Scholarship Down
By SaintAnne
@SaintAnne (5453)
United States
September 21, 2008 3:52pm CST
I deserved and was fortunate to obtain scholarship money when I went to college. Now, the local newspaper is reporting that that scholarship program is currently suspended. After 6 decades of providing $76 million to $112,000 students, they are currently no longer accepting scholarship applications for the 2008-2009 school year unless things turn around and the banks find a solution to their financial woes.
I feel bad for those students who worked hard and truly deserved these scholarships but now have to find other avenues. In my experience, the money helped out with tuition and books. And it made my schedule less stressful as I didn't have to work a full-time job while going to school. I really do hope things turn around.
Did you ever rely on scholarships while in school? As always, your thoughts on this issue are appreciated.
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@mands61123 (2098)
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22 Sep 08
They stopped grants (similar to scholarship) when i started uni the people in the years above still got them but they basically phased it out. We were offered loans which paid for your course fees and ocassionally leaving a small amount over for books/stationary if your course fees weren't to expensive. The arrangement was that this loan was then paid back directly out of your wages as soon as you started earning over 10,000 but you still pay interest on the amount borrowed. So realistically you still needed a job for everything else bills, books, travel expenses etc. I worked an average of 30 hours a week dependent on classes (it sometimes dropped/increased) as well as full time uni in preston. It took me approx an hour to get there every morning and by the time classes finished the trains were very irregular so i ended up stranded on the platform most nights until a train decided to run. I finished in 2003 and in 2007 i still owed 10,000 and what i had paid only paid off that year only covered the interest plus 10.00 of the oustanding amount. My mum was absolutely horrified i was paying the maximum amount for some time but had to stop because it was similar amount to my tax and i just couldn't afford it so i lowered my payments. Im not in debt with credit cards or anything else so this is the only thing i have to worry about but if i'm honest i don't think i would do it again for what it has cost me verses the benefits. I would have gone straight into a job from college, possibly done night school or a learn on the job type course. There i go waffling again so to get to the point i really do feel for some of the poorer families who are going to stuggle to afford it now, or maybe even loose out on going because of it. I do think if they have real talent, dedication and determination they will make it through and may even find that they achieved more or are in a better situation than if they had, had the scholarship. I wish them all the best as it's already hard and now it's just got harder.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
22 Sep 08
That is what they're trying to do now, phase it out if the funding never comes through. The current scholars will still be okay until they graduate but current high school seniors won't be able to apply for now. Over here, you start paying your loan six months after graduating unless you get a deferment (if you joined Peacecorps, the military)until you've finished your stint.
Working and going to school at the same time could be hard and very draining but you made it through, mands. I'm sorry to hear about the nights you were stranded at the train platform. I could only imagine how frustrating it was to not be able to go home right away which is what I would want if I had a full day at school and work.
Thanks for sharing!
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@mands61123 (2098)
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22 Sep 08
Thanks hun it was hard very hard and very draining i definately realised what i was capable of and how strong i am. The last year was very hard i averaged about 3 hours of sleep a night which ended up taking it's toll and making me ill not something i would want to go through again but i'm proud i came through it and being the first in my family to get a degree and seeing my mums face light up made it almost worth it. The train thing was frustrating when i had places to be but i adapted made friends with the coffee shop owner on the platform and used to do my homework/coursework while i was waiting. I think it was more frustrating trying to get there if i'm honest they were just as poor going to preston as coming from it.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
22 Sep 08
Well, I am sure your mom and family were/are very proud of you when you graduated. I'm glad to know you're one of those people who make lemonade out of lemons... you know, you created friendships out of a frustrating experience. Take care, mands and I hope you're getting more than 3 hours of sleep a day now.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
24 Sep 08
I never obtained a scholarship but my sister did. But here scholarship is more of an honour than the monetary benefit. May be it helps for the very poor students but no denial it’s really meager. In our country in govt. institutions needs a major revamp when comes to providing scholarships to the deserving students.
