Home schooling vs public or private
By hdjohnson
@hdjohnson (2981)
United States
September 30, 2008 8:22pm CST
My wife and I decided to home school our children for several reasons:
1. The county where we live lost it's schooling accreditation.
2. We notice that our child learn a lot more in a smaller classroom setting (we learned this by visiting another church) both our oldest children couldn't wait to tell us what they learned in Sunday school that day. The church we visited had a smaller congregation from the church we are members of.
3. Schooling expenses are less.
We were concerned that we wouldn't be able to do it, but since I attended college for Math and I did well in my English classes in high school. My wife has a BA in biology and science. Plus she loves history. So we have the basic studies down to offer them a good balance between us both.
So how about you, have you ever considered homeschooling?
Are you presently homeschooling?
If so, what are your reasons?
Thanks for participating and responding openly.
2 people like this
16 responses
@mimico (3617)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
Well it's a good thing that both you and your wife are smart enough to teach your children. I think that's an excellent decision given your circumstances. The only reason I would choose to send my child to school is so that he or she will learn to socialize with other kids. Nevertheless, your children seems to be bright enough. And if they can attend Sunday school once in a while and be exposed to other kids their age, then everything should be fine. Good luck!!!
1 person likes this
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
1 Oct 08
I don't concern myself with the socialization skills, as I have 3 small ones each only a few years apart. So they get to socialize with other kids at church and other activities like our friends parties etc...
Our friends have their own children roughly their age as well. Thanks for your comments and for wishing us well.
@relundad (2310)
• United States
1 Oct 08
My son is now 9 and goes to private school. Prior to starting school I had a live in nanny that worked with him since he did not go to daycare. He attends Woodward Academy.
Public school was not a voluntary option for me, though I am a product of public schools and faired well. I just wasn't interested in my child having a "minimal" education. Which is also one of the reasons that I didn't want to home school. I didn't want his education to be limited to what I knew, even though I have a college degree. But I am not a teacher and not trained to teach. Over 80% of the teachers at his school hold a masters degree at minimum. I also don't like the teacher to student ratio in public schools.
Another reason for my choosing private school was the facts that I am both a single parent and business owner. The time required for home schooling is a lot less than the average school day it would mean that a large portion of the "school day" I would need to make other arrangements for my son, that just didn't coincide with my schedule.
1 person likes this
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
1 Oct 08
We were going to plan to send them to a private christian school that we knew the students were excelling very well in; They had to close down this year, so that is another concern of ours.
Thanks for sharing.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
Hmm.. Homeschooling is good given the circumstance,though yes, you'd have the capability of teaching them the subjects, I'd doubt they'd really see the whole school experience if you yourselves would be teaching them. I certainly have nothing to be against homeschooling, but remember that you are their parents, and there will always be a confusion of when the teacher ends and the parenting begins. Plus, they'd have no experience of how life is with other children.
Maybe for the meantime, you can homeschool them, but I think it would be best if you attended the church instead. There they can get the 'values' they need to go through life, after all, you'd never be always with them when they grow up. Sooner or later they'd need the values and skills they could acquire from adjusting to crowds and interacting to different children and attitudes.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
2 Oct 08
Well, first and foremost, this is a discussion site and when opening a topic one must understand that there will be reactions. Similarly, I am not angered at the responses and I actually take it as a full opinion of another.
Yes, you were not asking for a decision, but you were asking for an opinion about homeschooling and I certainly expressed my views upon it. I'm in no way against homeschooling, as I said in my first response, but I just thought (in my OWN opinion) that it lacks something more a child could experience in his/her life.
I'm quite puzzled by the defense of Irish because as I recall, I never intended to intervene, I just expressed my thoughts.
Irish - You misunderstood what I meant about the 'confusion..', I meant the amount of closeness a child has with his/her parents could confuse him/her as to the discipline of a teacher. If you act as both (all the time) sooner or later the child would confuse the 'time' for studying and the 'time' for playing. You know how kids are, we always like to have fun with them, so it takes quite longer for us to settle them into the 'learning' time.
Plus, yes, you may find it helpful to be exposing your kid with others, but remember you will not always be by his/her side. With you with him/her, you are creating a comfort zone, thus enables himself/herself to have a feeling of security because 'mommy' will always be there beside him/her like she is now. But what happens when you're no longer there?
A school is a venue when your kid starts to be independent. That's why the first thing a University requires is that a child could stand not seeing his/her mother and having the courage to walk all on his own to his class. That's a value you won't give your kid when he/she is homeschooled. And there are more.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
2 Oct 08
laydee, thank you for expressing yourself openly like I asked. However I did not ask for advice as to whether or not I should or shouldn't homeschool my children. That decision is already made. They will continue to interact with other children and others their age as time goes via home school field trips and going to the park.
Going to chuckie cheese's which is one of their favorite locations by the way. They understand the importance of sharing and being patient and kind to others. We have already taken care of the eternal salvation with the oldest two, the youngest one still doesn't quite comprehend it, but she is a sponge and soaks up everything. She is the first one to say grace over her food, just by watching the other two.
I don't want you to think I'm upset or anything like that because I'm not.
