Was McCain Serious?
By Lee_Rites
@Lee_Rites (845)
United States
September 28, 2008 2:54pm CST
McCain showed up for the debate. Would anyone have voted for him if he didn't? Was he actually serious when he said he was going to put his campaign on hold?
I have heard many people say that he has to do the job he is being paid to do. That he must put the campaign on hold to do his duties as a senator. He can't do two things at one time? We have a presidential candidate that places no value on running for president?
That whole thing rubbed me the wrong way. Does he really think that we can not see through this?
Now, I agree that he is a senator and needs to do the job he is being paid to do. But acting as if no other presidential candidate before him has had to do other things while running for president is a bit ridiculous.
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6 responses
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Well I see it quite differently. First of all he asked to postpone the debates and Obama was against this. Secondly, McCain made it quite clear at the republican convention when he said he would rather "RISK" losing an election than to put his country at risk, also this further demonstrates that he would put his country FIRST rather gain more popularity.
See I look at how people act in situations, or react. I see this as a sign of integrity. And all along McCain has been wanting to debate with Obama....it was Obama who was aginst this throughout the campaign up until the presedential debate on CNN. Mccain on several occasions (most recently a few weeks ago on the View) stated he asked Obama to debate with him. So it did not surprise me that at the last minute he showed up.
This is not a high school election here...and yes I am quite sure that McCain can do more than one thing at a time...and his asking for a postponement had no effect on my vote. Because he only solidifed what he had originally said.
And I think you are a bit overzealous in saying he "places no value on running for president". I think he has demonstrated his qualifications well.
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@Lee_Rites (845)
• United States
28 Sep 08
If McCain is REALLY the best candidate for president, Don't you think he is putting his country at risk by putting off the campaign that is intended to get him elected? Not to down play the issues this country is having at the moment, but seriously, what will be more hurtful? McCain not focusing all of his attention on his duties as senator or the public voting without being well informed?
There are a lot of people right now who are not sure who they will vote for. There are many basing their decisions on superficial details. Debates are where we really get to see what these guys are about. If elected, McCain has plenty of opportunity to affect the issues this country is facing.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Then Obama should answer to this as well. As I have previously mentioned McCain has wanted to go before the public with Obama well before the presedential elections were set. Throughout the campaign trail....but Obama for some Fishy reason ignored these requests.....I wonder why.
Plus, the people who say they care about what they stand for have every opportunity to check out these candidates actions by reading the bills and various other things through reputable sites online....not just the biased ones.
This is the informational technological age???? Use it. So for people who do not put the effort in sucks to be them...plus you want to look up this stuff before hand so you know if they are full of crap.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Sep 08
No I don't agree that he is putting the country at risk by postponing the debates. The financial situation is immediate and urgent, and the debates COULD be rescheduled. As noted by taface412, McCain has repeatedly attempted to get Obama to debate and also to participate in town hall meetings with him, and Obama has repeatedly refused. When Obama finally relented and scheduled these debates, he did so at the last minute, leaving little option for further debates later on. No one comments much about that. No one calls Obama on his refusal to debate sooner or do the town hall meetings. But they dream up all kinds of "reasons" why McCain, a senior member of the Senate, with a history for being able to bring both sides together in compromise might want to negotiate for the economical crisis to be averted rather than debate, when the debate could be rescheduled.
Also, remember that McCain asked Obama to not just reschedule the debate but to also attend the meetings in Washington with him, instead.
McCain will go against anyone, state whatever he believes and do what he feels is necessary to protect our country, including lose the election. He has demonstrated this repeatedly. Tho I do believe that the country is in grave danger if he loses the election, and so I hope he doesn't do anything that causes that loss, I have to stand with his integrity. He never ever lets his integrity slip for even a second. If he makes a mistake, you can be sure it is a MISTAKE, based on the info he was given at the time, and never something he did out os a need for power or adoration or any other reason that some people want to be President.
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@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
29 Sep 08
I will answer the first question. Yes there are many who would vote for him if he did or didn't show up.
@Lee_Rites (845)
• United States
30 Sep 08
After reading many of these responses, I would have to agree. Thanks for your response.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I don't think you are looking at it the right way. It's not that he can't do two things at once -- that is the hogwash that his detractors put out and it makes very little sense. His point was that there was much bickering in Washington and nothing was happening on saving our economy. McCain really DOES have a history of putting compromise and positive outcomes ahead of his own desires/efforts to become president. I believe he felt that negotiating thru the entire weekend was going to be needed, and he wanted to make sure he did not blow off that important issue for his campaign. I know some people say this was a stunt but if you look at McCain's record, it is normal and quite in keeping with his history. he has always had a tendency to step up in troubled times and try to pull both Dems and Republicans together.
In the end, since Obama would not join him -- he wanted Obama to be at the negotiations with him, not just cancel the debate -- and since they would not postpone the debate, along with the fact that Congress had finally started to settle into real negotiations, so it was OK to debate.