It’s sad when such an important thing gets un noticed and suspended. I hope this gets sorted out soon and the students get a fair chance to concentrate on studies.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
24 Sep 08
I agree with you, mimpi. It's sad when something like this gets unnoticed and suspended. For students who are struggling financially, scholarships really help.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
22 Sep 08
There are so many casualties of global market influences that many of us never even consider; and this is one of them. It is a sad situation when you consider how many lives they would have changed and how many talented people they have assisted to achieve things that would have probably been unachievable without them. I never received any scholarships myself, no, but I did go to school with a number of students that HAD received them and they were so grateful for the opportunities it gave them in life. Let's hope that the banks recognize all this scholarship program have achieved over all of these years and do everything they can to help them weather the storm.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
23 Sep 08
Here's hoping with you, James72. I was very grateful for this scholarship. I don't know what the bank is going to do now but I think it's decisions right now are based more on what is good for the bank and its survival. Thanks for responding!
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@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
22 Sep 08
[i]HI Anne,
I got a scholarship when I was in Junior COllege already...It helps my family a lot since it was a full scholarship per semester, tuition and miscellaneous...I haven't tried working also during those time except one Summer when I had few subjects to enrolled!
My Dad was working hard for us to be a full time student!
ANyway, this news is very sad, hopefully, there will be individual who are willing to have a program and share their blessings with these deserving students![/i]
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@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
23 Sep 08
That is a good news Anne, I hope a lot of rich people also will start a program like this, in that way, we can uplift the life of other people by giving them free education...I really want to have that type of mission in my life to repay what I have enjoyed before, hopefully, I will to fulfill such dream!
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
22 Sep 08
Hello checapricorn. I'm sure you helped your family out with that scholarship. And it seems like you're also very grateful for all the hard work your dad went through to help put you through school.
The college is now making a statement that they are going to find other ways to make sure that they will be able to help students who need financial help.
Thanks for sharing!
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
23 Sep 08
I hope you get to fulfill your very noble mission, checapricorn.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
22 Sep 08
The only scholarship I ever got was awarded and then the university said, on some technicality that I could not use it. Something about having to many credits. The same thing happened to my husband. It took two years to get them to acknowledge they made a mistake and then 1) we had already graduated, and 2) they claimed they could not fix their mistake after that length of time. I would love to have had help but got through by working more jobs and unfortunately having to take longer to finish.
I've known others who got financial aid even though their parents were doctors and lawyers and making lots of money, and those students bragged about lying on their financial aid forms. My personal view is that all of the job s in a university should be filled by students, and if they do not have the job skills, the universities should teach them. Also to even the playing field, I think all students should be required to work some kind of job while taking classes.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
22 Sep 08
No, the university never sent any letter. We got the award letters from the scholarship donors, but then after filing the correct paperwork we would go to collect our checks and they would not be there so we would put in an inquiry which the university ignored and the next month we would go again and it would still not be there and we would put through the paperwork again and so on for two years until the time ran out. All I can suppose is the donors got the tax write off and the university kept the money. What is new?
At my school I knew of two people who worked for close to two years on what is called soft money, that is funding that is not automatically renewed at the end of each year, and they never collected a single paycheck between the two of them and lost their home because they couldn't pay the mortgage. The university gave them free counseling to deal with their loss! I don't know if they every got paid, as I left before the matter was resolved. What their shrink and I couldn't understand was why they kept coming to work!
But when I first started working there they lost my check 4 months in a row, and I had to resubmit all my hiring paperwork three times, but I finally got all the checks at once in the 5th month. I had to take another job and work nights to keep up with the mortgage payments.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
23 Sep 08
Oh my goodness, drannhh. The whole inquiry process, going back every month, was probably very frustrating. I hope the University you went to have gotten its act together by now so other students don't have to go through what you and your husband went through.
I don't know why those two people you know kept coming back to working where they never really got paid. It was "so nice" of the University to provide them with free counseling after they lost their house but then these people you know also had the responsibility to make sure that their paperwork and everything else were taken care of. And then again, from what you've revealed about your University, it seems like there's a lot of suspicious stuff going on there.
