Is the Republican Party about to implode?

@irisheyes (4370)
United States
October 29, 2008 10:27am CST
Just a few short months ago, the Democratic party was believed by some to be in a shambles. They said the primary battle between Clinto and Obama was too long and divisive and there would not be enough time to come together. They said the new registrations would re-register as Independents or Republicans. They said Hillary's voters would not support the candidate. Well, the Democrats patched up their differences, got behand their candidate and appear headed for the White House. Now, there seems to be serious internal conflict in the Republican party. There are almost daily defections and leaks with most of the controversy focused on Sarah Palin. What do you think will happen? Will the Republicans straighten things out and band together like the the Democrats did or will the party implode? Will Sarah Palin be the new face of the Republican Party or will Caribou Barbie go quietly back to Alaska? If she does fade away as some but not all Republicans hope, who will be the new standard bearer for the Republican Party?
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• United States
29 Oct 08
The news stations need good ratings so they make something out of nothing. How many non stories have we had to listen to for days during this election? Tons. Why? with 24 hours news they have alot of time to fill and htey want to keep your attetion so therefore they make things out to be worse than they are. Neither party is about to implode. No matter who wins it does not spell the end for the other party. When Clinton won it as not the end of Ruplican party. When Bush was it was not the end of the Democratic party. Don't buy into all the hype.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
29 Oct 08
Okay. But who do you think will emerge as the premier Republican if they do not win in November. If the Republicans win it will obviously be McCain and Hillary Clinton will take center stage for the Democrats. But who will take the Republican center stage if the Democrats win? This seems to be where the controversy lies. A lot of Republicans are questioning Sarah Palin as a standard bearer.
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@iriscot (1289)
• United States
29 Oct 08
I kinda agree irish, a lot of the repubs have deserted McCain and Palin. Even old Rush said McCain was a bad choice during the primary. The dems better watch close during the election or the repubs will steal this one just like in 2000. They are a bunch of lying theives. I had heard this happened but I doubted it. Hear is just another flip flop by McCain. He is claiming anything to get votes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY
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@Guardian208 (1095)
• United States
29 Oct 08
There is an argument to be made that our whole system is on the verge of failure. If we all look at the candidates that were running in each of the primaries, both Republican and Democrat, I think we will find that we got the worst of the field running for president. If you take a good hard look and think logically and not be influenced by smooth rhetoric and fancy promises, (remember, everything that they are telling us now are nothing more than promises.) you will find that almost any one of the other candidates running in the primary would have been a better choice. Let's list the criteria that I think should apply to the new president: (Your views may differ but we should be able to agree on most of these.) - Leadership abilities - Proven record of success - Clear understanding of how the world works, not how they want it to work. - Record of acting with integrity - Proven accomplishments - Solid character - Shows respect to all people - Has a history of using sound judgment - Experience governing (not legislating) - Has respect for our Constitution and our history These are just a few that came to mind. You may have your own. I think if we use this type of litmus test, we will find that there were other, more qualified choices for both parties. But that is not how we chose our candidates. It was, by and large, a popularity contest, or worse, a "what are you going to give me" contest. Some voted for Hilary only because she was a woman. Some are going to vote for Obama only because he's black. Others are going to vote for McCain just because he isn't a woman or black. I am ashamed that our election for our leader has devolved into that. Why are we not concerned with what is best for our country? Why are we more focused on what we think we are going to get out of this? Why are the minor issues the major factors? Those who belong to the "greatest generation" are probably disgusted by all of this. I am.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
30 Oct 08
Well, time will have to pass the final verdict on the next president. But at least on the surface the Democrats seem to have come together as a party and gotten behind their candidate. The Republicans on the otherhand appear to be coming apart at the seems with leaks and defections on a daily basis. As for those that vote for a candidate because they are black, female etc. I think that vote is almost always washed out with the vote that goes against them for the same reason so I don't worry too much about it. In the final analysis, we are a democracy and presumably whatever we get will be a reflection of us.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
29 Oct 08
Meh, as far as odds go...parties rarely ever implode, they usually adapt or fade away. Since republicans aren't fading, I think it's safe to say that they'll be there in the future. HOWEVER, I certainly will admit that this whole thing with the McCain campaign and the interesting little ripples its sending (NOT just within its own party) can probably be defined as a phenomena. And I think it's fascinating -- at least on an intellectual level.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
29 Oct 08
There are democrats supporting McCain as well, the media just doesn't report on that. The media wants to make McCain look bad because they want Obama to win. Obama guarantees them better ratings and more viewers. Remember, these are businesses out to use their power for themselves. They'll talk about people like Chuck Hagel, but gloss over Lynette Long and Joe Lieberman. Yes, I'm sure most people haven't even heard of Lynette Long and only know about Lieberman because he's appeared with McCain consistently throughout the election. In the end, things will be as they have been. If Obama gets elected, Republicans will eventually gain control of congress again. It won't be right away obviously, but it took the democrats 6 years to get the majority after Bush got elected.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
29 Oct 08
Whenever I think about the parties I can't help thinking of the old saying "Every dog has its day". Sometimes the dog is the democratic party and sometimes the republican. Both sides end up failing at some point because they forget it is important. The voice of the people.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
30 Oct 08
Great analogy!
