Barack Obama -- a picture of his administration?
By thedogshrink
@thedogshrink (1266)
United States
October 27, 2008 4:11pm CST
Barack Obama is so NOT what he says he is. It is easy enough to find that out -- read his own books, listen to his WORDS instead of the beautiful way he puts them together. Far from being racist, I think most Americans are quite "ready" for an African American president. The problem is, Barack Obama is NOT THE RIGHT MAN! America cannot afford racism in the White House, whether from whites to blacks -- or from blacks to whites.
America cannot afford a change to SOCIALISM or Marxism. America cannot afford a White House that does NOT share the values and traditions of the majority of Americans.
READ his book, THINK about what you are doing. READ my post entitled Barack Obama for President of the US for more details!
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15 responses
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I totally agree - people are not actually listening to what he is saying - they are hearing change, change change - and they don't go further to investigate just what he is saying and the impact it will have on our country. The main change I can see happening is that we would have an African American President - other than that it's all rhetoric.
Obama keeps saying that McCain is just more of Bush - which is absolutely not true. Other than a few minor differences in opinion, I actually see Obama as more of what we have had for the past eight years - corruption, overspending and partisan politics.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
The RNC bought clothes for the Palin family for 3 specific days' worth of functions. Nothing unusual about that if we are honest. What they did NOT tell you is that the money was spent to buy a bunch of clothes and shoes for the whole family in a variety of sizes because the Palins were NOT involved in the shopping. So at least $50,000 was returned, never worn. Today they announced the actual amount was more like $50,000 anyway, not 150,000. Anyway, the ones they wore were for specific functions, and NOT theirs to keep. Once the functions were over, they are put up for auction and the proceeds donated to charity. Gov Palin's clothing mostly comes from a CONSIGNMENT shop in AK. They are "higher end" second hand clothes, according to the shop owner.
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
28 Oct 08
trtgirl31 - I find it interesting that you would compare the $50,000 of clothing that Sarah Palin actually wore - provided by the RNC and not purchased by her with campaign funds - with the millions of dollars that Obama has spent on his campaign and especially the 2M that the is spending just on the services to be provided by the City of Chicago for his victory bash.
@Sheepie (3112)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Was this a discussion or just a rant about how we "should" vote? I think I am a person who is entitled to my own opinion, and so are you. Do you really expect everyone to agree with you, or do you just think you're going to change anyone's minds? All you're saying here is, "You are wrong and I am right" basically, and I'm just not buying that.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Actually, it is an opinion. They used to be allowed in the US. It's my opinion, and the opinion of many. And I offered two sources -- my other post, which give more detail, and Obama's first autobiography -- for anyone who wants to check out how I came to my opinion.
I'm a red blooded American, so of course, I will tell you this: You are WELCOME to POST your opinion. I did not attack you or anyone on Mylot. It is a site for opinions.
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@SteveSlaton (552)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I assure you that Colin Powell is also a red blooded American, a veteran, a past commanding General of the Pentagon, and past Secretary of State, and he's still a Republican, and he's a pretty smart guy, and he is on record of abandoning McCain and is supporting Obama.
Right here at myLot you can find an Associated Press article on Powell's endorsement of Obama and many responses including mine.
@SteveSlaton (552)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Colin Powell endorses Barack Obama for president
Associated Press 19 October 2008.
http://www.mylot.com/w/newsarticle/1412860.aspx?p=1#2_4807791
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
27 Oct 08
In a little over 30 years whites will be a minority. I think it will be sooner. I do not care what color my president is. However, his values concern me a lot. White have hurt their own race. They don't support each other. They delve off in other areas so they are not together on important issues. A lot of the coming generations have too many people who didn't/don't take education seriously. Thus, you can imagine how many people who are voting for Obama don't even know what the words Socialism or Marxism mean. They just know that Obama is a "cool" guy who can dance and try to act like he is one of them. If he is one of them do they live in a million dollar home? Do their children go to private schools? Did they go to Harvard?
