Annoyed by my Bank!
@GranTurismoGuru (504)
Oxford, England
October 6, 2008 2:54am CST
Yesterday, I made two attempts to pay my credit card bill online. Both attempts failed, with the message - 'Declined'.
This morning, I tried to pay the balance once again - 'Declined'.
So, I called my Bank - Lloyds TSB, to investigate.
They requested information from another of my accounts to verify who I was. After they had confirmed that nothing was wrong with my accounts, they made an enquiry into why my debit card had been declined for payment.
Lloyds TSB said that it was a security check - a random one.
Now, considering there is daily activity within this account, and nothing is wrong, no reports of fraud etc. AND, given that nearly all banks will openly boast about how 'secure' they are, I found this incident to be annoying.
Further to this, the phone call to Lloyds TSB was at my own expense, another number they gave me to call later will be at my own expense, and, the three declined transactions will be on my records with my credit card issuer.
My point to Lloyds TSB is;
Why should I suffer the cost of my time, my phone calls, and the embarrasment in front of my credit card company for declined payment?
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@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
6 Oct 08
GT
You sure know how to hit my sore spots. Annoyed can't begin to describe how angry I am at our bank. Without going into boring details, they have ripped us off more times than I like to think about. My hubby and I are deciding to go a different way. Here in the US we have check cashing places. Most of which make you pay dearly to cash your check. But this one called Amscott is really wellknown. Our plan is to let our checks be automatically deposited into the bank and then withdraw most of the money and pay our bills at Amscott. They are becoming more like the way banks used to be. I'll let you know how things turn out.
Do you have anything like Amscott? It gives you more control over your money.
leenie
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
6 Oct 08
I don't think we have anything quite like Amscott over here. Most people have a Current Account (more or less equivalent to your Checking Account) with a usually well established national bank. We tend not to have the interstate differences that you have and, even within the EU, transactions go smoothly via Visa or Mastercard.
@GranTurismoGuru (504)
• Oxford, England
6 Oct 08
Good evening my dear,
I'm sure there are companies here who do similar things. In my own case, I take cash out of the ATM's if I use the business account - the withdrawals are free.
As for cheques (checks), I havent issued a cheque for ages and ages. I prefer to use my company debit card for purchases and other transactions. My personal accounts are free of charge also.
But, all that asside, I do agree with your frustrations about banks. I think that they have a lot to answer for when it comes to their charges, especially when they impose charges for unauthorised overdrafts which some people cause themselves.
Nice to hear from you tonight,
GT
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@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
7 Oct 08
GT
You hit the nail on the head, as they say. We have had problems with the unauthorized debits and the charges they incurred. Not only did we have to pay dearly for them but the bank allowed them despite the fact that they were not authorized by any means. I believe in paying for my mistakes but I'm afraid the banks have gotten out of control with others money.
leenie
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
6 Oct 08
Try sending your bank a letter charging them for time and expenses and asking for the credit rating to be adjusted. £10 per hour is a reasonable amount to charge for time. This tactic has been recommended by MoneySavingExpert.com. I find that site extremely useful for all sorts of things. I fully recommend that you subscribe to the newsletter.
My bank is also Lloyds and I have always found them very helpful, actually.
@GranTurismoGuru (504)
• Oxford, England
6 Oct 08
Yes indeed, I have always enjoyed a good relationship with Lloyds, but sometimes, I think they get all 'unneccesary' about things - mainly just to get 'one-up' on the competition.
Thanks for your comment,
GTG
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
6 Oct 08
The sort of behaviour you describe would put them 'one down', in my view! I bank with Lloyds (my personal account) and HSBC (joint account). I have occasionally used this to remind one or the other (usually HSBC) that they are not the only ones on the planet that I deign to let look after my money.
Never forget that you are their customer and they are your servants and that there is always someone else who would be dying for your business. (Yes, and I know that banks seem to be dying off like flies at the moment ... but have you noticed how many more adverts there are lately from people who want to lend you money?)
Another technique you can use is to ask them to phone you back, since you don't wish to pay for the call.
Something else worth knowing is that although they may give out 0845 numbers for you to phone them, look a little further in your documentation for the number they supply to call them with a problem if you are overseas. It will start with +44 or 044. Strip off the (+/0)44 and add a zero and you have a number which may well be free to call (depending on your phone plan) from the UK.
Banks are definitely a service that we buy, just like you would hire a builder or plumber. We certainly look at - and sometimes question - the prices that tradesmen charge and we have every right to do the same with financial services. They are riding on the fact that most people haven't yet got round to that way of thinking but it won't be for much longer because there is plenty of competition! The site I mentioned is on top of that and has many tips and tools - all free, by the way - which will help you make sense of it all!
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
6 Oct 08
My credit card is also from Lloyds, which makes payment transfers easy for me. If you use a different supplier for your credit card, then, of course, their 'security routines' need sorting out separately. I suspect that 'refused payments' as a result of a security check won't affect your Credit Rating but you will need to check that with your Credit Card supplier.