Many questions left unanswered....

yeah i remember you sorry the things that transpired sent you running.. but glad to see you back

Tessah, I still like the way you think! Don't know if you remember me. I haven't been around in a while. I got pretty mad over the stuff that happened with Sparks. Good to be back though. Hope to see you around. Rev Wendy

I know Tess, you and I have both been the target of believers and non-believers. Its a sad world really...and I'm sure some here are getting tired of reading me say that...but its true. That mantra goes for both sets as well. I get tired of hearing...just read this and you'll know why I say that. It really irritates me, that some count one thing credible while ignoring something else, but wont explain why. I love facts, and things that are provable, among things that are rational. You have been one of the few who will actually give personal relational information on why you believe the way you do, and what makes you trust a source. Why do you think others don't? They get so annoyed with people who recite religious teachings and scriptures. But when someone comes to the discussion, without quoting those things, and tries to approach the topic from a rational approach, and asks relevant questions...they (I) get ignored or diverted, or get to read and reread the mantra. Its irritating at the least. I only step into those discussions because the people have presented themselves as rational beings who like to expand their knowledge, but too often let me down:(

Fair enough:)

Hi Sooo, I like your answer. I am an ordained, non-denominational minister who also does not follow a religion as I believe that "religion" is the worst thing that ever happened to Christianity. God bless.

Yes, that discussion is one of which I am referring to. But it is not THE discussion I am referring to. It happpens over and over again. And not just here, in other forums, as well in the real world. I am glad to hear you appreciate my thoughts:)

Yes, you are right, it does go both ways...and I have been on th recieving end of both the religious and non religious. Stuff just gets too emotional. I just don't get why people say they want a nice discussion of intelligent minds...then they themselves get all emotional....or work to hard not to and become cold and bitter. I can see why some run away when the "religious" person gets all preachy, but what if they aren't? What if the reliogious prson never brings religion into it? What if the religious person looks in on the topic from a purely scientific or philisophical way? Why then do these people end the discussion? And remember I am not only referring to folks here, in real life too.

I understand that, and have seen it many times. But that's not really the issue I'm referring to. I'm talking about intelligent conversations, that begin very harmless. A person asks a question, that is obviously fishing for people to share their faith, only to gain an edge to attack that faith based on some fact they think they have. But once that fact is opened up and examined, it is clear it is no more a fact than the what the person of faith holds as fact. This sends the super intellect into fits of rage, name calling, or running out the back door without ever justifying themselves. They preach to the religious that they are ignorant sheep following a wolf in the night. But they are guilty of the same thing, only they have some research presented by a human, just as the religious do, and for some reason think its more reliable. But when the unreliable features are exposed they get unconfortable and don't have a response.