somehow managed to completely overlook the fact that you'd answered it already. Never mind!
@freethinkingagent (2501)
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18 Sep 08
Yes Only things inside creation and inside the physical universe has physical laws, and cause and reaction. God is outside these things and the initiator of these things, therefor outside the physical laws of the universe
