Bailout is NONSENSE and IRRESPONSIBLE!

United States
September 29, 2008 7:34pm CST
Yes, it is true. At least one extremely famous economist says the bailout is NONSENSE & IRRESPONSIBLE. You can read who said it and why along with others who say the same here. http://www.wsmv.com/news/17584894/detail.html I say that if internationally known economists and bankers removed from the big financial centers are not worried unless we do foot the bill for the bailout, then the heck with the bailout. Who needs it except the special interests who benefited from all this? What do you say?
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12 responses
• United States
30 Sep 08
Yes, it is. If it wasn't than surly these lol, scholors would have quickly and easily agreed today. I haven't seen much news about it, I can't stomach it. This entire thing is overwhelming... I see a tiny bit of good in that people are finely talking and taking an interest in politics and what's going on in/with our government. Now, if we can only see some responsible non violent actions.
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• United States
30 Sep 08
Surprisingly, people have been responsible and non violent. I have heard that letters to congressmen were running from between 9 against the bailout to 1 for all the way to 200 against to 1 for. Either way, a majority, a large majority are against the bailout. You are right about it being overwhelming. Someone estimated the bailout to be about $300,000 per taxpayer. Egads!
3 people like this
• United States
30 Sep 08
Wow, that went up. At lunch today we were thinking it was 30,000 per citizen, man woman and child. Now it looks as if our pets and goldfish will have to help pay. I thought all along that we should just let them fall and let the chips fall where they may. I have been struggling along alone for years. Raising my children with no child support, trying not to take taxpayers hard earned welfare. My gas has been off more than it's been on. I had only a can of corn once for me sndcain and my kids. I went 6 months without water at one home I lived in and a year at another. I can start a fire, cook on a wood stove and even a space heater if I have to and I'm an expert at dumpster diving and picking up antiques I find in the trash. I'll survive... But will the sickeningly rich people, that used us as stepping stones to the top? "The bigger they are, the harder they fall"
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• United States
30 Sep 08
If we bail them out, who will bail out the next big business that comes along after it? When will it end? We will be homeless and penniless and they will be getting pensions bigger in one day, than we could make in a year.
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• United States
30 Sep 08
Today I am so angry I could spit. I have been careful, not squandered my money and the government has caused me to lose 10% of my IRA account overnight because of their failure to come to some kind of agreement. That is not perhaps a lot to some people but to me it is a fortune and all I have except for my Social Security. So as far as I am concerned the political fat cats better get off their a$$es and do something to help the normal middle class American.
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• United States
30 Sep 08
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• United States
30 Sep 08
I say let the bank fail. I absolutely hate (and I rarely use that word) that our government is trying to con us into believing that we need to do this bail out to save our economy. One doesn't have anything to do with the other! Our country was in economic trouble long before these banks started failing. (You know, before the CEOs embezzled everything they could out of their companies...) I would even venture to say that our economic troubles are one of the contributing factors to the problems the banks are having. I mean, if people had jobs that afforded their lifestyles, their bills would be paid, right? So, let's look at the time-line of events. You have these banks writing tons of loans that the people should have been smart enough to say "hey I can't afford that". Then you have people losing their jobs. Then the housing market slips big time. Houses go into foreclosure. Banks lose money. (Somewhere in there the CEOs thought it would be a good idea to seriously pad their personal bank accounts.) Banks now in trouble. Hum, looking at that I don't see how helping the banks is going to help our economy. Isn't that backwards? Wouldn't helping the middle class and home owners make more sense? Let's play this one out, shall we? Government helps the middle class and people in trouble because of predatory lending. They, in turn, pay their mortgages, the banks make money instead of losing it. Now THAT seems to make sense...and even helps our economy in general. But no. The government wants to bail out the banks. Then they insult our intelligence by repeating, thousands of times, that we MUST help the banks because it will help our economy. Kind of like "Vote for Bush or the terrorists will win". Gotta catapult the propaganda. And the sheeple buy into hook, line, and sinker.
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• United States
30 Sep 08
That people fall for this stuff so often is why the politicians keep pulling this stuff on us. I'd bet if either McCain or Obama would come out and make a statement similar to yours, he'd win hands down. The problem is that neither candidate represents we the people, rather they both represent them, the special interests.
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@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
30 Sep 08
I agree with all the comments posted in response to yours, Wildcat. People weren't smart enought to say they couldn't afford those loans being thrown at them because they bought into a lie. They were told, "don't worry about it, the housing market is going nowhere but up, this is an investment". I didn't understand at first, but now I realize not everybody buys a house or thinks of a house as a family home. Someplace that they will raise their children and entertain their family and friends for years. It was an investment. When the real estate bubble burst and the houses were valued far below what they were worth, many people walked away. They realized they'd been lied to; their investment was worthless and they walked away. Not saying that is the case with every body. But it is with some. Yellowdog you are so right. We need to stop buying into the lie just because government officials keep shoving it down our throats. Big business and big government has no loyalty to anyone. They will throw the American people under the bus while they sit back and collect. I am terribly disappointed in both candidates that neither one has come out and said this bailout is a bad idea.
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@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
30 Sep 08
I agree. My gut instinct told me it was nonsense when I first heard it and now there are experts coming out and acknowledging this. Unlike me, they can explain why. Even those who are saying it is sooooooo necessary are acknowledging that it is not guaranteed to work. If it isn't guaranteed to work, why do we need it?
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• United States
30 Sep 08
I think the bailout is guaranteed. Guaranteed to make special interests rich at the expense of the rest of us.
