No Child Left Behind
By Lee_Rites
@Lee_Rites (845)
United States
September 17, 2008 12:33am CST
I have read some information on the No child Left Behind Act that rules our schools today. I was interested what other parents feel about the impact it is having on our schools today.
3 responses
@liscampll (124)
• United States
19 Sep 08
I agree with a lot of the other posters. My son is in the third grade, FCAT year here in Florida. The focus of his education this year is passing the FCAT. Not a well rounded education like I had in third grade. His school has been an A rated school since it was built. It's a great school. But if a school performs poorly, their funding gets cut. It's like blackmail. Instead of leaving a child behind, it's leaving entire schools behind.
Then they offer vouchers so the parents can put a child in a different school instead of the failing one. Which, as a parent, I would do if my son was in a failing school. But then what? The failing school is never helped to improve. If everyone took their child out of the failing school, what would happen? Not sure.
I keep hearing that No Child Left Behind is a huge success because test scores are up. However, the kids that are graduating know less and less every year. They are "teaching the test" better and better.
I think if a school is having problems it needs to be examined. Maybe better teachers, books, computers or after school tutoring programs would be beneficial. Something other than just cutting it off.
Sorry for the rant. LOL. The NCLB act really bugs me!
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@vellibiz (297)
• United States
21 Sep 08
its dumb, there taking more money out of education so the can educate people in other countries.
no child left behind insures, that even if a student fails, hes not left behind"pass em anyway"
the answers are quites simple throw 3 billion in education like there doing all these failed buisnesses.
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@liscampll (124)
• United States
21 Sep 08
I agree Lee. I think the whole NCLB policy is ineffective and needs reworked.
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@Lee_Rites (845)
• United States
21 Sep 08
It does not make sense to cut a school's funding because they do poorly on the standardized tests. They are using the school's funding as an incentive for the school to do whatever is necessary for the students to do well on the tests. Then if they fail, they lose money. So, now the school has to do more with less?
At the point when we see that the school is failing and has little hope of recovering, we pull funds. Many qualified teachers will likely seek employment elsewhere. Parents who take an active role in their child's education will likely have their children transfered to a school with a better track record.
Now this school that was already struggling has less money and less qualified teachers. Where does leave the children who's parents, for whatever reason, have left them in this failing school? I am guessing that it leaves them behind.
@emarie (5442)
• United States
17 Sep 08
our state has that and the schools abide by it. its nothing serious, they just want you to work with your child. right now its not too bad for me. my kids are only in kindergarten and 1st grade. i like the school and as long as the teachers and the parents put in the effort to make sure the child learns the material and passes then i'm good.
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@Lee_Rites (845)
• United States
17 Sep 08
My children are all in elementary school as well. From what I have read, the NCLB act has a lot to do with accountability. The schools have to show continuous improvement on the standardized testing and they are trying to ensure that the teachers are more qualified.
From what you know of it, does that sound like the gist of it?
@emarie (5442)
• United States
18 Sep 08
thats something school 'should' be aiming for in the first place. we need to make sure the childrens education is better then average. i know reports from my kids school say they tested highest in the district. right now, for kindergarten they need to be able to do simple mathematics and be able to read simple books and know 100 words by sight, by 1st 300. my son got to 300 words by the end of first grade and since my 2nd son does the same thing, i was able to get him a little head start. the schools and the parents need to work together.
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@Lee_Rites (845)
• United States
21 Sep 08
The schools and parents need to work together. I don't believe anyone would argue against that point.
The comments of millionmalls did get me to thinking about children who don't have parents on their side. Foster children or children who for whatever reason do not have parents who are willing or capable to be advocates for their education.
NCLB gives parents more choices regarding their children's educations. Where does this leave a child without anyone to speak for them?
@Millionmalls (26)
• United States
17 Sep 08
I think it has put an immense BURDEN and TAXED local economies to meet the requirements, of this UNFUNDED demand. I do know that standardized test scores have gone up. I feel that for children with Special Needs, that has come at a greater loss, as they forego things like ART, MUSIC, SPORTS, AFTER SCHOOL ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS, Work-Experience, just so that they can spend added tedious hours preparing to take a test, that really hasn't resulted in their becoming better educated, more rounded, or any the wiser. These tests put needless stress upon students, especially those with writing or reading related learning disabilities. As a foster parent I've personally seen students who might have remained in school, opt to drop out, in hopes of getting a GED instead. Unfortunately, they often aren't able to do the writing section of that, either.
There are PLENTY of children being left behind, and more who are getting completely burned out with the endless drilling and pointless rote memorizations.
It makes them feel like they aren't bright enough, when they fail the tests-- and let us all take note, it is quite probable that Thomas Edison, gifted but learning disabled, would have failed the test too. That is what I let anyone who fails the test know. I don't have an issue with the test being given to the typical student who doesn't struggle to get by. I do have an issue with it being given to students who have issues that make them hate school in the first place, and hate school even more now that this nonsense is part of life.
@Millionmalls (26)
• United States
18 Sep 08
I agree with you that it should be utilized very differently. For example in MA, where I live, funding is tied into the standardized test scores. As is often the case wealthier communities tend to have "better educated" students. Why? Not because of anything INHERENTLY superior (much as the "haves" might like to believe) no it is because their lives are not bogged down by the every day STRESS that students in more economically challenged districts live with all the time. If a teenager knows they must work to help pay bills, buy their own clothes, and so forth, their FULL FOCUS isn't going to be on getting their homework done. Nor, should it be, there are all sorts of educations to be had, much is learned out of school, but THAT never gets measured, or credited. For instance, I doubt that a sheltered privileged teen could survive a week in some of the neighborhoods my foster sons grew up in, that requires a certain sort of knowledge too. And unfortunately if your energy must go to your basic survival, school tends to get short changed. It has long been that way, I don't see how "short-changing" the districts in the more challenged neighborhoods is going to help change that. To me it is just another blame game. First we say that if students aren't passing the MCAS test, their school districts aren't doing their job-- THEN we punish the child by denying THEM their diploma. Really what is going on is that we have completely isolated and disenfranchised areas and this is just a way of cutting their education budgets. Wow, that is such a sensible policy, NOT.
Properly used MCAS testing would be nothing more than a tool, it should not be the FOCUS of anyone's education to pass a test, that pretty much takes the joy of learning away. My teenagers get stressed out by these tests and so does the school district.
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@Lee_Rites (845)
• United States
18 Sep 08
Thank you for your comments. You bring up some really good points. Especially regarding children with learning disabilities or "special needs". I believe there are many benefits for most children with the NCLB act, such as the test scores rising, I don't see how it can benefit all children.
I think for the system to truly leave no child behind, they should be using the standardized testing more as a means of finding the children's strengths and fostering them.