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Dogshrink, this is true. And these people who want change do not have the capacity to think about this.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Yesthey, you are so right. I'm still waiting to hear HOW Obama became a millionaire -- he didn't do it on a community organizer's salary. If he were really like us, he wouldn't be trying to pass himself and his policies off as "change", because he thinks we don't know any better. But you're right, too, that I am afraid a LOT of people don't even understand what that means -- that's why Biden reacted so strongly to Barbara West's question, because she quoted Karl Marx, which Biden says paints a clearer picture of what they mean by socialism.
Socialism, Marxism, Communism: they have connections to each other; they have a dark, nasty history, and they also have a long history of FAILING TO WORK!!!!
Our system is not purely capitalist. Regulations are needed, and some social programs are needed. But socialism is not a benevolent, gentle, easy way of "spreading the wealth". It never has played out that way.
And has no one stopped to UNDERSTAND what that $250,000 income line means? It is NOT the big corporations who will be hurt. It is the small 1-5 person businesses that would fall into that group. That $250,000- $300,000 they bring in has to go not only for that business owner's sole income, but also to payroll and payroll taxes and social security. Do you realize that your employer pays a portion of your social security? It is NOT just the part you see taken out of your paycheck, but the employer has to pay more on top of that for each person who works for them. This "spreading the wealth" will crush the small businesses which are the backbone of our country.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I think whites are pretty close to being the minority now - that is why we're seeing the "majority" for Obama - they want "one of their own" elected President regardless of his/her qualifications.
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@shoffman2000 (560)
• Alexandria, Virginia
27 Oct 08
we all need to vote the pa case was dismissed on standing so the never visited the merits of the birth certificate Maybe Obama is not born US I have a birth certificate why is obama so about producing his?
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Yes, I am OUTRAGED over Obama's refusal to allow scrutiny of all the areas of his life that all presidential candidates have always had to allow. But I am even MORE outraged at that judge, who said the PEOPLE, the VOTERS, did not have standing to question the validity of a candidate's eligibility!!!! That is a complete slap in the face to the Constitution, and the American people! It is government OF, BY, and FOR the PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! Everyone should send letters and phone calls to their Secretary of State, Judge Surrick, and their newspapers.
This is no longer about whether a birth certificate is forged. This is about the US Constitution, and the FACT that the PEOPLE of this COUNTRY do indeed have a right to questions ANYTHING, especially the eligibility of a presidential candidate to actually be president according to the Constitution. Oh, it is being appealed the the Supreme Court, so we should all write to that court as well.
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@SteveSlaton (552)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Fellow Earthling,
I have already voted against McCain by voting for Obama here in Colorado where early voting is an option. I also registered over a hundred people since last winter.
To me the big question is: Are you ready for WWIII? If so, McCain is your man. Vote for him and try, as you are trying, to get others to vote your way. That's the "contest" charade we are playing in (for now.)
Regardless of who wins, I think we need to focus on multiple amendments to our Constitution to end the abuses of power, starting with taking the money out of political races, and ending the corrupt 2-party system.
Let me be clear: I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican. I am a promoter of responsible freedom for all people, everywhere on Earth.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
27 Oct 08
There is no evidence to support the assertion that McCain will cause WWIII! Obama has pounded in that he wants to withdraw from Iraq in order to gear up the war in Afghanistan. He has angered Canada already (not that I'm saying Canada would attack us, but we don't need to lose friends)!! They've issued statements. He's said he would invade Pakistan, and I believe he also made reference to "taking out Iran". Why do his supporters ignore these comments, some which were very, very irresponsible? Or are you one of those who have told me Obama is "just saying" that war stuff to get elected? If he is lying to that degree, that is NOT the man to have in the White House.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
27 Oct 08
LOL!! Steve: that commercial with the missile did NOT mean McCain wants war!!!! He was saying an inexperienced President could lead us to war!!!!! Totally the OPPOSITE of how you are using it!
i'll go watch your youtube now.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I'd personally like to see all the money spent on these campaigns to be spent on something more worthwhile!
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@Sam41855 (26)
• United States
27 Oct 08
He is so self-centered and self-involved.........efverything must go HIS way. The reporter in Florida who DARED to ask Joe (Schmoe) Biden some straight questions which the media should have been asking all along sent him running.......so the Obama campaign banned that TV station from now on!!!!........Kind of makes you think of a kid who doesn't get his way in the game so he "picks up his marbles and runs home"! This is a far more serious election than a game of marbles.......not to be taken lightly. So think carefully and talk to anyone and everyone you know, people.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Very true. I heard a quote from Biden today, and I'm looking for it again so I can post it correctly. But basically, they banned that stations because they felt bringing up the name Karl Marx was going to have a negative impact on people's minds!
