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Did you find the presidential debates as boring as I did?
By clrumfelt
@clrumfelt (5490)
United States
October 15, 2008 9:20am CST
Until this morning I couldn't quite put my finger on why the presidential debates had made me feel uncomfortable. The candidates seemed so subdued and limited in their responses the debates were more like bad press conferences. Everthing was obviously scripted and limited to a very tight format. This morning I saw a story
on C-Span that explained the lameness of the debates. George Farah, of OpenDebates.com, describes a bipartisan privately funded organization, the Commission on Presidential Debates, that so stringently controls the debate process we can not really see the candidates in action, interacting with one another in any spontaneous way. I think this organization is doing the American people a disservice by exerting such control over the debates. What do you think?
http://www.opendebates.com/theissue/
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13 responses
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
16 Oct 08
Thanks for your comments, reddbone. Personally, I think the economy is in the toilet right now and could use some changing around. Reform for a lot of aspects
of politics and the economy will be good and I think McCain will work to bring them, so he gets my vote.
@Cloujus (3)
• United States
16 Oct 08
I think really that they needed to change the format of the debate, the last one that they had between Mcain and Obama was terrible, they were not allowed to fight back at each other and were not allowed to interupt and share the counter arguments.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
16 Oct 08
The last debate will be a little different format. I am hoping there will be more interaction between the candidates themselves, and that more information will be forthcoming. Perhaps Morley Shaffer will do a better job of eliciting information and getting them to interact.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
15 Oct 08
I cannot watch the debates, on one hand you have Obama a man who talks about killing what made America great, and on the other McCain a man who talks about killing what made the GOP great. To me it is not the format but the men on the stage that make the debates for me unwatchable.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
16 Oct 08
It sad people are not more happy with the candidates of their parties this year. Many of us feel we will be voting for the lesser of two evils in this election.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
15 Oct 08
I was lucky. I did not watch the debates, but I find that if you have the candidates control them, then you just seem to get a series of arguments and news conference speeches. They should be run by a non-partisan committee instead of by Obama and McCain. Then when I went here to find the reaction, I got the Obama was better by the Obamanites and the reverse by the McCain supporters, so I figured it depended on who you were supporting as to who won.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
16 Oct 08
Good point. We got no new information from the debates. It was just like viewing a press conference.
@maccer50 (39)
• United States
15 Oct 08
You know what I found interesting was watching the body language of the audience. There was one lady that I found especially expressive because she had her arms folded and her legs crossed. It was like she was exerting all of the control of her body and restraining her reactions as much as she could. I found myself shouting and jumping up a couple of times and I thought that the tightly constrained rules that the audience members were participating under would have given me an aneurysm. Also, you are correct in stating that the feel of the whole thing was phoney bologna. It had a plastic and structured feel. I think the debates would be much more interesting if they were permitted to be more flowing and organic. You know, let the audience shout it out. Let the candidates respond like real people. That would surely show us how the candidates operate under pressure, very important for a U.S. president. Don't you think so?
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
16 Oct 08
The candidates were totally scripted. The point you made about watching the audience is interesting. The audience is controlled as best it can be by those in charge of the debate, but they are not scripted to the extent of the candidates and body language can be very telling. Thanks for your comments.
@dramaclass (3)
• Canada
15 Oct 08
Yo man, disscussion are the most lame and boring things to have happend, like why can't we just chill with some cool debates for once, I mean come on, I am 100% sure no one can absoloutly stand by and watch and ENJOY a presidential debate.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
16 Oct 08
There were probably a lot more interesting shows on tv to watch during the debates, but for a political junkie like me, I watch just hoping one of them will say something I haven't heard before, or be a little spontaneous outside the scripted box, but so far I have been disappointed.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
15 Oct 08
I agree the Debates are boring. It seems that the questions being asked are the same talking points. I would like to see follow up and the candidate challenged when they did not answer the question. Lets have Bill O'Rielly moderate a debate.
My ideal format would be to have the Republicans select a person to question the Democrat and vise vesa. This way we may get at the questions. i can not believe that out of 16,000 questions submitted there was not a question on Abortion or gay marriage? What about fixing Social security? These are also very important issues. Lets get a real debate where we can clearly see where the candidates explain their positions and not just more recycled speeches.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
16 Oct 08
I agree with you. Bill O'Reilly would be a good moderator, and a debate where the real issues could be honestly addressed would be a breath of fresh air in the political climate of this election.
@kykidd (6812)
• United States
16 Oct 08
I agree completely. Now and then there might have been a bit of an interuption by Obama, but John McCain would just keep talking. It didn't really get heated because Obama would just stop trying to interrupt instead of going on and on.
I definitely would have to say that the debates in the Spring were a bit more exciting. The candidates would interrupt and go at each other.
Or what about the debates back when Al Gore was running against President George W. Bush. Now those were pretty funny and exciting. Al Gore supposedly invented the internet. President Bush accused Al Gore of using "fuzzy math". It was just hilarious. My favorite ever I think.
Oh well, I guess we do want our next president to be polite. LOL
Hope you have a great day!
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
15 Oct 08
Clrumfelt,
IMO the debates are as useless as t!ts on a boar hog! The moderators even have an agenda and it shows by the questions they ask. I'm not even sure the townhall venue wasn't scripted. The candidates are never pinned down on true issues and their answers are usually so canned you could have gone to their website and read them word for word.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
16 Oct 08
The town hall debate was scripted. The audience had submitted their questions in advance of the debate and they were chosen ahead of time. I'm not sure if the candidates had the opportunity to preview them and prepare their answers, but I suspect they did. No spontaneity there.
@mikeysmom (2088)
• United States
16 Oct 08
i was too tired to stay up and watch it but i would have liked to. i am sure it was boring though. it is anyone's guess what will happen and who will wind up president. there are so many people who like obama and so many who dislike him and will throw their vote to mccain just to take a vote away from him. so who knows if the debate really made any difference anyway.
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@mrhanke01 (47)
• United States
16 Oct 08
I watched ten minutes of it on Myspace, and found it boring. I am voting for Baldwin, but since they can't be viewed in any televised debates, I will just have to wait for the 19th when they will be debating over the net. Open up the debate to the third party candidates. That would give real choice. Not the lesser of two evils.
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@evanslf (484)
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15 Oct 08
Yes the debates are very controlled and I know there were quite a lot of people expressing their fustration at rigidly enforced debate format, particularly during the second presidential debate.
I think the Commission is to blame though I suspect the parties are as well since they place many requirements on the commission as they are both vying to ensure that their candidate is not disadvantaged.
I think there is also a major problem in that it looks like the moderator is not allowed to ask searching follow-up questions and I think it is both parties and candidates that are to blame for that, since they both seem to be frightened of the follow-up question.
That said, at least the US has debates where there is an opportunity for people to look at both candidates debating toe to toe. It isn't perfect and should be improved on, particularly the point about the moderator being able to ask followup questions.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
15 Oct 08
In his interview this morning, Farah said the candidates and moderators are tightly scripted and the only aim of the debate is to get through it withoutmaking many gaffes the media can run with. They also disallow third party candidates from participating as it would increase the likelihood of an unscripted
interaction if they allowed third party participation.