His performance during the debate shows absolutely that those who thought he was trying to get out of the debate because he wasn't "ready" were very, very wrong.
If you are against McCain, you will do whatever adjustment of the situation is necessary to see it in a bad light. But if you objectively stop and look at the facts and the history, you will easily see it is standard operating procedures for McCain to put what he wants (to win the Presidency) on hold for what he feels is a higher cause.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I totally agree with you. One commentator had said that some of McCain's bets speeches were ones he did not prep too much on....another good point when an emergency occurs who has time to prepp?
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
28 Sep 08
okay lee rites we agree on the "servant of the people" but all Government elected officials are servants to the people. And this American believes it is important not to look at that request for a postponment as a weakness.....
Obama did not honor the very issue you are dwelling on here and maybe that should be brought up with other people who support Obama. Because he never once stated why he would not meet with McCain before this debate.
I am not trying to play devils advocate it is just a counter to this question that should be thought of as well.
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@Lee_Rites (845)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I do appreciate your opinion but I think you are looking at it the wrong way.
The president is a servant to the people, no? So, to say that he is putting his desires on hold, to me shows that he may be looking at it the wrong way. Of course he wants to be president as well as Obama. However, it is not about him! It is not about his likes or desires. I feel that it is his duty to the people to put his best foot forward into his campaign.
This is why I feel it is a smoke screen. If it is not a smoke screen, then I feel his priorities may be a little off.
I feel that Obama and McCain should be putting their efforts into the campaign. They are competing to be the president of the United States of America. PLEASE tell me what is more important for the American people?
If he honestly thinks that his duties as senator are more important, than why would he not just stay a senator?
@mcat19 (1357)
• United States
28 Sep 08
It was a stunt. McCain wanted to postpone the debate so that in conflicted with the VP debate. That would have saved him some face. It is interesting how those who are in love with McCain will continue to make excuses for him and those that see him as he is will understand the "campaign on hold" thing as the political trick it actually was. It won't change anyone's mind.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
29 Sep 08
Obama has done this as well throughout the campaign trail. And no one will address this topic for discussion. I say what is fair to criticize for one is fair to criticize for all...and people who are "in love with" the opposing candidate fall short in recognizing he actually ignored McCain's request when McCain merely asked for a postponement.
But we all see what we want to see and hear what we want to hear.
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
29 Sep 08
I was proud of McCain for TRYING to put his country first by going to Washington. Of course, rescheduling the debate only worked if Obama agreed and he did not. I never thought much of that man, but I think even less of him after that decision and his, "if they need me, they can call me" comment. McCain and Obama are both being paid as Senators and they should perform those duties.
I was also quite disappointed at Obama's lack of disrespect at the debate. Not only did he smirk and look angry all the time (which makes me wonder if he'll treat foreign leaders that way if they disagree), but he also called McCain "John" (and "Tom" once!), while McCain called him Senator Obama. Definitely a lack of respect, and his attitude made me lose all respect for him.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Sep 08
Wow, did we watch the same debate? It seems hard to believe because what I saw was McCain refusing to even glance in Obama's direction, never mind look him in the eye, make jeering, glaring faces while Obama spoke and being generally condescending and totally disrespectful.
Annie
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
29 Sep 08
In case you didn't know or my post didn't seem clear, Obama was the one who said, "if they need me, they can call me." Of course, after the President came on and announced that Obama and McCain would be meeting with him, Obama had to go.
@debbie9 (11)
• United States
29 Sep 08
Well said kenzie!!!! McCain has the track record, the respect, and the desire to make this country better. US citizens need to read statistics and facts instead of listening to the stupid media. For example, there were more military personnel killed during President Clinton's service then there have been in President Bush's service. Also, Senator McCain was against the bill that was signed years ago that let these financial institutions loan to individuals that, in effect, do not actually qualify for the home loans they have received and/or loan more than the value of the home itself. Senator McCain had the insight to realize this was a major mistake and the financial institutions would be in trouble when all these loans started defaulting!
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@shoffman2000 (560)
• Alexandria, Virginia
29 Sep 08
The media does not get it the economic thing may totally implode and be worse than 1929 Think of the possibility of the equivalent of an economic hydrogen bomb hitting the world and taking us back the cave man days. Which was more important the debate or solution to totally economic failure Obama does not get it McCain may get it but he caved in Even if the bail out goes thru we may may not survive economically. Despite the additional economic bail out of the Detroit auto companies will go bye bye due to their lateness to develop hybrid cars. The only salvation to USA is the development of mixed use The is will produce jobs. If anyone needs a job badly check out snagajob.com
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@Lee_Rites (845)
• United States
29 Sep 08
You do make a good point. We have to pick our battles and maybe this is what McCain was doing?
Personally, I still believe that this was a tactic. I believe this because McCain and Palin seem to be full of tactics.