Irishfrdly thanks so much for your comments as well ~ You literally took my first thoughts out of my mouth which is why I didn't repeat what you already wrote.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
3 Oct 08
Thank you for your view points, it is obvious we do not agree on certain things each one of us has written, which as you perfectly pointed out is fine. Thank you if you
honest opinions and participation in this discussion.
@tlb0822 (1410)
• United States
1 Oct 08
When our daughter is old enough she will be going to public school. I think it is pertinent for children to interact with other children. It's a good way to teach sharing, and communication skills, along with problem solving. I went to public school and I thought it was a good experience.
@jpso138 (7851)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
Well, I have read a lot of news and articles that have proven that home schooling produces better results as compared to public schooling. Basing on what you have shared, I do believe that you are both more than capable in doing so. I wish you and your wife the best. I would have wanted to do it for our child who is currently in Nursery 2 in private school but both of us are working and it would be difficult to give our attention for such home schooling.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Thanks for your words of encouragement and well wishes. Hopefully things will change for you and your family where you might get the opportunity to do so, even for a little while.
@bam620 (24)
• United States
3 Oct 08
I am A young mother of 3 and with the experience that i had in high school i was talking to my husband about homeschooling our 5 year old. With my husband having such a good experience in school he wanted her to have some of those experiences. So we decided on a compromise we would send her to school and see how her reaction was. Well needless to say it wasn't very good. She had a very inexperieced teacher which granted how are you going to learn what works for you. so i understanded that, also my daughter was only 1 student out of 46 children we thought that was a lot of children for a beginner teahcer. So we tried to switch her out of that class and come to find out each teacher had at least 41 students up to 51 students. so we decided to take her out of school and homeschool her. Which was the best i think she learns so well on a one on one basis we have already covered have of the year in a short period of time. We also have a group that we meet up with once a week to once a month and have field trips and such. My husband was worried she wasn't going to learn or stick to what mommy was teaching her everyday but everyday when he gets home she surprises him with something new. I think homeschooling was the best decision for us.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
3 Oct 08
What a horrible experience but yet wonderful story in the end. I'm very glad you and your husband were able to reach that conclusion. Our 6 year old daughter attended school for kindergarden grade in public school. Each day, we would have to undo certain things she was taught by either her teachers or that she learned from other classmates. I for one was definitely growing weary of have to do double work.
At her school, they emphasized using hand santizer for washing their hands verses using soal and water. So my daughter would come home, eat dinner or get ready for dinner and use the santizer verses using soap and water. Arggg that used to bother me greatly. So I sat her down and told her, some things that they allow to do at school are only to be done at school. What we teach at home is to be done at home and whenever we go out in public. She understood and grabbed hold to that concept fairly easy. But that's just one of the things. I have a list of others though. Thank you for sharing.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
1 Oct 08
I've been homeschooled from the start and I'm wrapping up my education here soon.
I've gotten our equivilent of honors, I think. Offers of people to write my biography and crazy but flattering stuff like that.
I think there's data to suggest that homeschoolings tends to have a higher success rate that public and private schools. I think it's mostly one and one time with parents and the fact that homeschooling fits the child's individual needs...instead of the schools as a collectives' needs.
But of course, I'm a bit biased, lol.
Why was I homeschooled? Well, Mom watched the decline of public schools as she grew up and wanted me to have better chances. She wanted to make sure she could look after me without worrying about me being at schools where I could get shot, where kids and adults could influence my developement instead of me growing up without that, and where the education itself may not be top notch.
I'm pretty glad she made that choice now, because I'm something of a free spirit and I'm not sure they would've recognized or appreciated my creativity growing up.
Too many bad stories of schools, and with people as they are in general in my state...my faith in the school system's pretty low lol.
Again, I'm a bit biased, lmao.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
2 Oct 08
You have a right to be bias if you want.
Wow, I appreciate your comments and participation in this discussion.
@annjilena (5618)
• United States
1 Oct 08
i never home school but my friend home school 5 of her children and they are doing fine i think it would be hard to home school if you work a full time job she don,t work her husband does one of her children go to regular school but it all seems to work for her she has a set time when she teach the kids everyday.so good luck with that
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
1 Oct 08
I am a primary school teacher. I feel that I have the necessary knowledge of all subjects from 3 to 11 years old. I would manage to teach subjects that I like from 11 to 18 years old like English, History and Geography. I wouldn't have the necessary subject knowledge for subjects that I am not interested in like Maths, Science and PE. I think that children develop social skills at school but they may also see poor behavior there. They might hear poor language at school and copy that. Girls that go to school tell their parents about their day but boys often say to their parents they can't remember what they did. Your wife is very well qualified in Science and her knowledge of history would be valuable for home schooling. I know a lady that home schools her two children and have grown up speaking fluent French. They do cooking and design projects. They have an excellent education and luckily they meet other children at weekends. Personally I wouldn't wish to do home schooling but I think that is very worthwhile if parents have sufficient subject knowledge.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
2 Oct 08
I am very excited to read your comments. Thank you for participating in this discussion.
