Many questions left unanswered....
@edgyk8inmomma (2157)
United States
October 13, 2008 11:29am CST
I find this amusing....It seems that every time I am in a discussion (here or not) with a person who does not believe in the religious teachings, when they get stumped or corrected they just disappear.
Some present themselves as very knowledgeable, and they make it their life's quest to set everyone straight. They call religious people ignorant, stupid, moronic, and all sorts of things. They say that it is ignorance that bothers them, and they just want to inform people. BUT, when a "religious" person sets them straight, or asks them relevant questions....they change the subject, divert attention to other areas, go on the defensive and attack, or just walk away (or don't respond).
If you have been in such a discussion and this sounds familiar, why do think it happens? Or if you are one of these super intellects, why do you respond this way?
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@tessah (6617)
• United States
13 Oct 08
ive been in my fair share of the religious discussions around this place.. with you there as well alot of the time. why do they run.. or get nasty.. very simplistically.. they lack the self proclaimed knowledge they boast about. so when faced with a question they have no answer for.. or the answers they offer are disputed as being wrong.. they flee or resort to insults, or more often than not.. they repeat the exact same thing over and over as if a mantra. (ie Jesus is good ALL THE TIME! ) i can sometimes almost see them with eyes shut tight, hands over their ears.. repeating incessantly trying to block out the logic and facts in front of them. to have yer beleif system swayed, basically yer entire reality shifted.. is alot to swallow. harder still for the closedminded that havent ever allowed the thought process that things might not be to the letter exactly what theyve been told it was... and this leads to anger, resentments, and lashing out at those who have been the ones to lead them to questioning, faltering, and pointing out where their "facts" are flawed.
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sorry the things that transpired sent you running.. but glad to see you back
@rev1wendy (611)
• United States
13 Oct 08
Tessah, I still like the way you think! Don't know if you remember me. I haven't been around in a while. I got pretty mad over the stuff that happened with Sparks. Good to be back though. Hope to see you around.
Rev Wendy
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@edgyk8inmomma (2157)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I know Tess, you and I have both been the target of believers and non-believers. Its a sad world really...and I'm sure some here are getting tired of reading me say that...but its true.
That mantra goes for both sets as well. I get tired of hearing...just read this and you'll know why I say that. It really irritates me, that some count one thing credible while ignoring something else, but wont explain why.
I love facts, and things that are provable, among things that are rational. You have been one of the few who will actually give personal relational information on why you believe the way you do, and what makes you trust a source. Why do you think others don't? They get so annoyed with people who recite religious teachings and scriptures. But when someone comes to the discussion, without quoting those things, and tries to approach the topic from a rational approach, and asks relevant questions...they (I) get ignored or diverted, or get to read and reread the mantra. Its irritating at the least. I only step into those discussions because the people have presented themselves as rational beings who like to expand their knowledge, but too often let me down:(
@soooobored (1184)
• United States
13 Oct 08
I've seen some discussions like you are referring to. A lot of times what happens with me (I believe in god, but I don't follow religion) is I will be discussing something like evolution, and then I will realize that the person I'm arguing with is using religion as fact in their side of the argument. I just let it go, it's not a real discussion anymore.
I have seen the atheist bullies around here, who are trying to turn people against their religion... I don't really know what to say for that, I think it's rude, but again, you can always just walk away.
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@rev1wendy (611)
• United States
13 Oct 08
Hi Sooo,
I like your answer. I am an ordained, non-denominational minister who also does not follow a religion as I believe that "religion" is the worst thing that ever happened to Christianity. God bless.
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@magicalangel (642)
• Brisbane, Australia
13 Oct 08
I know from whose post you are inspired to start this discussion. I appreciate your discussion because I have also responded to some posts where you also shared your opinion. I agree with your thoughts and whatever you wrote. I am also waiting if such so called knowledgeable[actually not] person still reply on my reply or not. Let us see how many lies one can talk on religious topic with religious people.
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@edgyk8inmomma (2157)
• United States
14 Oct 08
Yes, that discussion is one of which I am referring to. But it is not THE discussion I am referring to. It happpens over and over again. And not just here, in other forums, as well in the real world.
I am glad to hear you appreciate my thoughts:)
@rowe0525 (677)
• China
13 Oct 08
yeah .same here .sometimes ,i star some question are atill unanswer,it is really make me upset,so i hate them
some people answer this uestion is to make more money ,,but not m e,my major target on mylot is to learn english well,
i like english a lot ,with my poor english ,so i must improve my speaking english,so would you help me
best luck to you
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@LadyWinter (195)
• United States
13 Oct 08
I have found that when it comes to beliefs there are people on both sides who get angry easily when they are corrected or argued with. I am not Christian I am pagan. While I dont share Christian beliefs I tolerate them. Rarely will I respond negatively unless someone is attacking another religion. I dont feel I need to disprove someone else's faith to be solid in mine. Anyone can pick apart any religion because when you come down to it it is all based in Faith.
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@Crocket (315)
• Canada
13 Oct 08
In response to this discussion I have found that most people don't want to be bothered with any sort of religious teaching what so ever. I myself study religion in many fields and have noticed that the majority of people actually shy away from any discussion with me on the topic. We need to have more faith in ourselves and this is what God wants us to do. People of little faith in general have a very shallow outlook on life in general. db
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Oct 08
edghk8inmomma why do I think it happens? because so many religous people think if we do not know every word or sentence in the bible we have to be preached at with long montonous discussions that turn a lot of really devoted christians off.why must we be corrected, why not let each of us believe the way we want, and not preach to us over and over, and correct us even when we dont ask for all that. Sets them straight, now did you ever think maybe we do not want to be set straight, maybe we have our own personal beliefs. if they dont seem correct to you, maybe that is your own hard luck. some people come on here hell bent to save us all and preach a lengthy sermon to do it.I believe that we each are entitled to our own religion and to our own beliefs and ways of interpreting them. I say leave us the heck alone.
@edgyk8inmomma (2157)
• United States
14 Oct 08
I understand that, and have seen it many times. But that's not really the issue I'm referring to. I'm talking about intelligent conversations, that begin very harmless. A person asks a question, that is obviously fishing for people to share their faith, only to gain an edge to attack that faith based on some fact they think they have. But once that fact is opened up and examined, it is clear it is no more a fact than the what the person of faith holds as fact. This sends the super intellect into fits of rage, name calling, or running out the back door without ever justifying themselves. They preach to the religious that they are ignorant sheep following a wolf in the night. But they are guilty of the same thing, only they have some research presented by a human, just as the religious do, and for some reason think its more reliable. But when the unreliable features are exposed they get unconfortable and don't have a response.
@hoping4amiracle (227)
• United States
14 Oct 08
The reason people get upset because you brought up something that they don't want to hear and it something about themself that they don't want to change or admit that they are wrong and so they walk away so they don't have to change or look at themself but the sad, thing is that no matter how hard they run away one day they will have to face it.
