Do you take away priveledges?
By katsmeow1213
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
United States
October 11, 2008 8:43am CST
This morning I had to tell my 5 year old son he was not going to play his soccer game. He probably thought I was joking, because he didn't seem too phased when I said it, but he did begin crying when it was time to leave.
He misbehaved this morning and broke house rules, so I took away his soccer game. I do feel badly, and after I lay down a punishment I always ask myself if I'm being too harsh, but he has to learn that I don't mess around when it comes to the house rules.
What does it take to get priveledges taken away from your children? How often do you dole out punishements of this nature?
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@lilybug (21107)
• United States
11 Oct 08
my son gets grounded from his PS2 all of the time. He normally gets grounded for a week at a time, but I cave and let him use it after a few days. He mostly gets this punishment if he is just constantly not listening. Which is something we have trouble with.
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@lilybug (21107)
• United States
11 Oct 08
So true about grounding yourself. I sometimes cave early because it is less stressful for me to let him do whatever it is he is grounded from. I have been trying to cut down the grounding time, but sometimes a week still comes out of my mouth.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I'm with ya Lily. My kids always ask if they can play outside, and sometimes I say no because they didn't behave or do their chores. Well if they don't go out, they only act up worse and I end up punishing myself. After that the only punishment to give them is a nap, which means they don't go to sleep well that night... so even more of a punishment on me.
I'm learning, lol.
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@dncmanning (770)
• United States
11 Oct 08
If you are constantly giving in then maybe you could decrease the time of the grounding- so instead of a week do 2-3 days (or whatever time it is that you usually give in). I have learned the hard way that caving makes the punishment useless. So I have just strated making the punishment livable for both my husband and I and the children.
Food for thought: when you ground your children you have to remember you are also grounding yourself.
Good luck to you.
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@masquedxangel (99)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I'm glad I've seen others saying the same thing as I'm about to.
Never, ever take something like that away. That is just flat-out WRONG! He "misbehaved" so a game he practiced for is taken away? Never, ever okay.
My mom used to ground me all the time, but she took away the computer, the television, phone privledges, things like that (and yes when I was five she'd take away the television and dessert, so it is possible - even if he doesn't watch much TV telling him that now he CAN'T will drive him batty)... but never ONCE did she refuse to take me to a sports event, or theatre events since I eventually lost interest in sports and did musical theatre instead.
Please don't do that to your kid again. I can't stand seeing that. Five or not, that game still mattered to him and now you're going to make him anxious every time there's a game - "will mom let me go THIS time?"
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Oct 08
He won't need to ask that question if he has behaved. I never make threats I don't plan on following through with, and I tell my kids before I get them into anything that if they expect to keep it, they will behave.
What do you think schools do once kids get into the organized sports? If children act up in school they get detention and miss their sports practice. If they get bad grades the school doesn't allow them on the team anymore.
Why is sports any different than something else he cares about? If I take away something he doesn't care about... it's not going to teach him to behave. If I take away something he does care about, he'll learn he needs to do better from now on. Am I right? Well my kids only watch TV on family nights when we all watch a movie together. Our family time is more precious to us than 1 sports game.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Oct 08
At my kids schools sports are the first thing to go.. or music classes or whatever other groups they're in. They're all done at the same time of day.. immediatly after school, which would be when they go to detention if they recieve that. They don't dole out lunch time detentions or anything of that nature.
And no he really isn't all that important to the team since the team has 12 kids and only 6 or 7 play at a time. Each child sits out a good percentage of the game, so in actuality it gave another child a chance to play.
Would it be any different if I didn't sign him up in the first place? Many parents can't afford to get their kids into sports. This particular child wasn't even interested in playing until he tried it. If I'd asked him before I signed him up, he would have said no.. and he wouldn't be playing anyways... so how is it hurting him so much to make him miss 1 game? There will be plenty of other games before the season is over.
What did he do wrong to deserve this? He broke his baby brother's toy by throwing it across the room and it hit the baby. What would you have done?
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@dncmanning (770)
• United States
11 Oct 08
The difference is you're punishing an entire team not just your child. I get that you don't see soccer as a big deal at 5- but it is the foundation for other things, Responsibility being the biggest among them.
School sports are different to a degree. But schools don't take away sports first, they have implemented policies for just such a reason- hince detention at lunch or after school and things like in-school suspension.
