Facts, Who Needs Them? Certainly Not Obama Supporters!!!
By rodney850
@rodney850 (2145)
United States
October 21, 2008 8:17am CST
Very little can be done to persuade someone to a different position if their mind is made up and set in a totally opposite direction. Friends lose friends, relationships become strained and partnerships can be dissolved. This is very true in the political arena. This year we vote to elect a new president and from the polls we are going to elect a man who by all standards is too inexperienced(even stated emphatically by his running mate)is as liberal as they come and has far too many shady friends and associates in his past and present. These are facts, but, to the "blinded by the Obamalites" facts just don't matter, change is what matters. As the following article informs, ALL change is not necessarily good. Please read the entire article as it brings up some good and valid points, even if you are an Obama supporter.
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/10/20/believers_in_obama
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
22 Oct 08
This reminds me so much of the story of the Emperor and his new clothes. For those that don't know it, it goes something like this.
An emperor who cares too much about clothes hires two swindlers who promise him the finest suit of clothes from the most beautiful cloth. This cloth, they tell him, is invisible to anyone who was either stupid or unfit for his position. The Emperor cannot see the (non-existent) cloth, but pretends that he can for fear of appearing stupid; his ministers do the same. When the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they dress him in mime. The Emperor then goes on a procession through the capital showing off his new "clothes". During the course of the procession, a small child cries out, "But he has nothing on!" The crowd realizes the child is telling the truth. The Emperor, however, holds his head high and continues the procession. (courtesy of Wiki).
Obama is a smooth talker who is pulling the wool over everyone's eyes and ppl are too blinded to see what the truth is...when someone finally speaks up and is heard, chances are it'll be too late...we'll be stuck with 4 years of him and his cronies.
[b]~~IN SEARCH OF PEACE WITHIN~~
**AGAINST THE STORMS, I WILL STAND STRONG** [/b]
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
22 Oct 08
In the modern version of the Emperor's new clothes, the crowd beats the kid up for disrespecting the Emperor while never admitting the kid is right.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
21 Oct 08
Once again Sowell is right on the mark. There are a lot of people that are blinded by their hatred of Bush and the lies of 0bama.
If they ever discover the truth, it will be after the fact, and after the damage has been done.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
21 Oct 08
Destiny,
Thanks for the comment.
I pray, my friend, that this is not how the learning experience goes this time!
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
22 Oct 08
Thomas Sowell, one very brave, intelligent, thoughtful man. Too bad no political party dare run him for office, he's too honest and smart for them!
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
22 Oct 08
This is ridiculous, both sides are equally blind. You say that people who support Obama are blind because they support him but you are just as blind because you will never see their point of view. So you are just as blind as they are. You talk crap about him being a socialist when none of you know what a real socialist is. A socialist believes in the state owning the means of production and that is all that makes them socialist.
What you are calling socialism are policies that are trying to offer social justice and that is not socialism since socialism doe not believe in social justice any more than capitalists do. Social justice is liberalism.
If you don't believe me go and read your dictionary.
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
22 Oct 08
People are saying socialism when they perhaps mean socialist leaning, or something like that. But you are not fully correct in your explanation, either. And I DID look it up. Unfortunately, I don't have time to type it all in right now, and I am not yet able to paste. But try answer.com for starters.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
22 Oct 08
I did look up this site, and it said the same thing. I was not quoting word for word. It said "Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy."
That only difference is that is includes collective ownership. Since I was talking about the attitude that Obama was a socialist that implied that we were talking about him trying to have the government own the means of production etc. He is not even interested in doing this. The communist countries tried it and found it did not work.
There is a BIG difference between socialism and social justice. Social justice is ensuring that every body is cared for. It is not about making everyone equal just ensuring that those at the top do not get everything and those at the bottom get enough to survive. It seems to me that all the people here who scream about socialism are really saying that they object to social justice and I find that to be a very callous attitude.
@Ldyjarhead (10233)
• United States
22 Oct 08
Sadly, I think that things have gone way too far to come back around at this lap in the race. People have been swayed by debonair and smooth talk and aren't willing to even stop and look at what is behind all that.
I still wish the Republican Party had been able to come up with something better, with the strength to come up against him. I don't McCain/Palin is necessarily the right team, but I think it's the better of the two in my humble (if archaic) beliefs.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
21 Oct 08
Thanks, Rodney. What bothers me is that people don't seem to understand that Obama is a socialist.
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of a society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.
Isn't that what Obama wants? Redistribution of wealth? That's socialism, right?
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
21 Oct 08
Kenzie,
thanks for the comment.
What I seem to be gleaning from all my posts and comments from the left leaning here on MyLot is that they simply don't care if he is a card carrying socialist. The rich have been rich far too long and someone should do something about it, now! No one seems to stop and think about the consequences and historical facts about socialism which are bleak, which is a gross understatement!
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
21 Oct 08
Just another great column written by Thomas Sowell. Thank you Rodney for posting this column for I might have missed the chance to read it. Thomas's comparison between a bad love affair and Obama is very close to the truth. Obama supporter believe that Obama is the greatest thing to come to this country since sliced bread, yet when pressed why either say they do not want four more years of Bush or they just like what Obama says. Whether McCain is or is not going to be another four years Bush cannot be proven no more than what comes out of the mouth of Obama. Take for instance Obama's tax plan, just words, there is not any proof that Obama will act on his plan. The whole issue over change is a dangerous one, because sometimes the status quo is just better than the change. Just ask all the people the Communist killed in Russia. Sure Czarist Russia was not the greatest situation but history prove that the Czars were better than the dictator.
If Obama wins time will show we were right.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
21 Oct 08
Gewcew,
Thanks for the comment.
I agree, change comes in many forms and if we examine the record of Barack Obama he has never been more than an ultra-left liberal "yes" man! He thwarted every effort in Illinois to make teachers accountable for their quality because he didn't want to alienate the teachers union. It is a voting record like this that leads me to believe that we just may get "change" from Obama if he is elected but the true word will be SHORT-CHANGED!
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
21 Oct 08
Excellent points. Every time someone points out true, and important FACTS about Obama, his supporters say it's "negative" and that it's an attempt to link Obama to bad things, when it is actually a FACT that he IS LINKED to those things.
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21 Oct 08
People by their very nature are always selective of the facts they absorb dependant on their world view, for any man it is almost impossible to remain completly objective as our subconcious often completly ignores excessivly contradictory information without rational thought and a proper understanding of both arguments behind determining what is true and false. Ultimatly objective empathy is a skill few people posses in all cases, falling guilty to being judgemental and prideful in their own views, without realising that no person posseses the 'truth' more than any other person, there always remains the doubt that their world view is completly wrong, built on faulty premises and a poor understanding of critical thinking can lead even seemingly intellegent people into poor belief systems. The full truth is rarely understood, if at all.