@jhenn22 (1242)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
hi! nice to see you here. well, for me it really depends upon the location where you belong. As what you have said that observed that your kids learned a lot when they were in a smaller place which is not applicable here in philippines. We go to public schools and we have also in private yet still in a bigger area. No offense but for me homeschooling is somewhat boring. You can't learn different ideas coz' you are limited only with the idea of yours and your teacher. Unlike in a classroom which you can communicate with your classmates and can argue what they believe and what you believe. It can balances also if you were in a school coz' you're learning and the same time you are socializing with people.
@revellanotvanella (4033)
• United States
1 Oct 08
My best friend, also a friend of the family, homeschool her children until they were old enough for middle school. I think most of her efforts went into vain because she spent so much time and money invested in teaching them but she just lacked the discipline. She would teach them off of a schedule and when they did start public school they took it pretty hard as they have never been exposed to problematic situations. They did have one family that they often played with and thank goodness their mom is such a chatterbox who will talk to any stranger she bumps into in the stores. I believe this helped the kids to eventually branch out and make their own friends. Because when she first put them in school the oldest was being bullied and the youngest was running into clashes because he's already outspoken himself. Not nearly as bad as the oldest also because he's a pretty boy and the girls loved him.
I say her efforts were in vain because the many hours and time invested in networking with other homeschooling familys over the year her kids grew up not valuing their own education. They did not go to college and instead just moved into their fathers old house and got girlfriends and the oldest had a baby soon out of high school and the youngest stays with a friend and works but they just have no need to further their education. I wish their mom would of steered them to seek a higher education but after she divorced It seems like thats when she kind of stopped focusing on their education (thats when they started public school).
I tried to encourage the youngest and make college life sound appealing to him but he just never sounded interested in that. They live in a small town so really many kids end up graduating school, having kids and getting minimum wage jobs so its normal but I just always seen more for them and found it disappointing because they are like family to me. They call me their stepsister.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Thank you for sharing and participating in this discussion.
@braver1987 (239)
• Italy
1 Oct 08
I WANNA GO TO A SCHOOL LIKE "ONE TREE HILL" OR "THE O.C."..but they do not exist..i work now....so no problem about school..
@Leixa003 (867)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
I have nothing against home schooling. But since I studied in both public and private schools, could say there are things you cannot learn from home. One is the interaction with other people. This is where I think one will develop other characteristics such as team work, confidence, and communication. You can view life in different forms. You'll have a classmate that is poor, some are rich, others are well mannered, and some are not to be idolized. You can learn from your classmates experiences and share your thoughts too.
But at home one is sheltered from the harsh world, which is either good or bad, just be prepared once they go out there.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
2 Oct 08
They won't be sheltered or hibernating in a cave all winter like a bear or something. Some of their school lessons come when we are in the grocery store. The count the number of pieces of fruit or read off the ingredients to certain products.
Maybe I used the wrong words. Instead of home school, I could have said nontraditional schooling. It's really interesting to see what others have to say and how they express themselves.
@animeniak (425)
• United States
1 Oct 08
I have never thought about home schooling, and I never thought it was a good idea. But reading your response, maybe home schooling for some particular families are better choice rather than public or private schooling for some reasons. I was never home schooled k-12, and main reason was that because my parents really didn't have so much time to teach me the materials I will need to learn. Also, none of my parents even attended a college, so I really didn't think that they had an ability to teach me some things. Personally, this is what I think, and know: These days, the kids who go to the major public or private schools are cockier than ever. Not all of them; only a few of them are actually nice, well-raised good kids, but most of them who grew up in the cities or urban areas tend to be more cockier, from my experience. If you don't want your kids to be like one of those cocky kids, which I figure you DON'T want them to be, then I really wouldn't bother sending them to public schools, and instead do the homeschooling. I also think if you are considering homeschooling, I think it would be better for your child to be homeschooled along with some of his/her close friends. I just feel... not bad but just weird and strange when a child is being homeschooled alone. Well that's what I think, and it looks like you really want to home school your children, and wish you a luck with it :)
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Thanks for expressing your thoughts. For us in this stage in life it is the better decision. It doesn't mean we won't be able to allow them to go to public or even private school in the future.
@divinegwapa (914)
• Philippines
1 Oct 08
I don't have any children yet, I'm still too young to have one. LOL. But I know friends from church who decided to homeschooled their children. I think it's an excellent idea. You get to focus on your children more and you know what they are doing 24/7 and more importantly you have more time to teach them the right values. But I think it's also very important that they get to socialize with other kids from time to time. ;D
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
2 Oct 08
We will plan trips with other home-schoolers in our area. So it will be like a huge homeschooling family. So their will be lots of opportunity for socialization skills to build.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
1 Oct 08
I don't have any children and graduated from high school before home schooling became popular, but I think it's a great idea. Public schools have been giving children such a bad education, so anything you can do to give your children a leg up, I say do it. Children who are home schooled usually do better than children in public school. You want your children to do the best they can because it will help them to make more informed decisions in their adult life.
@hdjohnson (2981)
• United States
1 Oct 08
okay you ready, 1. 2. 3. ===============[] that's a high five I just gave you.
I thoroughly enjoyed your comment, thanks for sharing.