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
29 Oct 08
The Republican Party is no more going to "implode" than the Democratic Party is/was. The media would have us believe that the entire party system is ready to explode and blow away into outer space - that's what they do - they keep the public in an uproar - it's news!
@Bd200789 (2994)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I don't know if they will band together or not. As for Palin, she really wants to be the nominee in 2012, but I don't know if the Republicans who are against her now will like her any better four years from now.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I really think a lot of Republicans want her to just go away after this campaign is over. That's why so many of the attacks against her are now being leaked from within the Republican camp. They're terrified that whe will stay on and try to be the new face of the Republican party. I can't say that I blame them for being apprehensive about Sarah.
• United States
30 Oct 08
I don't think we have to worry about seeing Palin as a nominee for 2012. She has stepped on quite a few toes in the Republican party by being a "rogue" as they call her. I don't blame the woman for wanting to be something other than a robot who says what they've drilled into her head. Or walking around smiling and looking pretty. I would want to speak my mind as well, however, Sarah Palin knows as much about running this country as I do and that's not a lot. Sure, I know what I would like to change and what I agree with but I have no idea how to change the things I don't like, you know? And Sarah doesn't either. McCain brought Sarah in because as I said earlier, she's pretty, she's a fresh face, people took to her very quickly and most importantly she was a SHE. All the McCain supporters complain that we like Obama because he's a celebrity or a pretty face or he knows how to work people. Well, Sarah is just like him. The only differences are: he's a man, she's a woman, he's mixed race, she's white, and when he opens his mouth and talks, whether you agree with his ideas or not, he states his ideas with intelligent words whereas poor Sarah can't string five sentences together. Plus Obama doesn't have that terrible eye twitch thing going....oh, right, that's just her "famous wink".
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
30 Oct 08
They sure are a mess, aren't they? I must confess, I LOVE IT!!! Myself, I sort of hope Palin does become the new leader of the GOP because obviously the more people outside her narrow base learn about her the less they're going to like her but at the same time I hope I never see or hear from her again after Tuesday. She's so annoying I'm soooo glad she's not a Democrat because I can't imagine having that voice with that attitude saying things I agree with, if that makes any sense at all. If Sarah isn't the "new face" of the Republican party I can't figure out who will be. In my opinion there isn't much there to choose from. I forget which comedian, it may have been Jay Leno, said it's too bad Ted Stevens was convicted because otherwise he'd probably be the front-runner for the 2012 GOP nomination...lol! Annie
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I have to admit I'm enjoying it a little bit also but I definitely would prefer that she just went back into the frozen north. It's just not fair for that woman to ride on the coat tails of so many women of excellence. Women from both parties have had to be better than the best since the days of Clare Boothe Luce and now this ditz walzes in and claims to be on the same level.
@Bd200789 (2994)
• United States
30 Oct 08
"I'm soooo glad she's not a Democrat because I can't imagine having that voice with that attitude saying things I agree with, if that makes any sense at all." It makes sense to me, Annie. I'm glad she's not a Democrat, too.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I don't know...I've been wondering too...I think they have some serious problems though. Guess we will all have to wait and see how it plays out lol
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