I guess a bigger picture is that 5 years old run amock- its the beauty of being 5. So what did he do anyway- why did he get this punishment?
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
12 Oct 08
Well, the point of punishment is that the kids aren't supposed to like it. I don't have children yet, but I do know from watching the parenting styles of my friends and family, that if you don't show that you mean business, your kids will try to walk all over you.
When I was younger, if we broke serious house rules, we were spanked and grounded for it. Was it overkill? Maybe - but it got the message through. As we grew older, though, I parents started getting soft in their punishments. They slowly stopped spanking us, and being grounded was usually no big deal. They'd take away phone or TV watching privileges, but we could always go online and compensate for the loss. They never really took away anything we really liked, so being punished was no big deal. We didn't fear the punishments, so there was no incentive for us not to break the rules.
I firmly believe that if your child doesn't like the punishment doled out, then you've chosen the right course of action. If they don't care, or it's not really too big of a deal to them, then you've punished them the wrong way. They need to fear the consequences of their actions. Beware the shrug or roll of the eyes when you punish your kids - that usually means it's not going to bother them (at least, that's how it was for me). If they cry and beg, though, then you know you've hit a soft spot.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
12 Oct 08
I feel the same way. Thanks for your input.
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@simplyshawn (650)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I don't dole out punishments of that nature too often. I believe it was last year that, in Sept, my 5yr lost his bike until the next spring. We were going for a walk and he got about 2 blocks ahead of me by the high school and there was a volleyball game going on. (my husband was at the weight room there). He had been pushing his luck before then too, but that was the last straw, no more bike. He didn't like it at all, but we don't want him to get hit by a car, which of course never occurs to him.
Normally I take away smaller things, tv time or computer time.
@dncmanning (770)
• United States
12 Oct 08
Good for you- WAY TO GO MOM!!!!!!
I would have done the same thing- safety is a big issue for all parents.
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@dncmanning (770)
• United States
11 Oct 08
While I agree that children must have consequences for their actions and that taking away certain things is more than acceptable, I would caution that not allowing a child to play in a team event hurts not only the child but the team. If enough members don't show up- the whole team suffers. This takes away from the team concept and can hurt your child socially as they age.
I have taken away favorite toys and games and this does seem to work, my boys are 11 and 8 and have reached an age where taking away the TV or computer works wonders.
At 5 I can't really recall taking away a privilege such as a game but with age yes I have taken that away- but I have also let the coach know so he/ she can prepare for that.
Good Luck and enjoy your son- this is a great age and time flies.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Oct 08
This team is not like that.. it's a totally recreational thing. Plus he's only 5, it's not like it's a school event.
Not to mention his soccer games are more frustrating than they're worth since none of the kids actually pay attention to the coach and run amuck, teaching my kid bad habits. I probably did him a favor by skipping it to be honest.
I've had to do it with my oldest too. Sometimes they take things for granted and need to know that I'm not against taking away things that are important to them. Once is usually all it takes.
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@dncmanning (770)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I know that team sports at that age are for fun but they do teach chlidren responsibility to others- even if the coach can't control them, its the bases for teamwork and counting on your peers. It's the foundation for sports at a later age. I completely understand what you mean about a group of 5 year olds running amuck- but they are learning although we as parents don't always see it. Good luck to you.
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@mercuryman3a (2477)
• India
12 Oct 08
I nver take away privileges as it reallydoes not solve tehproblem. Waht if your child accepts theloss of teh privilege but still does not budge from the original stand? How many privileges can you keep taking away? It is sending a wrong lessonto your child. Tomorrow whenhe is ina positionof authourity, he willuse the same method with his workers.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
11 Oct 08
Thankfully we don't have to do it often, but we do take away such things.
In fact, he is punished right now. Yesterday my parents came out this way since the kids were off of school. We ate sushi and then wandered over to starbucks. We were all sitting around talking, my son and my husband were goofing off. Well my son starts talking about something, well I didn't notice because I was in a different conversation.He got annoyed and pinched me (which is very out of character for him). So he lost his computer for a week - i went in his room last night and took ALL of his wires, he also is loosing his DS and Game Cube and depending on his attitude when he gets home tomorrow, he may loose his outside time as well.
Was that overreacting, maybe. I am going to be in a situation soon where I am the only one home dealing with him. I know that he is testing his boundaries and is 9, that is normal, but I can't allow him to push his limits and not see a consequence. His step-dad will be gone for months and I know I am in for a long journey.
