Abortion-I"m playing devils advocate

I believe that life starts at conception. My belief that life starts at conception has nothing to do with rather God creates the life or not, especially since I am no longer sure what I believe when it comes to God anymore, I just strongly believe that life starts at conception. I also believe that it is wrong to take a human life, one does not need to believe in religion or God to believe that, even most atheist believe that it is wrong to kill another person. That is why I am mostly pro-life. (I do not have a problem with abortion when it is medically necessary to save the mothers life. When it comes to rape...all I will say is, my personal experience, many years ago I was raped and did get pregnant. My personal choice was to have the baby and give him up for adoption which was prearranged so I knew he would get a home. I made this choice because while I could not see being able to raise this child myself due to the circumstances, I also did not feel right about aborting/taking the life of an innocent baby who was not the one who raped me. To this day I do not regret that decision nor have I been traumatized or haunted my entire life by it. I realize that the decision that I made in that regard is not an easy one, therefore I would not condemn a woman who got an abortion from a rape, but I can not honestly say that I would agree with her decision either. I am not sure how I feel about abortion when it comes to incest because I've never thought much on the matter. I am totally against abortion in all other cases, this is why I say that I am mostly pro-life.)

One of the things that is so detestable about abortion is the intense suffering it causes for the baby. It is literally dismembered. This is an unconscionable act that unfortunately most women do not realize when they go in for an abortion. Clinics will do everything in their power to keep the TRUTH from these women and keep them ignorant. That's why they resist full disclosure and are against ultrasounds. Sadly, when women do find out what they have done, it can lead to guilt and depression. All around, it is degrading and benefits MEN more than anyone else.

This weird coming from me a pro choice person but what about finances. I mean if she has the child , he/she can grow up and pay into the social security system and support his/her parents.Or having children so they can help out in farming or the family business. Or even having the baby secures your inheritance.

I love this angle to the great abortion debate! I don't think there are many arguments against abortion that aren't religion based. An exception might be the physical trauma the pregnant woman could suffer. If someone were to have numerous abortions, wouldn't it affect her internal anatomy negatively? We're talking about a natural process (miscarrying) being done in an unnatural fashion (vaccuum)... that's gotta do a number on the uterus. And if I'm not mistaken, if that woman wanted to eventually have children someday, wouldn't that interfere with the possibility? Of course, that example is based on my presumption of numerous abortions in one uterus. One (or two?) I wouldn't think would be as physically harmful.

I am pro-choice. I believe there are certain situations where an abortion is perfectly justified, and a lot of other situations where it is not, as many other responders have pointed out, but it is still the woman's choice to make. At least in some places. There are societies where the choice will be made for her, by parents, her husband, or even the state in some rare cases. For example, it is reported that until the Indian government took measures to stop the practice, in the more traditional male-dominant Hindu sects, where male children are so highly prized over female, they were using amnio-centesis to decide whether to abort - one study showed that only 3 of 8000 abortions carried out were of male fetuses. But this is a bit off the subject. In societies like ours where the woman does have the say (at least in theory), I certainly can't find an argument against it that isn't religious, and since I am virulently non-religious, I am perfectly happy with that state of affairs. The only area that I find grey is with those who argue, whether or not on religious or simply moral grounds, that human life starts with impregnation. Like cyntrow, I don't, but I can see how someone who does believe that could object on moral grounds. I am assuming that not all people who do feel that way do so on the grounds that there is a soul to be considered, just a life. But by those lights, abortion could be seen as murder. Perhaps a thread (by someone who knows the biology far better than I) on "When does life start?" might be fruitful. Lash

You know, I don't really have an argument for either side. I'm a big believer in let people make up their own minds. Just let people do whatever it is they want to do.

