The Iraq war - more information comes out day by day
By evanslf
@evanslf (484)
September 25, 2008 4:42am CST
The reporter Ron Suskind has a new book out in which he recounts how, in the runup to the Iraq war, British intelligence secured unique access to Saddam Hussein's head of intelligence, Tahir Jalil Habbush.
Habbush told them what turned out subsequently to be the truth: that Saddam had ceased his programme of weapons of mass destruction, but would not admit to it, because he was obsessed with keeping regional enemies such as Iran in a state of fear and uncertainty. This version was backed up by Saddam's foreign minister, to whom French intelligence had originally secured access.
Suskind says that Bush and Cheney ignored both of these reports, preferring what turned out to be the fabrications of a German intelligence source codenamed Curveball. Now I understand that this basic story is not in doubt (though comments demonstrating that it is in doubt would be welcome), even though Suskind's reporting has been questioned in the past.
It has been commented that Bush made facts fit around the policy, ie that Bush was determined to go to war and cherrypicked the evidence that suited his case whilst discarding evidence that was not convenient. A number of people have said, in view of this, that Bush should be prosecuted for war crimes whilst others have said, on what evidence?
Now that this information has come out, what do you think about it? Is it true or not? If not, why not, how it this information incorrect or disproved? If true, what are the implications of it in terms of how Bush justified his war against Iraq?
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@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
24 Nov 08
I thought the known things at the time were sufficient even without this, so much so that I joined the loud chorus of dissent against the war before it even started. Even the UN weapons inspector was saying, there are no WMDs. There was so much evidence around that the war could only have gone ahead for hidden agendas. What disappointed but didn't surprise me was that my onw government were so keen to floow Bush (but then our Prime Minister did actually state that he saw himself as one of Bush's deputy sheriffs, the poncy little nitwit), and even more disappointed and shocked that Tony Blair swallowed it all. Oh well, but at least I don't have to claim hindsight, it was foresight all the way.
Lash
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
26 Nov 08
I am not very surprised. I never believed that there were such weapons and I was furious when they invaded the country to find these weapons that clearly did not exist. At the time I felt that they had manufactured the so called evidence just to give them a reason to invade.
This is so typical of America. They will use any lie or fabrication to justify their attacks on places. They wanted to invade and they just made it up as they went along. The trouble is that the Australian government swallowed it and our troops went as well and I felt that we had no place being there.
@jend80 (2071)
• United Kingdom
25 Sep 08
well that fits with various reports and claims against the war already out there so I wouldn't be surprised it it turned out to be completely true. There was a report on the BBC website (from early 2003 at least - not sure if it was pre the Iraq war) claiming that Bush wanted to attack Iraq straight after 9/11 and Tony Blair had to remind him that Afghanstan should be his target.
- found the link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2915149.stm