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@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
11 Oct 08
I try to keep it is a last measure. However if I say something then I stick with it. If i say that he won't get out or watch his favourite programme on tv I would not allow him to watch it. Otherwise my son won't take me seriously next time. I try to keep this type of punishment as rare as possible.
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@beautyqueen26 (16030)
• United States
12 Oct 08
I haven't started taking away
privileges yet.
Though I've heard that Dr. Phil
recommends doing so.
He says that you have to find your
child's currency.
For my daughter that would be her DVDs
or playing outside.
If I took away her DVDs, she would simply
sit by herself in her room and play with her
dolls.
She's very resourceful.
Right now, she's not doing anything too
bad.
So I haven't taken anything away yet.
Maybe soon, I'll have to.
I'll keep this idea in mind!
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
12 Oct 08
Taking away outdoor time is more of a punishment to you, so make that one the last resort. I normally try toys first, or if they're messing around too much I make them sit right next to me for a little while and not play with anything. Mostly with them it's just they get too loud, so I have to give them something calmer to do.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
12 Oct 08
Well, I don't know as I'm right or not here and I certainly am not judging you so don't think that I am but I do think that sports are a good thing for kids. I never took away something like that as a punishment. The school will usually take away the sports privilege if grades are not kept up. I usually never took a pre-planned event away from my kids unless it was stated ahead of time that you can do this IF you do this. Much depended on the crime and the situation. I usually use the "crime" for future priviledges. Not knowing your situation, its hard for me to really say that you were wrong here. I try to make the punishment fit the crime. I raised 4 and every situation and every kid is different. I could tell you what I'd do with my daughter in any given situation and it would be all wrong for your son. Heck, with 4 of them here....there were no cut and dry solutions. All you can do is listen to the advise of everyone else and then listen to your heart. No one knows your child as you do.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 08
hi katsmeow no you are not too harsh, just be consistent.
I never had a lot of money to buy my son a lot of stuff like computers and computer games, but if he pushed me and disrespected me I would cut down on his outdoor p riveleges but he was really a good kid and this seldom happen So I can truthfully say maybe once in three months if that.
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@blackmantra_x (2732)
• Philippines
12 Oct 08
Good day.. Well, it depends on the gravity of the mistake. I mean if I think it's fair to give him a second chance without repercussion or the mistake is minimal/ easily forgivable I won't take away his privileges and can give him another chance. But if the mistake is grave and that action should be taken immediately so as not for him to forget it easily and repeat it then I would take away his privileges if not more. It's hard but I'll do it for his sake.
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@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
11 Oct 08
When taking away privileges, I think you have to weigh the consequences. I think, when you stop your child from participating in the soccer game, it hurts the other players on the team that depend on him. If my daughter did that to her son who is goalie,it would definitely penalize the team since he is the best goalie in the league. I would find another punishment, another privilege to take away. And do stand by whatever you decide, but I would have found another one to take the place of this one.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Oct 08
This soccer team isn't like through school or anything. It's just a recreational thing. Hard to explain, but honestly it wasn't a huge deal to the team to not have him there today.
They already aren't allowed to watch TV unless it's a special occasion, and none of his toys are important enough to take away. So basically all I have is his soccer and his outdoor time.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Oct 08
Once is usually all it takes. Usually if it's a minor infraction I will warn that he'll have something taken away. This was really not a minor infraction, so it truly did warrant this punishment.
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@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
11 Oct 08
I understand. My daughter's children all played City League, but you still have to pay for them to play. But I guess if you don't have any thing else to take away, you'll just have to make him understand it's his choice. Sometimes, though, I think young children forget and act up and then realize they were having to miss something they enjoy.
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@Fedas777 (140)
• Ireland
11 Oct 08
Discipline and education is the most important things but sport activities are not less important. If my kids doing something wrong i don't let for them to watch tv or something like this. But i don't think that it is right don't let for kids to do sport activities because they did something wrong.
In future you can get situation when you son will do something wrong on purpose that don't go to do sport activities. Just leave him without favorite toy or don't let for him to watch favorite programme on tv.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Oct 08
My kids do not watch TV anyways. But I don't view this sport as being all that important. It is not through school, it is just a recreational thing. But I'm pretty sure missing his game today made him understand that he needs to behave.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
11 Oct 08
Yes he does think it's important.. that was the whole point. It's only effective if it's important to him.