I am a mother of a teenager and a toddler. During my two pregnancies I had ultrasounds. I saw the detail of my children and it looked amazing to me. I went home and followed their development week by week. A surprise pregnancy is not expected so it can shock a lady. If someone is having the sort of relationship that could resort in pregnancy they must be careful if they do not wish to get pregnant. If they do then they will have to choose to keep the baby, abort or adopt. A baby growing inside her mother's womb should be safe. If a surgeon aborts her she will die. Everyone that is born is precious in one way or another. Shakespeare was a gifted author and Mozart was an excellent in the field of music. Aborted people are the missing people of the world. Maybe a talented person was aborted one that would have made the world a better place. Someone like Mother Theresa perhaps. I like peace and I hate war. I am against abortion because it is killing an innocent baby that can't even fight back like a soldier could in a war. If I go to Barbados this year and don't go to Costa Rica, Costa Rica will still be there for me to go to next year. But nothing could bring back an aborted baby, no amount of regret.

A practical reason to be against abortion is what you are asking for? Here is my reasoning I am glad my mother didn't have one with me, I am pretty sure you are glad your mother didn't have one with you either. That said I am pretty sure a woman who is contemplating abortion and decides against it that her child will be pretty happy she didn't have one either.

I am pro choice too. I say a pregnant woman doesn't have to have a baby if she doesn't want to. Because forcing a pregnant woman to have a baby will not make things better. Many people would rather not be born then live a life of misery. I believe a person can become a parent when ever they want. Its not like humans are an endangered species anyways. Yes I know abortion is killing a potential human life but putting women in jail for having an abortion is not going to make things better. The last thing society needs is to put more people in prison.

My views are exactly the same as yours so you'll get no argument from me here. I think you worded this really well and I'll be curious to see the answers! One of my daughters just found herself in an unexpected pregnancy and struggled hard with what to do with it. She is in a tough spot and it isn't a good time at all for her to be pregnant. Knowing how I am, she asked me if I'd be angry with her if she chose abortion. I looked at her and said, " I'd be angry if you made a choice simply to please me!" I refused to give her much input. These things are personal choices and I assured her that I would support her whatever her final decision. She spent a couple of days at my home to sort things out. I watched her struggle with the pros & cons. As it turned out, she miscarried. Abortion is not an easy choice for most women at all. I think most will and do think deeply about such a decision. I know my daughter's life would have been forever changed regardless of what choice she ended up making. Most don't use it as a form of birth control. I think that yes people "should be more careful" etc...but all the "shoulds" in the world are not going to change things. People are going to be careless, women are going to get pregnant even using birth control and abortions are going to take place even if we make them illegal...and thats when things get dangerous. Good post...Cyntrow!

Yes I can and I am pro choice. Abortion is actually very bad for a woman and having one can actually ruin her chances of ever conceiving again. It is possible that medical science has improved in this area but when you conceive your body locks the fetus into place and to abort one they must force this area open. It was explained to my mother by a doctor that it is like forcing a door and the risk is that it my never be able to close properly again. That is not to say that it can't but it is a risk. Now I am going back a few years here but my mother told me that she inquired about an abortion when she was pregnant with her first child and he is now 61 so medical science may have a better way of doing it now I do not know. However, it would give me great doubts about having an abortion. Much better is to take the pill until you are ready to have children as I think the risk is too hard. I know a woman who had great trouble holding her last baby and spent months in bed after several miscarriages.

Abortion in religious way is prohibited coz it serves as a murder. Killing the fetus or life inside your womb. But in medical ways, people can abort their babies if there's a medical complications. Like it harmful and it's dangerous for the mother to continue her pregnancy. Or if the baby has an abnormality inside the womb. Those only the reason why abortion is legal for medical reasons. Some woman aborted thier baby because they are not yet ready and i think that's a bad idea and i condemn it coz they only thinking there personal side. Not considering the life inside thier womb which needs a chance to live and to be love. Happy posting.

hi cynthrow, I dont know why i cant explain it without mentioning about God because for me life is associated to God for He is the creator of mankind and He is the only one can take that life away. As a human being and a believer, abortion is not the answer to the problem (expect to those especial cases like when a fetus is form inside the fallopian tube which in dangered the mother and the child. Abortion should be done to save the others life or else they both die.) I believe that life has a spirit that separate us from other living creatures, that make as special and unique. And because of this we dont own our life we just borrow it from Him. We are created to be a steward for His other creation not to stop His creation.

Would you have liked to be sucked out of your mother? I think that would be a no. that is what i am going to say for now.