Islam - religion of Peace, or Fear ?

@hellcord (673)
Romania
October 28, 2008 7:34am CST
Recently I came in contact with some Muslim people here on myLot, and we had some healthy discussions, though not always in agreement. That is all good, however it struck me how FAR the Islamic approach is to most things, from a true Religion of Peace. Knowing full well that this might just be a wrong impression on my part, I decided to ask you fellow myLotters, what you think on this topic: IS Islam truly a Religion of PEACE, or more often a Religion of FEAR? Personally I am leaning toward the second one. But this is not abouit my opinion. So to get the ball rolling, I have here 2 situations, taken from Wikipedia. Please read this and see the Islamic response http://tinyurl.com/cltsd http://tinyurl.com/hysao Had to make these tiny, as I can't yet copy/paste. Far from me to debate and question the truth of Allah's existence, that's not the point here. Regardless of how much truth there is in the Quran, I am focusing here on how reasonable it is to call such a religion, one of Peace. Peace everybody :)
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@Gordano (795)
• United States
29 Oct 08
Islam is Indeed the religion of Peace, The word Islam itself means "submittion to God" it is Arabic word taken from the same root of The word Salam = Peace. Your two articles above are related to each other, Unnamed danish newspaper and unnamed writer wanted to become famous, They found no better way than to Insult Islam, after the reaction of Muslims all over the world they became famous and all the world heared about them, and the mission accomplished. In My opinion the Muslims reaction was wrong from the beginning Because Muslims didn't Ignore Them according to the teachings of The Holy Quran: [025:063] And the servants of (God) Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, "Peace!"; If Muslims Obeyed The teachings of The Holy Quran You would never Hear about the two Unnamed newspaper and the writer. In my opinion you will know Nothing valuable by starting a poll Like that, Muslims will tell you That Islam is the Religion of Peace, while people who hate Islam will tell you that Islam is the Religion of fear, I have started a discussion about Islam Can Help in understanding Islam If you want to learn about Islam the Discussion can be reached at http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1765908.aspx Thanks and Best Regards
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• United States
29 Oct 08
Most all religions, if not ALL, were first conceived in the light of inspiration, but still have at their core the dis-ease of fear. What all religions refer to when they use the word "God" can only be experienced when the heart is open to Love and Joy... right here, right now, in the Present Moment. Not rigid and closed and hating your 'brother', obsequiously (and vainly) surrendering your own desire for the promise of rewards in the hereafter. Not my cuppa tea thanks! But each to his own. Namaste my friend.
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
29 Oct 08
Hi Gordano, thanks for voting, with that, the score is now Fear 3 Peace 2 Now to reply: So you say that the Quran speaks of Peace, but that the Muslims are spreading fear because they ignore it, or interpret it wrongly, is that correct ? That would mean Islam is a religion of Peace, but (at least some) muslims are spreaders of Fear. Is that correct? Finally, some Fatwas were issued by Islamic leaders, to KILL people who speak critically of Islam. In my mind, If I started speaking critically of Buddha or his teachings, there might be replies, but I doubt an actual Buddhist LEADER would publicly put a RANSOM on my HEAD. Do you agree that's very unlikely? Now on starting this poll, I think there is MUCH that can be gained from it, because here we can see the reasoning of everybody, how they support their vote, and how much sense everybody makes. Peace :)
@ford_mts (232)
• India
31 Oct 08
Actually Muslim creating fear in hearts of innocent is not a muslim.There are black sheep in every community.They are black sheep muslims.
@seeiloveu (100)
• India
29 Oct 08
Islam is truly a religion of peace. The Creator made the Universe, the Earth and us out of love; not because He just desired to. And with it, He also send down to Earth the various religions; all of them have been laid out with a solemn warning to Obey Him and follow His laid down guidelines. As Islam is today one of the greatest religions, encompassing the world, people have begun to label it with awful, bad terms ... all of which are totally unjustified and wrong. I ask such people: Have you read your Holy Books? Read them; understand them before commenting on Islam ... You will come across a number of what the Almighty says that will definitely run counter to what you are doing right now!
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• United States
29 Oct 08
Hellcord: Is it fair that you judge Islam because of the actions of others? Do you judge Christainty when a christain goes out and commits heinous acts? What about the religious cults that killed themselves right here in the US in Waco, Texas?
