Obama--honesty problem

"Obama clearly has an honesty problem, especially with regards to his past. He was lived in Indonesia, had a Muslim father and stepfather and was registered in two Indonesian schools as a Muslim student." 1. I don't recall him lying about these things. 2. The schools in question were not religious schools. Also, it was common custom to list the child's religion as that of his father (who I will remind you had no real role in Barack's life, having abandoned the family when he was two). There was no indoctrination of any kind going on at these schools.. This has been debunked since the days when people were claiming these schools were madrassas. Where have you been? http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/ "He may have later chosen not to be, but there is no denying he practiced the Muslim faith at least for a time." Since your premise is false, it's no wonder that your conclusion is also. If all the stuff you said was true, it'd be another story. But it isn't. "Obama's lack of honesty about his past is very disturbing." This lack exists not in reality, but in your imagination. Obama's gone into more detail than most would care to read about in his books. "Obama claims to be a Christian, yet he is in favor of abortion, which the Bible calls murder (Exodus 21:22-23)." 1. Pro-choice (which is what you actually meant) is not pro-abortion. Straw man fallacy. 2. I know lots of pro-choice Christians. All you need to be a Christian is to believe that Jesus Christ existed, and that he was divine. If you believe those things, you're a Christian, even if people like you decide they aren't. You have no authority on that matter. 3. That very excerpt, at worse, says that 'doing' an abortion, in and of itself, merits merely a fine, that "judges" decide. If God REALLY thought abortion was murder, why does there need to be additional "mischief" to merit a punishment that is anywhere close to the penalty for murder? "He has not changed his Muslim name" So? I didn't change my name when I left Christianity. Does that mean I'm still secretly a Christian? What an idiotic argument. "his middle name, Hussein, is undeniably a Muslim name" It was his dad's name. Big deal, tons of people are named after their parents. Again, his father had no part in his life--only someone REALLY looking for an excuse would make a big deal out of this. "yet all over the world, including in Indonesia where he lived, when a man or woman converts from Islam to Christianity, he or she ALWAYS changes his or her name to reflect their new identity in Christ and to never again be identified with Islam." Proof, please. "And of course, he has lied publicly, also against the Bible (Exodus 20:16)." ROFL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/12/MNG713F15A.DTL "All of this brings me, and many others to the question, what else is he hiding?" You haven't proven he's hidden ANYTHING.

What difference does his past really make though? Today and tomorrow are more important at this point! Besides that past affiliation gives him an inside track. It seems people are looking for any reason to discredit him. Do you really want to take the chance of having a woman (like Sarah Palin) be president? What if something happens to McCain? Like his self-righteous attitude and snide personality catching up with him? I'm pulling for the intelligent ticket this time! And you don't think McCain and Palin are liars? OMG - just about every time they open their mouths!

Um didn't Palins daughter have an abortion?

What is the difference between Christianity and Muslim isn't it that they are praying to the same God. The only thing that would be wrong in my estimation is that if he was praying to a cow or mammal which the Lord say that 'Thou Shall Has No Other God But Me". I don't see a difference in the Koran or the Christian Bible. We all are praying to one God. If he was saying praying to Buddha/Cow or some other craven God and does not want to give it up then I will have a problem. We need to read our bible and asked for Understanding and Wisdom before we start to accuse. Kerry

He went to a CATHOLIC school in Indonesia. His paternal grandfather was Muslim, which is where the name Hussein comes from, and his stepfather was also Muslim. Barack lived in Indonesia with his mother and stepfather for one year during his childhood, attended a Catholic school, then was sent back to Hawaii where he lived to adulthood with his Protestant grandparents. And many Christians are not necessarily anti abortion. Nor anti gay marriage. The vast majority of Catholics are actually Democrats, even though the Democratic platform is pro-choice and pro-gay marriage. So you can be a Christian and a Democrat at the same time!

Now this is two different issues. First you address his lying. He is a politician. Please tell me you dont honestly believe McCain, who lied in his own biography about his affair with his new wife, or Sarah Palin, who has just been found to have abused her power as governor, has never lied? Secondly we have the Muslim issue. George W. is a Christian and he has been fantastic for our country! LMAO. What does religion matter? Why should only Christians lead American? Mitt Romney was Mormon and he made a good showing. Are you prejudiced against people of other religions? Thirdly abortion. He is pro-choice. A lot of people are pro-choice. That doesnt mean they are for infantacide. It means in case of rape or incest they are for taking care of the poor woman it happened to and not some unknown cluster of cells. You seem to feel you know who is a true christian and who isnt....Did God give you the right to judge? Did he give you the ability to know other peoples hearts? Does it say in the bible judge others before you know them?

Only a conman has to hide his past.

These are among the things that bother me. Obama doesn't tell the truth. He's arrogant about it too, as if it's none of anyone's business. It is! I'd also like to know how he could associate with a known terrorist. How he decided that man and his wife (both terrorists) should be the ones to help launch his first political campaign. I wonder how he could sit in a pew year after year and not hear what the pastor was preaching. (Before they took it down, the web site showed archived YEARS of the same bashing of America and white people.) We are known by the company we keep. Kids are taught that early on.