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@Fedas777 (140)
• Ireland
11 Oct 08
You don't view this sport as being all that important but probably for your son this is very important. Kids getting their interests from as little as they begin to understand us and one of this interests will rule them through their lives. Yes it's not through the school but this is a sport activity. Education don't mean anything without health body. You can make kids study all the time but they won't be healthy.
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@praveenkumar06 (4077)
• Hyderabad, India
12 Oct 08
As a parent, I’m well aware that there are times when a certain punishment fits the crime, and there are other times when all logic goes out of the equation, and the punishment that’s dished out is way overboard
@trixyteddy (1070)
• India
13 Oct 08
Yes, I used to feel bad after punishing my children, but I also knew that it was good for them. When they are asleep and you watch them after being punished, you wonder whether you did right. Now they are all grown up and I don't have to worry about such things any more. When the children are very young, keeping them indoors as a punishment works out. But once they grow up, say after 8 years onwards, they really don't mind because they have a lot to do inside the home itself. Play games on the computer, or just use the computer or watch television. So the grounding has to be total when they grow up. I do wish you all luck in bringing up your son. Do enjoy it.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
12 Oct 08
katsmeow1213,
Kudos here. I am on your side on this taking away of privileges and you had done the right thing. Soccer may be a team sport, but I can always tell the coach and get him excused for some good child discipline. So what if he is an essential team member or the key player, I am sure you would not want another spoilt brat soccer star who is going to ruin away his life without any good old parent discipline. I would not stand and agree to that.
All parents will never want to punish their child if they had behaved and showed discipline in the first place. Just ignore what some had said about your son getting misunderstood by his team, I am sure as adults from the coach to you parents - all will understand.
Parenting is never easy and there is no true methods, everything and everyday is circumstantial. We just need to go trial and error and be ever observant. Where they enjoy most, will be their soft spot and we just need to limit them when they are out of line. There will be certain instances where it will warrant a corporal punishment and I just hope that that day will not happen for your child. However, you will need to be prepared for such a day and hopefully you will not spare the rod and spoil the child, then.
Take care and have a nice day.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
12 Oct 08
Once is usually all it takes for them to learn that they must behave in order to keep the things that are important to them. And yes, all children need to learn that actions have concequences, otherwise when they're an adult and do something wrong and get a punishment for it, they will be dumbfounded. It's a part of life that starts at a very young age.
@gemini_rose (16264)
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12 Oct 08
I threaten them with it, but up until now I have never had to carry it out as they always behave themselves once I warn them. If they got to the point where they thought I was just joking and carried on messing about then I would carry out my threat because they need to know that they cannot get away with it.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
12 Oct 08
I warned him when soccer began that if he misbehaved he'd lose soccer. But yesterday when I doled out the punishment he got no warning. The offense was something he's done many times and has been punished many times for. When I caught him doing it I just said he wasn't going to his game, and that was it.
I didn't take all of soccer away, just the 1 game. Hopefully he has learned his lesson now.
@redkathy (3374)
• United States
13 Oct 08
Well I always tried practiced "let the punishment fit the crime". Often times when I look back on my parenting, I think I was too hard in some areas and maybe a wee bit lax in others where my oldest is concerned. It is always unique with the first child and in my case I was divorced too. As one grows in parenting life, one sorts these things out. So long as the children aren't always on punishment for little insignificant things, then privileges should be taken away and rules must be honored. You question yourself to keep in check and that's a good thing. Parenting is tough because love is so great. Keep up the good work, your children will benefit greatly!
@curlyshirley (24)
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12 Oct 08
Kat,time and time again I watch my kids struggling with parenting their own kids,and boy its a hard job.Yes you may have to take away priveleges to make them understand right from wrong,in the UK it is now against the law to chastise your child by smacking him/her.so that is out of the window.But therefore we need to adopt other ways of making them toe the line.The one way that my grand kids are affected is if they have things taken away from them ,things that they love doing,say the play station gets removed and they have to go and read a book,or the Nintendo is confiscated lo and they have to go play bat and ball instead.But this method does seem to deter them,it seems to make them think twice about doing any real wrong.OK well supernanny would say send them to the naughty corner lol,but then it breaks your heart to see them sobbing in that corner,so you cave in,and soon enough you are back to square one.I reckon a little deprivation never hurt anyone.