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@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
30 Sep 08
I'm kind of split on this. But I don't think it should be a bailout for the guys who caused it - take them completely out of the mixture. I think they have decided to put the insurance clause in there. I think all the money should be only on loan, not a give away. I do worry that it might impact my children who own for homes. I have no idea who their loans are with. I know my daughter's has been sold a couple times because she has told me that. What makes me angry is all the money Congress has taken from Fannie Mae and Barney Frank. I think they all need to repay it and all the money the CEO's received should be returned! That would help repay the money right there! AND to top it all, most of them working on this proposal are recipients of that money!
• United States
30 Sep 08
Not only should the ones who caused it not get any money, I'll bet a few of them have committed criminal offenses and need to go to jail. Sure, regulations were loosened up, but it was never made the law that they could just give money away. It sure looks like that might have happened.
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@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
30 Sep 08
Do you think any of them will be investigated and jailed? I think they should go after the ones that refused to listen to McCain and others who warned against this earlier - that is was going to happen if something wasn't done. You can say they were part of the problem that this bailout has become necessary. We, the public, elect these public officials, and they set up there and do nothing. This has been about the most lame congress the past few years as any congress I've ever seen! All they want to do is take vacations and do nothing while they are in session. I'd love to see Nancy Pelosi removed out of her seat!
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@Jean25 (343)
• Philippines
30 Sep 08
I just hope that solution will probably solve the financial crisis. but from my perspective it is only temporary as other banks started to close down.what would happen to other countries if US economy falls down it will affect the world.
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• United States
30 Sep 08
Sure, it would affect the world, but the USA needs to get over itself. The rest of the world is becoming less and less interdependent with the USA everyday. If the USA sunk into the ocean tommorrow, the world would quickly adapt and be fine.
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30 Sep 08
I agree with you, it is not right that the taxpayer has to bailout major company's because their greed has come back to haunt them.
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• United States
30 Sep 08
It is worse than 'not right'. It is also stupid. This is the key to a vibrant economy. Screw up, go broke. Financial survival of the fittest is what keeps the economy strong, America free, our women good looking, our men strong, and the US DOLLAR worth owning. So, my fellow Americans, if you want an opportunity to have a good looking or strong spouse, oppose the bailout!
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
1 Oct 08
I agree with you. The only people this benefits is the companies we are bailing out. Tax payers will get nothing but a huge bill. Lets go back to personal responsibility. I still have to pay my mortgage and now I have to pay some stuffed suits 20 million dollar bonuses. Makes a person not want to pay taxes.
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• United States
1 Oct 08
Hmmm... of course, I'm still paying my taxes, but yes, it sure does make me understand the tax protestors better.
@uath13 (8192)
• United States
1 Oct 08
Yea, let these corrupt CEOs line their pockets while their companies crumble in debt & we'll be happy to bail them out. Who's going to bail us out when their companies are foreclosing on our homes after we get laid off? These people should be looked at for criminal charges & their assets seized. Don't make us flip the bill.
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• United States
1 Oct 08
Finally, someone is looking into bringing charges. It just made the news today.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
1 Oct 08
I agree, the bailout is a bad idea. Not only is it socialism, it is also an unnecessary burden on taxpayers because of the irresponsible lending practices that were mandated by the government in the first place. This is a result of our habit of living beyond our means on credit, and we need to return to pay as you go... instead of borrowing money to get things you don't need or can't otherwise afford in the first place. I see where we are once again bailing out one of the auto makers... this would be what, the 3rd or 4th time we have done that. That tells me that their business model is flawed, and it should not be our responsibility to subsidize them...or anyone else.
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• United States
1 Oct 08
As more non government experts come forward to say this is not necessary and will make the problem worse, maybe the odds of it passing will decrease. We can hope!
@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
30 Sep 08
Funny (??) thing is that I saw that some who didn't vote yes wanted to but were afraid because they're up for reelection. I think they were all surprised that the American public started calling and emailing and faxing them. They think we're a bunch of dummies and they can pull anything on us and we won't care. This time, they were wrong.
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• United States
30 Sep 08
Yes, and I think we have the internet and sites like myLot to thank for being able to organize and deciminate information quickly. The right to keep and bear computers on the internet has become as important as the 2d admendment. Maybe we can get a 2.5 admendment to the constitution? "The right to keep and bear computers on the internet shall not be infringed."
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@cjgrooms (4456)
• United States
30 Sep 08
This is just my opinion....DON'T DO IT!!!!!! I think they should let the people (taxpayers) decide whether to reward the CEO's of these companies for running them into the ground. I just can't see us having to give our hard earned money while they are laughing all the way to the bank with their hundreds of thousands of dollars of bonus money! I try to teach my children that YOU pay the consequences for your actions and and the government is showing them that somebody else is responsible for bailing your butt out! And now their going to change the laws so that they can keep doing the same thing and it will look good on paper regardless of the reality of their actions! Maybe i am not a good American because I DO NOT WANT TO BAIL THE CROOKS OUT!!!!!!! I am disgusted with hearing that they are taking MY money to pay for the crooks that head these companies is for my own good! Yes maybe it would be difficult for the economy if they leave them to sink or swim but in the end i think it would teach these companies that they HAVE to take responsibility for their own actions or pay the price (and i don't mean pay it by raising OUR taxes).
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• United States
30 Sep 08
You'll be happy to know a grand jury has been enpaneled with the objective of seeing if some of these crooks can be put in jail. Check my discussions I've started for more info. I did start a thread on the subject. It does look as if some prosecuter is serious about sending some execs to prison.
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@cjgrooms (4456)
• United States
30 Sep 08
About darn time someone besides the tax payers pays for their crimes!