Take care, drannhh.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
22 Sep 08
I am sorry to hear that both you and your husband were not able to get some help from scholarships even though you both deserved it. So the university sent you guys a letter after you've graduated about their mistake and that they could no longer fix it? Or did you have to contact them?
In my University, there were a lot of working students there but my part-time job was outside school and then I had my unpaid internship too.
Thanks drannhh.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
22 Sep 08
I got some book money, but I also didn't attend the university in a country where you have to pay tuition. The rest (like rent, food, etc) was paid through jobs I took on. My husband financed part of his education with scholarships though.
Anyhow, pretty much all scholarship funds have taken a hit due to the current economic and financial crisis. Most of those funds were and probably still are heavily invested in the stock market. That one took a hit. Then donations to the funds are down. Everybody is trying to save money where they can. Most scholarship funds reduced the amount of money they pay or how many students they will finance. But there are more students than ever looking for such money to finance their education.
It's really sad, how this trickle down effect is hurting all of us.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
23 Sep 08
In Germany you don't have to pay tuition to attend a public university, at least not at the time I went to school there. You have to pay a small registration fee each semester, which at the time was under $100. I know they have changed it to that you have to pay some sort of tuition now, if you study for longer than a set amount of semesters. And I think they do want, or already have introduced a small tuition amount, nothing like her though. I have been gone for 12 years and not kept up with everything. But no, I did not pay tuition, just for study material, rent, and other living expenses.
Keep in mind Germany does have a much higher tax rate than we enjoy here in the US. And while I did enjoy a tuition free ride, I also had to put up with overcrowded auditoriums with people sitting on the stairs and the lecture being simulcast into two other equally filled auditoriums. I hardly knew any of my professors other than from the lecture. Except for one or two, none of them ever knew me even in passing.
I also didn't have to pay tuition here in the US, when I came here to get a second graduate degree. I was hired as an assistant by the department and got a tuition waiver as part of my pay.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
23 Sep 08
So it was more of a universal college education back then in Germany. Even with the overcrowding and the not knowing the professors, would you recommend someone else to have that kind of education?
Thank you for being patient with me and my questions, jonesy. I just find this very interesting.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
23 Sep 08
So you didn't have to pay tuition, jonesy123? I'm a little confused with your first statement.
It's always easy to not worry about the economy when one isn't struggling at all but it's reached a level where we have to. I was really shocked and saddened when I saw that headline even though I don't have anything to do with the program anymore. The dividends that funded the scholarship trust was suspended by the bank because it faced losses due to bad loans.
Take care, jonesy.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
22 Sep 08
Wow!! I have not heard this one yet. But that is a shame for sure, and one thing that if they do not consider how it is going to Hurt everyone instead of help we are going to see things continue to get a lot worse instead of better. Personally I always thought a College education was to help people be able to get better jobs, and help to stimulate the economy some, and now this.
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
23 Sep 08
There is that cycle going on with education and the economy. Right now, the college is trying to reassure the students and the community that there are still a lot of financial aid options for those who will not be able to apply for these scholarships.
Thanks KrauseHome.
@angel_of_charm (4134)
• Philippines
22 Sep 08
i feel sorry for these students who really need this scholarship...i was a scholar once myself and being one is not so easy as a lot of expectations may come..had to maintain grades and had to join some activities at school...it was difficult but worth it and its all with hard work..i hope they find ways to carry on with the scholarship for those recurring scholars...
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@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
22 Sep 08
I hope that they get the scholarships that they deserved too, angel_of_charm. It is hard being a scholar, we do have to maintain our grades and also be active in other extracurricular activities. But like you said, with hard work, we made it through.
@SaintAnne (5453)
• United States
23 Sep 08
Hello NrgDfenZ. Congratulations on your scholarship! It's good to know that everything is working out for you. Keep it up! Thanks for responding!