Should hazing be part of the initiation rite of Fraternities and Sororities?

forgive me, but what exactly is hazing, I THINK I understand...but I'm not positive.

The initiation ceremony is set by the national organizations and can't include anything like hazing. I'm guessing you are referring to hazing during the pledge process which you have to get through to get to initiation. Hazing can occur with any group, not just greek organizations, and there's way more than just the physical. Emotional abuse is more likely to occur as it's less traceable. Things like circling fat, drilling on organization history, info on members is all considered hazing. There are very serious consequences for getting caught, like disbanding the group. And it's not just the college that punishes the group, the national organization does an investigation. It's serious to loose a chapter but it's better than the bad press from a group that's irresponsible. I'm in a sorority and we weren't hazed at all. Most of the women's groups on campus didn't do anything that could be near hazing. The men are a different story, but most of the stuff was dumb and inconvenient more than anything dangerous. And I would say the most dangerous stuff they did was drink a ton. Hazing is just stupid. Why be mean to people you are trying to create a lifelong bond with? The definitions are way too vague. We had to get permission to do a scavenger hunt that taught us about each of the sisters because scavenger hunts fall under the blanket definition of hazing. Part of the definition is "engaging in buffoonery." So vague. I don't understand how anyone would tolerate physical abuse like you are describing.

for me, hazing shouldn't be part of Fraternities or Sororities, but, it's our fault who deserved it, because we want to be part of the organization. hazing for me is bad, but they say that you have to experience what they had experienced during their time.

I think it's pretty much distasteful. I've seen my friends who were taken very good care of by their parents and saw them in their worst. The abuse was too much for me to even see my friends in that state and i think hazing should be stop. I decided not to join fraternities because i was already on my 3rd year in college when i thought i want it. Most of my friends belong to a fraternity and i see no difference. I guess it's just the lousy thinking of the one who created hazing made this culture even more stupid. It's like i will beat you but you won't and can't beat me. We'll look for someone else for you to beat but definitely not me. How stupid is that?

I dont find any logical reasons why hazing is a way of welcoming or initiating new members of a fraternity/sorority.I would always want my children to join different school activities or a community organization for them to gain self-confidence and to boost their morale but how can somebody explain to them that physical pain must be inflicted first before considering them as a true-blooded member.I find it so barbaric.