Ya think??????
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I thought it was very interesting after the Democrats have made the accusation that Palin was being withheld from the media - as well as accusations that both McCain and Palin were avoiding media questioning - that Obama now gets bent out of shape when Biden is asked a couple of questions.
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@genihanna (358)
• United States
28 Oct 08
It is so NOT RIGHT for you to belittle people here on mylot for their choice for a candidate. Keep your coercive opinions to yourself or post them on your own personal blog or website. I find it extremely offensive as I'm sure many others do!
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
I don't know what posts you've been reading, but I have NOT belittled ANYONE.
Nothing I have written is COERCIVE either!!!!
If you are offended by someone having a different opinion from yours, then I guess you will definitely enjoy an Obama Presidency -- til you find out YOUR different opinion is not acceptable.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
28 Oct 08
We also don't want a president who doesn't believe in the Constitution and thinks it is flawed.
0bama is anti-American and hates everything wee stand for.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I'm assuming your response is sarcasm -- correct me if I'm wrong.
I didn't say ANYTHING so sensational, and I in no way think Obama will blow up buildings or kill babies. I DO think he plans to take us in a direction that most Americans would NOT want to go, but he is covering it, just enough, with pretty words and euphemisms.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I think there are many who will be deeply disappointed if/when he is elected - I don't believe he can fulfill all the promises he has made and a lot will become disenchanted quickly when the wealth doesn't get spread in their direction!
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@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Questions:
1. Can you define "socialism" and "Marxism" and explain how they differ?
2. Are you in favor of eliminating all socialized institutions in the USA?
Let's see if you understand what you're saying, or if you're just parroting talking points.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
28 Oct 08
They are both forms of communism and therefore any perceived difference is meaningless.
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
LOL! I don't write about talking points. It is very telling, for anyone who is not sure, if you read what is written under socialism and Marxism on Dictionary.com and on Answer.com you will be well enlightened.
Socialism is basically that system that is used to guide people farther along the continuum to Marxism and communism. In Socialism, the government owns/controls the wealth, and as you go farther along, owns/controls the means for making the wealth. It is a continuum -- or some might say a "slippery slope" -- esp when people are unaware of their leaders' propensity towards socialism and more. Marxism seeks to remove the class differences and have a "classless" society. Of course, in practice have ANY of us ever seen such a society where there aren't at least TWO classes: those in control and the rest of us? Those in control live quite well, but the rest not so much. Both systems have NEVER worked, as in NEVER produced a society that FLOURISHED.
If you cannot HEAR this in the things Obama is saying, ESPECIALLY in some of the past interviews that are coming to light, some even this week, you are deaf.
Am I in favor of eliminating all socialized institutions in the USA? NO, I'm not. s I said in another discussion, we are not a purely capitalist society, nor should we be. I think it is good for the government to manage such things as roads/infrastructure. Some regulation is NEEDED on our markets as the DEMOCRATS, including Obama, just demonstrated to us when they BLOCKED the attempts of Hagel and McCain and yes, even George W Bush to REGULATE Fanny and Freddie in order to PREVENT the situation we are in NOW. We don't need too much regulation. But we do need regulation, esp those that prevent people like Chris Dodd, Barack Obama, etc from enjoying the goodies from organizations like Fanny and Freddy while BLOCKING all attempts to regulate their golden goose, finally allowing it to run itself into the ground.
I also believe in a free education, provided by the government (taxes), BUT I am NOT so much for public schools, and more for that money to go to private schools of the PARENT's choice.
Well, that should be enough for you to catch my drift...
@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
28 Oct 08
As for the first question: okay, "parroting talking points" it is.
You didn't answer the second question, though. Yes or no?
@mcat19 (1357)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I think the most dangerous thing for this country is another 4 years of Republican rule. We see how well off we are after 8 years of Bush. McCain backed him over 90% of the time. By the time he left office we would be totally destroyed as a country. I'm for a new vision and a new leader and a new direction. Trickle down economics has never worked. Obama shares my values and I'm a good American, too.
