Lobbyist give gifts to elected officials.

United States
October 20, 2008 12:18pm CST
We all know lobbyist and special interest groups give "gifts" to our elected officials. But should this be legal? Now the law just states that all "gifts" have to disclosed so everyone knows about them. They are also not suppost to over $50.00 but that law has so many loopholes that it really does no good. But really isn't this a form of bribery?"I give you a fancy vacation or high priced golf membership and you vote the way I want you to". "If you do not vote the way I want on this bill, I will not give millions for your re-election campaign". Why do we need lobbyist and special interest groups involved with our elected officials at all? I feel they need to outlawed completely from our government . Of coure as private citizens they have the right to call or write their elected official to tell them how they feel about an issue (just like any other citizen). But they should not have the right to bribe or black mail our elected officials to get what they want. What do you think?
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@4magoo (396)
20 Oct 08
As far as I am concerned we would be a lot better off without them. I also don't understand how these people can get away with all the gifts they take. I remember one recent one where Palin accepted a $1200 gold nugget from the mining industry before helping to push through a mining referendum. I work for the Department of Defense Overseas Schools and we are NOT ALLOWED to take the free teacher give aways when kids buy books in the Scholastic book club. What a double standard.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
20 Oct 08
You're not kidding, a double standard! I worked for the Post Office for 18 years and "technically" we weren't allowed to take gifts at Christmas time from our patrons. Annie
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• United States
20 Oct 08
Then why don't we as American citizens who vote and pay these people pay checks stand up and demand it. We are the ones in charge. Not them. It is time they were reminded of that.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Oct 08
I think that it promotes bribery basically. It stinks that the lobbiest get their bills past and the bills that need to be passed get no attention at all. I know that we will never see a bill outlawing gift giving to elected officals but it sure would be nice.
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• United States
20 Oct 08
I say instead of outlawing gift giving, out law the lobbyist and special interest groups. They are a bunch of corrupt people bribing the government to do what is in there best interest instead of what is in the peoples best interest. Not to mention we need to start electing people who actually will not take the bribes and tell them to go to you know were. It would go a long to stopping the problem if we have elected officials that had a good sense of what ethics were. The Senators are just as guilty as the lobbyist because they take the bribes and vote how they want.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
20 Oct 08
Lilwonders, you will probably disagree with me but I believe that lobbyist and special interest groups have their place. Let us say there is an issue you fell strongly about. You decide to join with others that fell the same way, you have just become a special interest group. Your group gets big enough now your group start pressuring politicians to vote the way your group wants them to do, your group is now lobbying. Now yes there is a wrong side to this coin. Buying votes through gifts is not a good thing. All I am saying is painting all special interest groups and their lobbying with the same paint brush is not wise, but that is just the opinion of a woman that is apart of a couple special interest groups.
• United States
21 Oct 08
I agree that citizens should let their elected officials know how they feel about issues and bring up things that may not be getting enough attention. But I do feel that bulling, bribes or blackmail should not be part of it. It is unethical. They system is being corrupted and not used properly. You have to agree that the system of lobbyist and special interest groups is currently very broken. It needs a severe overhaul at the least. But honestly I do not think that they should get speical treatment. They already have a voice, they get to vote and write or call their elected officials to tell them what they think. When you add in "gifts" like these it just makes it a game of whoever has the most money gets the laws they want passed, no matter what is right or wrong. The American public may pay our elected officials salaries but they are bought and paid for by lobbyist and special interest groups. They no longer work for us, they work for who ever gives the best gifts.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
22 Oct 08
I don't know why this practice was ever allowed to start, let alone continue and get to the point it is now. I for one would be all for starting an effort to outlaw lobbying completely, or I should say these kinds of gifts from lobbyists. There are some lobbying groups that actually represent the voters but more the most part they're from special interest groups and major corporations. The majority of people who leave Congress or other elected positions go directly to work with a lobbying firm. Phil Gramm, currently a high official in the McCain campaign, is the perfect example. He left the Senate several years ago and went to work lobbying for big banking. Now he's writing McCain's economic plan. Gee, whose interests do you think he has in mind...lol? This has got to stop! Annie
• United States
22 Oct 08
There is a law that says they have to wait a year after leaviing office to become a lobbyist but no one is enforcing it. I complete agree. I do not know how it got this point but it needs to stop. I am sure there are good lobbyist groups out there that are following the rules and honestly trying to bring issues that help the people to our governments attention, but unforunately the majoritity is making them all look bad. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac hired a lobbyist a few years ago (about 4 or 5 years ago)to stop a bill the put regulations on them and the rest of the mortgage companies. THey spend millions on this lobbyist to make sure the bill did not go through. Now look at this mess we are in with the mortgage crisis all because the lobbyist got a huge majority of both sides not to vote for the bill. I wonder what they gave these senators not to vote for it. If that would not have happened the bill would have passed and we might have been spared a lot of nightmare we are in now. I can find the article on it so you read it yourself if you like.
• United States
21 Oct 08
This is a good discussion. I don't think that we should have lobbyist, and I don't think that anyone should be able to donate to political campaigns. Just like you said, lobbyist basicly bribe our elected officals, and if they do what they want them to do they get great gifts, and they don't have to worry about raising money for thei reelection. I personally feel that we should give all candidates the same amount of money, and give them free TV time. But, that is just my opinion.
• United States
25 Oct 08
I just think that if you level the playing field, then you select the best person for the job, not person that is the best a raising money.
• United States
21 Oct 08
That is a great idea. Both sides gets the same amount and free air time. THen the public decides who they want. Right now it is whoever has the most money gets to buy the election.
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• India
22 Oct 08
Giving and receiving gifts is an old tradition. lobyists over do it. Elected representatives shoudl not accept gifts as it undermines their office.
@quinnkl (1667)
• United States
21 Oct 08
I think lobbyists and personal interest groups are what is wrong with the government or at least congress in the US today. In my opinion it is bribery and to think that our elected officials are basing votes and opinions on these groups instead of the wants and needs of the citizens that elected them is just not right.