The Credit Meltdown - Whose fault? A simple explanation
@chameleonsdream (1230)
United States
September 29, 2008 11:12am CST
This may be one of the most cogent explanations of how the subprime crisis and mortgage backed securities came about - first, I promise you that there is no finger-pointing at EITHER party in this. It's not just bipartisan - it's non-political. It's a common-sense, human look at how pressure from world-wide investors, greed and naivete combined to bring about a crisis that is not just nationwide but world-wide. Not only that - it's not full of dry statistics and sentences you can't understand unless you've got a doctorate in economics. It's even entertaining. If you really want to understand how it all happened and why it had little to do with political policy at all.
http://thislife.org/extras/radio/355_transcript.pdf
(transcript of the radio show)
http://thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=1242
(main page for the episode of This American Life where you can download or listen to the show as it aired)
I don't care if anyone responds to this or not. I don't care if this sparks a discussion that gets answers. I just really think this is worth reading for anyone who wants to understand how the he11 banks could even consider lending money to people WITHOUT EVEN CHECKING TO FIND OUT IF THEY HAD A JOB.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
29 Sep 08
From the content of your post i would assume your sources support what I believe is the most plain and simple truth. The blame for the credit meltdown is shared by almost everyone in this country. The people for taking out loans they can't pay back, the banks for allowing them to take out the loans they can't pay back, the politicians for telling them to let people take out loans they can't pay back, the special interest groups for lobbying the politicians to do this, the incompetent boob who was supposed to oversee the idiotic loans, the president who appointed the moron, etc.
I could really go on for much longer but I think anyone reading gets the point.
Frankly, I think to some degree the government just gave people what they thought they wanted. The reason we have elected officials is because we as people should know that most people are morons and we try to elect smart people to keep said morons from ruining themselves and our country. Unfortunately, the government gave in to these morons and allowed greedy businesses to do stupid things in the hopes it would make everyone happy. It failed.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
29 Sep 08
If you want a REAL education about who is responsible for the ecomomic meltdown, watch this video. It is fast moving so be prepared to watch quickly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o
@chameleonsdream (1230)
• United States
29 Sep 08
I'll tell you what - you go listen to people who were IN the middle of it talking about where the pressure to lend that money was coming from. They were not being forced into it by government regulations. No one said to the guys repackaging mortgages 'if we don't make these loans, we'll be in trouble with the feds'. They said to them 'we've got investors screaming for more mortgage-backed securities - find more mortgages for me'. You don't get a REAL education from a partisan source with an axe to grind. You get more propaganda.
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@dreamhealer (812)
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30 Sep 08
There were many contributory causes to this credit meltdown, mainly connected to the housing bubble. In the UK we know about housing bubbles, big time. The oh so famous Margaret Thatcher was a big contributor to this when she initiated the sell off of 100,000s of council houses (owned by local government districts or councils) at discount prices, according to how long the tenants had lived in them.
I think that in recent years the story in the UK has been very similar to the US. Building Societies (S & L institutions) and Banks have been lending money on higher and higher multiples of people's incomes, making 125% mortgages (yes, no deposit and then some). These institutions have also been able to borrow short-term (!) money from abroad to top-up their funds for lending (our Northern Rock bank was particularly affected by this - the one the government took over).
In London you would hear of say a bunch of four friends getting together to get a mortgage on a house to share together.
About the last straw to break the camel's back were buy-to-let mortgages, which has now done for our Bradford and Bingley.
Looking at history, booms and busts seem to be a fact of life. What seems to be becoming clear now, is that we're probably in for a MOTHER of a BUST!
@dreamhealer (812)
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11 Nov 08
Thanks for BR, chameleonsdream!
We're certainly living through interesting times!
@Wingedman (238)
• United States
30 Sep 08
The answer to why this is all happening is even simpler. The government interferred with market driven economics. If banks had not been encouraged(read that as threatened) into making loans to folks that could not afford them in an affirmative action style plan for folks with sub-par income and credit there woudl not have been as much bad paper floating around in the first place.
If the banks we left to their own devices they would have been making better loans percentage-wise so they would be more solvent and the securities that were backed by the mortgage assets would be solid loans that will actually be paid back rather than defaulted. Let the market contend with itself. Less interference more free market and all will be fine.