No peace for Israel!

I started finding out just how bad conditons are over there and how bad Israel has been behaving when I saw a BBC news broadcast and could not believe what I was seeing because it was so different from what I had been hearing here in the US. I then started checking things out and disregarded anything from "I love Israel" and "I hate Israel" sites. They are just too biased to get to the truth. But, there is a lot of other information out there and it is well documented. If you want a good well documented book on this subject - go to your library and check out "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid by Jimmy Carter". Since he was our President, he has been deeply involved in trying to broker peace talks in this region. When this book came out a few months after I found out PART of what was going on over there, I was very happy that one of our own officials had been willing to try to bring attention to this problem and rip the blinders off the public's eyes. Also, there is nothing that can be done about nuclear weapons once they are in the hands of fanatics. If you push them too far, they will use them even if they die in the process. They should never have been allowed to have this technology; but, now that they have it, we all have to be careful. That is one of the reasons we have come out publicly against Iran developing even nuclear power; because, if Israel really feels threatened they WILL and HAVE gone outside of their borders and attacked other countries.

thanks Speakeasy! I'm gonna put this book on my Christmas wish list I am not much a book reader, but one or two I wouldn't mind

there's a website that will answer a lot of your questions http://holywar.org the graphics are a bit extremem but well it's better than nothing...

The issue with the settlers first came to my attention a couple of years ago when I saw a report by the BBC on the issue; and, I have been keeping an eye on it since then. While it is not the only issue; it is the primary sticking point in the peace talks every time. Israel signed treaties about this very subject several times and they have NEVER followed through. Israel also claimed that they had paid the Palestinian owners of the the land that the Israeli GOVERNMENT seized for settlements even though the owners kept claiming they did NOT receive any compensation. Official Israeli government documents DID come to light about a year ago that PROVED that Israel NEVER paid for almost 40% of the land the government seized and settled. None of the land that these so-called settlers have "settled" has been paid for. If they want peace, they need to put some serious effort into this area. If they don't want peace, they should stop lying about it; and, we should stop supporting them.

I will be speaking with a friend who lives in Israel tomorrow. Clearly there is a lot of smoke around the subject. Thanks for the BR

There are a lot of good people in Israel and there are also some bad apples - just like any other country. You are lucky that you have a friend you can contact there; but, please remember they may be biased - just like we are about our own country. That is why I try to read articles about this area that come from non-jewish and non-muslim sources - they are less likely to be biased either way.

And, that is what I am trying to point out to the gullible Americans who keep supporting this country and sending it money and weapons. They are as bad as our own politicians who say one thing and do the opposite. It is time for us to wake up and accept that they have been feeding us a bunch of lies about wanting peace.

Why is America supporting Israel and selling them weapons? If you want to know the truth - it is because America is being blackmailed by Israel. You see, as long as we supply Israel with arms and funds; they have agreed NOT to use nuclear weapons in "preemptive strikes" against countries they feel are threats to them. Israel DOES have nuclear weapons and the capability of delivering those weapons to the neighboring countries. We do not dare to take the chance that they may be bluffing; because, they have already shown that they have no problem with killing civilian populations. That is why we make up "fairy tales" for our own citizens and TRY to make Israel look like the good guys (and it is getting harder and harder to pull it off every day). I was not aware of this until fairly recently when I was complaining to a person I know about why we keep letting them get away with the things they are doing and why do we keep supporting them. That is what I was told. IS it the literal truth; have they actually come out and said that? I do not know. But, a little research has shown that they do have nuclear capability and the necessary delivery systems. They, very publicly, pulled off a preemptive strike against a "possible" nuclear power plant in a neighboring country because they thought it MIGHT become a threat to them. Their indiscriminate use of cluster bombs in civilian areas shows their disregard for civilian lives. Make up your own mind - the facts do seem to fit; but, I am not at a high enough level to know if this is or is not a fact or just a theory. I personally do not like it and am ashamed of it; BUT, do we really dare risk Israel dropping nuclear weapons in the Muslim countries that surround them? Are we ready to face the type of global holocaust that would set off?

let america only stop supporting isreal and whatever weapons they have they will be cleared from the map if america stopped suppliny this terroristic country!

i agree,once usa stop support israel disapear. or once arabs governments united,israel disapear too

I checked out the site and it is a bit too extreme for me. Let me clarify something - I am not anti-semetic or anti-jewish. I have both friends and relatives who are jewish (and several other nationalities). What I am is - I am against what is currently going on in Israel. They claim they want peace; but their actions do not support that claim. They are permitting and looking the other way at civil disobediance and actual attacks on their own police and soldiers by their own people. At the same time they are overreacting wtih excessive force when others confront and retailate against these criminal elements of their society. That is what I am against.