I have sympathy for both believers and atheists....do you?

There are many of us believers who believe in scientific knowledge too. We are not illiterates, if that's what you are thinking. If there are some rules that you cannot accept in one faith, you can always relax your views on it. That doesn't have anything to just lose the whole concept of spirituality for materialism.

After evaluating scientifically and logically I believe that the theory of evolution is crap. The big bang theory is the biggest crap of all times. We all are highly educated people and have used our knowledge and understanding to understand God and spirituality. Instead people who do not understand the science of God are called fools. When there is a creation there has to be a creator. If I give you all the raw materials and tell you life will be created automatically from it just like big bang theory says, will you agree? Forget about life. Just create a building automatically from the raw materials. Forget a building, create a brick automatically. So how can plants, animals, humans be created automatically? There has to be a coordinator and a creator. Your 5 senses are not sufficient to understand this basic concept, then how will it understand God which requires extreme efforts. No hard feelings friend but donot be judgemental. People believing are educated people.

Very well said friend. Knowledge is absolutely essential. If we broaden our horizon and read about the lives of saints, we will understand that they have been through a lot of difficulties before achieving their goal i.e love of God. We give up so easily. We judge God without trying to think deeper. We never put into consideration that the law of Karma plays the major role. We all think that we have been perfect all our life and hence we deserve the best. We all are God's children. If we hurt another child of God, we cannot expect to be forgiven every time. We have to undergo punishment. But we consider God to be our order supplier. If our wishes are not fulfilled we think God does not love us or he does not exist. But do we ever think, that we must have done some mistakes which makes us suffer. Law of karma spares no one. Still by the mercy of God we get all the facilities in life. Everybody faces problems in life. Even I face it. But what is the solution? Should we defame God and blame God for it or ask God to forgive us and give us the strength to carry on?

Dear Positiveminded, First of all, please forgive me if you think I have hurt you or Kangallo for any reason at all. My intention was never to hurt you both. I am in fact very glad that you are asking questions and are indeed seriously looking for the answers. I do not think that I am superior or you are inferior, or vice versa. Just so that you may understand me, I am saying this... I was questioning the same questions that you are asking plus a lot more that you have not put down in this discussion to some Mahatmas whom I had the good fortune of meeting every summer vacation in my school days. They gave me the same answer that I wrote to you and even then, I didn't believe them. The reason why I said "Our telling them the answer will not stop them from asking the same questions again. When their own inspiration answers them, they will have no more questions to ask." is because I didn't believe them when they told me the answer!! I understood it all of a sudden when intuition hit me, and I believe it is going to be the same way for everybody. I know exactly what you are going through because I've been there. I believe we are all the same in essence so why would you be inferior or superior to anybody? Although by 'them' I did refer to you and Kangallo because Rup was definitely getting hurt by your questions. I just wanted to emphasise the authenticity of those questions. But I do want to say one thing to you. There are different paths to God. The same path does not work for everybody. Asking questions is not bad, but I would suggest you get some really enlightened mahants to ask those questions because we ordinary humans generally don't possess the maturity to understand the way the mind works differently for another person. Those with maturity will be able to understand the serious questions that you are asking. When you say "Who created God?" and we reply that God is eternal, etc..and you cannot accept that because you say there can be nothing apart from the time and space constraint, then we cannot answer you. Because, we can accept it(though it is hard to imagine with this brain) that there is a possibility of a Being without time and space constraint. So, at this point we can only say that when a spark strikes in your mind how this is possible, you will be able to understand the theory further. For your comprehension, try imagining God as something like an atom(Please don't think I am referring to the atom as God.. this is just an example), which is everywhere, then I guess you might be able to understand. To answer your questions, "So I exist now because I think I do? And if I stop thinking I exist, I will stop existing too?" - You can never stop existing because you always exist, here I was talking about the "I" as a separate entity, with a body, as a separate individual. Sorry I wasn't clear in my explanation. And then "Who is dreaming? You? Me? or God?", the answer is You, Me and God. . You will understand this when your time to understand comes. Again, I am not trying to hurt you or make you feel inferior, this 'time' is different for different people, and I definitely don't know how that works. Please keep asking your questions, but I guess all the people you ask those questions too might not have the maturity and patience to answer you like you want them to. To be honest with you, sometimes it looks as though non-believers think believers to be fools and illiterates and that sometimes it shows in the way they ask questions. So, it is natural to get an angry response. I hope you will have the maturity to keep an open mind with their responses, take only what will help you and discard the rest.

Excellent!! When we learn the numbers 1, 2,3 and still do not know addition, we cannot expect that we will be able to solve complex equations. So one has to follow step by step. These people do not try to understand God, but try to question who created God. I am sure when we reach to a certain level God himself will reveal this to us. I liked you answer. Have a nice day!