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
30 Oct 08
Tynetta, yes actually I do judge some cults based on that, but most importantly I look at HOW many of the religions's followers do crazy things, HOW OFTEN crazy things come from that religion. Furthermore, if some guy starts a small sect (like in Waco) that's not the MAIN religion's view, but if the POPE would start calling for MURDERS in the name of the Church, then we'd have a BIG problem. There are Fatwas for religious MURDERS issued by official LEADERS of Islam. That's a big problem there, not some independent muslims going crazy on their own. Personally, while I have no religion myself, you will never see me having problems with Buddhists or Hindus for example. From what I've seen, they do their worship in peace and mind their own business. Not so with Islam, and you know it. Peace
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
29 Oct 08
Oh my, Fear 3 Peace 3 It seems like things are looking up for Islam :) But please tell me, have you actually READ the 2 articles in the original post ? There is a LOT of Islamic terror tactics and violence in both. Can you please comment on Islamic leaders' issuing Fatwa to KILL critics of Islam ? Are you saying that tha Fatwa (and so the Islamic leader that issued it) was WRONG ? Or if not, are you saying that a Religion of Peace officially HUNTS DOWN and looks to KILL people that disagree with it in the press? You can say that Islam is a religion of Peace, I for one will count your vote here, but I'm afraid if you have nothing to back that up, people won't really believe much of what you say, as long as Muslims have some of the most violent regimes and most murderous extremists on the planet. Looking forward to more replies on this, Peace :)
@systems (459)
• India
1 Nov 08
There is a website called thereligionofpeace.com Kindly check it.. Its Neither the words spoken Nor the books .. The thing which really matters is the Actions which are committed..
• United States
29 Oct 08
Islam is a religion of Peace and it means to submit to God. Despite the articles you have referred to you have to study Islam and there you will find its True disposition. Don't get cultures mixed up with Islam-if someone kills a female because she turned away from Islam does not mean that this is what Islam condones. It forbids the killing of any person. The Qu'ran says "Killing a person is like killing mankind".
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@hellcord (673)
• Romania
29 Oct 08
Hi ynetta, thanks for voting. With that the score is finally Fear 3 Peace 1 We count all votes fair and square here in my discussions :D My personal view is that of all mainstream religions (that I know of) Buddhism ranks highest on the PEACE factor. How come you never see Extremist Buddhists bombing people ? How come there's no Extremist Buddhist states that kill you for converting to some other faith ? It's easy to say the Quran is not to blame, but I say, if you want to see which religion is most peacefull, simple: Do a KILL COUNT. To my knowledge, Islam ranks highest :) And finally, can you comment on the LAST part of my post ? If I were to go and talk freely about my beliefs in predominant Muslim states (Pakistan, Iran, etc) would you agree that my life could be much shorter, and would probably end violently ? :D How about the Fatwa's declared by Muslim leaders, to KILL ? Do those support Peace or Fear ? Please comment, I'm looking to hear from ANY Muslim, do you support such Fatwas ? Peace :)
@ford_mts (232)
• India
31 Oct 08
In Islam extremist means a person who abide by the Law.Find one mistake in its teaching which is against humanity as a whole.
@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
29 Oct 08
Hellcord, I don't know much about this religion but all religion has its good and bad. It is you the individual to know if you will be comfortable in it. Religion is like a buying a new wardrobe, you try several until you find the one that fit. Some person will read the bible and interrupt it the way they think is correct. So it goes for the Curan. Who is there to tells what is right/wrong unless we have a close relationship with the one we decide to pray to whether it be Allah or God. Take care of yourself. Kerry
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
29 Oct 08
I agree with you, I'm not saying Islam is evil and everyone else is good, far from it. Christianity burned people as witches, persecuted scientists for saying what we now know is the truth, and so on. I'm sure all faiths have their shortcomings, and also their good side. But beyond ALL that, my question is much more simple: Given the 2 articles above, in the original post, do you think Islam stands more for Peace or for Fear (or Oppression) ? I'm looking for an answer that will either say for Peace or for Fear, as YOU see this religion, presently. Thanks :)
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
29 Oct 08
Well Hellcord, I don't think I can answer that question because people tends to fear what they don't understand. In the bible Jesus says that he is the peace maker.
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
29 Oct 08
Ok, so that's a no-vote, score stays Fear 2 Peace 0 Thanks for commenting :D
@iesel182 (17)
• Indonesia
30 Oct 08
i belive islam is religion of peace, like other religion in the world. unfotunately, some people mentioning religions (not always islam) on their acts. i think we should never bring religion to the act we did, either is bad or good. in other way, don't judge people by their religion. I also believe that there is no religion that told people to do bad things, i belive that all religion only teach good in many ways.
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• United States
31 Oct 08
I thank you for this comment- and what a wise one it is.