@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Totally destroyed country? America? How about if we send you to a country that has experienced war in their very own country? You will see what it really means...
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
27 Oct 08
What do you see as being the most noticeable changes that Obama will make as President?
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@taripres (1499)
• United States
28 Oct 08
I don't know about this post! But if anyone been reading my other political posts, u know my stance! Well, any one of these cats gets in there, we better look out! Say whatcha want, it's not getting any better, REGARDLESS!!!
Taripre$
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
The only post I saw from you on politics recently was about Bill Cosby for President.
It sounds like you don't like either Obama or McCain. Is there someone who was/is actually running that you do like? Or which do you think is the lesser of the two evils, then between McCain and Obama?
@taripres (1499)
• United States
28 Oct 08
Me, personally , I've never been a big political person at all, I didn't even care too much about Social Studies in grammar school, though Ben Hur was a great movie:)!
Since ur making me choose for the sake of discussion, I'll go with the dark Robin Hood; ironic as it may sound, I haven't heard about him dippin in the cookie jar, the others have and can't seem to get on the same page! We have enough confusion going on without some bickering dingbats adding to it!
Taripre$
@trtgirl31 (9)
• United States
28 Oct 08
There is obviously a conservative lean to most of the users on this website. And I think it is interesting that people believe they can change other people's opinions by saying inflammatory things about one candidate or the other. Personally, I am a democrat who fervently supports Barack Obama, and am not ashamed to admit it. I also will admit that I can not possibly understand why anyone would be a Republican. However, I am sure you all have your reasons, most of which I probably dont agree with. Conservative rantings about liberal Obama will not change my mind about anything. And ideas about "socialism and marxism" (which are not the same thing) will not scare me into supporting John McCain. The only way someone will truly change is by their own self reflection and decision. Political beliefs are a personal decision that should be made on facts and one's own values and ideas, not someone yelling at you on mylot. Plus, a statement like "America cannot afford a White House that does NOT share the values and traditions of the majority of Americans" is simply ignorant. #1- You have no evidence that the majority of Americans think like you do, and #2- We'll see on election day, won't we??
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
First, I didn't yell at ANYONE on mylot.
Second, I didn't say the majority of Americans think like I do, however, now that you mention is, Yes, the polls show that 84% of Americans prefer an economic policy built on growing opportunities rather than "spreading the wealth".
I KNOW socialism and Marxism are different, but if you read Obama's book -- since you feel people should make their decisions based on facts -- you will find he mentions being "drawn" to socialism, and Karl Marx. That is what I was referring to.
Unfortunately, this post did not come out right when I started the discussion. The tone of my post would have been different, if I had realized the picture I was trying to upload was not going to show up. The picture would have made my words make more sense.
Nevertheless, there is nothing wrong with what I wrote; I didn't yell at anyone, and I have not minused or yelled at anyone who has responded that I didn't agree with.
@trtgirl31 (9)
• United States
28 Oct 08
I'm sorry for offending you- the post I wrote before was partly a response to your original topic and partly a response to what others had written. The end did become very biting and it was innapropriate.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
28 Oct 08
McCain is more moderate than true Conservative.
Obama is nowhere near moderate and instead the far left liberal.
I was referring people to read his book. Did you read and UNDERSTAND it?
Are you also a Socialist? If you are, that's fine. Your choice.
But I want people to be SURE they really agree with Obama's REAL agenda before they vote for him.
That's all I am asking.
@SteveSlaton (552)
• United States
21 Nov 08
Breaking news: I just heard on TV news today, 21 November, 2008, that Hillary Clinton has accepted Obama's offer for the Secretary of State Cabinet nomination.
People must remember that all Cabinet-to-the-President positions must be approved by the Senate.
Since I consider the Clintons as part of the Age of Reagan, I do not find this as encouraging... My hope is still that Obama will end the Age of Reagan... That task just got harder assuming Hillary becomes Secretary of State.
Steve Slaton
P.S. My condolences to the McCain supporters. I watched McCain's concession speech and call for y'all to take McCain's advise and unite behind, and support, our President-elect Obama.