McCain's Economics policy could lead to another bail out
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
October 18, 2008 5:45pm CST
I was doing some research today about McCain's economic policy, and it is almost exactly the same as Bush/Reagan trickle down economics. The history of this economic theory has shown both positives, and negatives, but they have always ended with one very large price tag to the American people. The theory of Trickle down economics consist of cutting taxes for the wealth Americans, in hopes that they will reinvest in America, thus creating jobs, and building the economy. But, one of the side effects of this theory is huge deficits, and the introduction of Socialism into our government. This theory has been tried twice in the last 25 years, both times our economy has experienced an increase in revenue, and an increase in wealth for those that received the tax cuts, but it also was followed by a big fall. Two other negatives of this theory is large deficits, and the use of tax payer dollars to save the economy from the lack of responsibility of corporate American. Both times this theory has been tried, they ended in huge bail out for corporate America. Now, John McCain feels that this theory just hasn't been done right yet, so he wants to try it again. What do you think about this?
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
22 Oct 08
"This theory has been tried twice in the last 25 years, both times our economy has experienced an increase in revenue, and an increase in wealth for those that received the tax cuts."
"But, one of the side effects of this theory is huge deficits"
Consider the above 2 facts together. Do you not see the contradiction? The Reagan-Bush tax policy caused the deficits? If revenue increased, then only increased spending could cause the huge deficits, which indeed did happen. The problem is not that particular tax policy, but a House & Senate that for every $1 in new revenue increases spending by $1.81 back in the 1980's. I hate to think how bad that ratio would be today.
We have legislators so afraid of having to get a real job after being voted out of office they won't tell any organized block of voters, "NO". That is the problem.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
24 Oct 08
Red, You are correct that the spending during both times caused these huge deficits. But, what we all know about Washington is nothing is free, you always have to give to get, and that is why you get spending increase, when you get tax decreases. Compasionate conservatives like Bush, wouldn't continue PayGo, because they didn't want to be handcuffed when it came to spending. Under Clinton, when you spent one dollar, you had to cut one dollar from somewhere else, this created a budget surplus (that Bush quickly took care of). Why should the legislators get a real job when they can continue to act like crooks, and make REAL money doing so. I remember hearing Trent Lott saying that he was not going to run for reeleciton because he wanted to make some money. Trent Lott is now a lobbist.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
24 Oct 08
Yes, the problem ultimately is that we voters send undisiplined weak willed people to represent us. Too bad everyone is not willing to give up something at the same time without expecting anything in return except a balanced budget.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
24 Oct 08
BTW: I'm not happy with Bush on his spending or his policy about the country's borders.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
22 Oct 08
Well, I don't know a lot about the economy but I don't think all of our problems are because of Bush. Both parties are to blame for this mess but I think mostly the Democrats and their forcing banks to make sub prime loans to people with bad credit and low wages.
I'm better off than I was eight years ago. I have enjoyed the Bush tax cuts and I'm by no means wealthy. I live within my means.
I'm convinced Obama is a socialist who wants to "spread the wealth around" and I don't agree taking money away from people who are rich and give it to the poor. The rich have earned that money and it gives no incentive for those who are poor to be more successful. That is just my opinion and I could be wrong. But I think McCain's plan makes more sense.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
24 Oct 08
Piasabird, thank you for your response. I have to disagree with you on this subject. Under our current tax policy, people that make over $250,000 are taxed more (by percentage) than someone who makes $10,000. Thus, our current tax policy is SOCIALISM, we are taking more money from the rich, and giving it to people that have children, or make less than a certain amount. I understand that people don't like the word "Socialism", but if you look at the $1.3 TRILLION dollars that we have spent in the last month on Private losses, from Public companies, you start to wonder why it is that the government has to pick up the bill from all of these bad investment made by men that were making hundreds of millions of dollar the last ten years. If you think that all of the sub prime loans caused this crisis then you need to look at the number of forclosures, and the income levels of some of them. There are houses in the millions of dollars being forclosed on, and I can tell you right now, that those houses weren't bought by people with bad credit, or part of the sub prime. Republicans have tried to blame Democrats that gave lenders tax breaks to provide loans to people with lower credit numbers, and in inner cities. Even the economist have said that these loans weren't even a big part of the problem, as a matter of fact many of these loans are in better shape then the other loans. I understand that you are doing better today, but the vast majority of Americans, are not, and the polls show that. We have tried Trickle Down Economics for the last 8 years, and it has led to two recessions, and a $1.3 + Trillion dollar bail out. Do you actually think that doing this for the next 4 years is a good idea? No offense, but your statement at the begining of your post about not knowing alot about the economy has proven itself to be correct.
@matt0707 (43)
• United States
22 Oct 08
I think that free market economics could work well, but that isn't what really happens. Like right now, the banks get into trouble because of their irresponsible lending practices, but then we bail them out. We privatize their profits and publicize their losses, so they have no incentive to fix their lending policies because they know that they will never have to really pay for their problems.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
24 Oct 08
Thanks for your response Matt. I couldn't agree with you more about the privatizing their profits, and Publicizing their loses. This is the second time this has happened in the last 25 years, and both times republicans were in office. Do we really want 4 more years of this?