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@hellcord (673)
• Romania
31 Oct 08
Thank you iesel182, with your vote, we now have Fear 3 Peace 4 Of course I will count votes properly here, bu let me tell you it is VERY frustrating, to see you not commenting on either of those 2 articles in the discussion. Have you read them ? Have you seen the violence in the Offical Islamic responses, apart from the isoltated Muslim acts ? So far most votes for Peace in Islam ignore those 2 articles completely. HOW do you guys back up your votes ? Violence and massive religious oppression in many islamic states ? Women treated like property ? Anyone ? Peace. .. or something
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Granted I dont know much about Islam BUT even so..I ahve to say its a religion of BOTH peace and fear...NO DIFFERENT to Christianity....In fact IMO pretty much MOST mainstream religions are both.
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
2 Nov 08
Of course most religions are a bi of both, but see, NUMBERS count as well. ALL other religions COMBINED are responsible for under 100 deaths in the past 10 years (I mean killings performed by religious radicals, in the name of that religion) Islam has caused at least 10.000 deaths in that time. If you go to http://www.thereligionofpeace.com and open Games Muslims Play it shows some more numbers, for instance if we look all the way back to the 70's about 5 MILLION murders and atrocities have been committed IN THE NAME of islam, and religious cleansing. Now when you have THAT big a problem, I think you can safely say that NO, Islam is NOT like other religions on the fear / peace topic, it is just savagery. Again this applies only to militant sects of Islam, I understand there are peaceful ones as well.
@Harley009 (1416)
• India
4 Nov 08
Islam is fear for those who misunderstand it, and Peace for those who understand and practice it. If one whole involve heartedly in Islam, it will be peaceful indeed. The wikipedia links says about cartoon and controversy. That cartoon never depict prophet Mohammad, and it is an insult in showing him in that way. There had many protests against those cartoons. some of then gone violent and began to do something wrong, that should not have done. Salman Rushdie is a controversial figure. There are other plenty of writers against Islam too. You can see such writers against Christianity, towards the whole religions, etc. If you think it is true it's your choice. I have found truth in Islam. Cheers.
@kheealam (95)
• Pakistan
13 Dec 08
ISLAM is a religion of peace.Enough said.and BTW what is fearful about ISLAM tell me i will be ready to answer how and why.
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
13 Dec 08
www.thereligionofpeace.com - please go there and see some of the strange things that Muslims are doing. The things that are really violent and dangerous and disturbing, that's what I'm finding a bit wrong with Islam. Have you ever wondered why Islam creates most violence among the people on this planet ? Statistically I mean, on average. For comparison go and try to find on the net some other sites, that show this kind of violent and intolerant behavior coming from Buddhists for example. Cheers :D
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
13 Dec 08
hell, I'm going to raise the stakes on this one bro, and send you specifically to this page right here. Please free to comment on those 10 bad dogs over there :D www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Top-10-Reasons.htm Enjoy. And peace man, peace :)
@ethereal (106)
• Egypt
29 Oct 08
Islam is a religion of fear, intolerance and discrimination against the other. It's infuriating how Muslims demand respect and equality from the world but never give back the same. They discuss amongst themselves how superior they are and relish the fact that all non-muslims (infidels) will burn in hell forever. They are also extremely intolerant even of each other sometimes, especially towards women. I have found it very frustrating trying to have logical discussions with many muslims as they all seem to be brainwashed and always on the defensive, as they have been trained from birth NEVER to question the teachings of Islam of the words of the Koran although it has bee proven to contain many errors (for more on this visit faithfreedom international, a site by Ali Sina, an ex-muslim).
• United States
29 Oct 08
Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. We do not discriminate against other religions or beliefs. We are to invite people of other religions to Islam and if they reject then we are to leave them be. We are not force anyone to Islam and are to live peacefully amongst others. Islam does not condone the mal-treatment of women and women are to be protected, taken care of and respected. Women have rights in Islam...the prophet(pbuh)answered the question: "What right can any wife demand of her husband?" He replied, "That you should give her food when you eat, clothe her when you clothe yourself, not strike her on the face, and do not revile her or separate from her except in the house."
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
29 Oct 08
Ethereal, there are some christian churches that think the way you have describe and they are not muslim. They beliefs are that it is only them who will be going to heaven and the rest will be doom. In the christian bible the role of a woman is printed but their are persons who tactical seems to forget that.
@hellcord (673)
• Romania
29 Oct 08
Thanks Ethereal, Our score so far is Fear 3 Peace 0 I agree with you, but then again let's see what the public has to say further on :)