Democrats and Liberals
By worldwise1
@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
October 30, 2008 10:36am CST
I just happened to be watching the Tavis Smiley Show on PBS a couple of nights ago and one of his featured guests was Dr. Cornel West of Princeton University. Dr. West clarified something to me that I had been struggling with for some time. During their conversation he pointed out the difference between being a Democrat and a Liberal. I had known all along that there were differences, but couldn't articulate it. Dr. West was very frank about why he would be holding Obama's feet to the fire should he be elected our next President. He described Obama as a Liberal Democrat. That caused a light bulb to go on in my head, and I then understood why I had had some reservations about supporting Obama from the start. You see, I am a Democrat but not a Liberal. I support Obama, but not blindly because there are a couple of issues that we don't agree on. So, how do you define yourself?
4 people like this
6 responses
@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
30 Oct 08
No one agrees with Obama (or any politician) on EVERY issue, so it's really not a big deal to be in the position you're in.
In general, the USA is a center-right country. Here's how you can tell--extreme right-wingers are the kind of people who want an authoritarian, usually theocratic government.
Extreme left-wingers are anarchists, people who want NO central authority at all.
But notice who gets CALLED an 'extreme left-winger' in the U.S. Obama proposes ending a tax cut for the wealthy and using it to fund a tax break for most Americans, and he gets called a SOCIALIST. That's how far to 'the right' the mentality is in this country.
If one of these guys met an ACTUAL extreme left-winger, their heads would explode, I think.
The mindset is very warped--I think it's still a residual effect of the Puritanical 'witch hunt' days on our collective psyche, that we are just now starting to get past. "Culture war" is becoming an obsolete phrase, as today's kids tend to not see what the big deal was over desegregation, or women's suffrage, etc.
It's a step forward in my opinion, but I digress. We should ALL hold our President's "feet to the fire" regardless of who we voted for, or what we think of any candidate. The government exists to serve the people, and it's the people's responsibility to make sure it's doing its job.
4 people like this
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Nov 08
I agree with everything you say, ClarusVisum, but I don't envy the person who gets the job of running our country for the next four years. It's going to take a great deal of reform to set us back on the straight and narrow again.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
30 Oct 08
I am a liberal there are no democrats in our country, canada, what is the different what is a democrat then?
2 people like this
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
2 Nov 08
those are political philosophies,
and every issue that a government takes will be in line with those philosophies,
for example a republican government believes that you need to keep big business happy because they create the jobs etc,
so when I republican government is in power their are tax cuts for big business that is far greater than lets say health care
now the democrats will be more for the average person, they want next to nothing given to big business and they will spend their time giving aid to education or social programs.
they argue the average joe needs it more
all issues are based on whatever philosophy the government has at the time.
No government does absolutely nothing for the opposite side they just do a heck of a lot less than they do for the side they favor.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Our system of government has for the most part been a two-party system, winterose. Democrats are automatically labeled as Liberals, while Republicans like to think of themselves as Conservatives. My problem with this is that I can't believe that anyone can be all of one thing all the time. Different situations call for different measures.
1 person likes this
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
31 Oct 08
I am as left as you can be Without becoming a communist.I am pro choice straight down the line. I mean you should choose if you want to marry , and it doesn't matter if you are gay or straight. I believe a woman has the choice of either becoming a parent or not. And I believe you have the right to die with dignity. I a pro choice straight down the line.
1 person likes this
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I believe that everybody is grey, not black or white.In other words, everyone is in the middle. They may lean left or right, but they are in the middle.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Nov 08
There's a lot to be said for having the confidence of your convictions, sarah, , but my belief is that things are never all black or all white. That is why I cannot be pro everything.
1 person likes this
@drknlvly6781 (6246)
• United States
31 Oct 08
I wish you would have included a description of a liberal. I have heard that term used a lot, but never quite knew what it meant. I am a democrat, and I too, support Obama. I have already voted, and guess who I voted for! But I don't follow him blindly either, or anyone else for that matter. Obama seems like the person for the job, after this eight years of hel* we went through with Bush. He represents the change we need, with the clear policies that will do right by the American middle class, for a change. I haven't found anything that I disagree with him on, but I did read what he plans to do on his website, which is more than a lot of people do when it comes to voting.
1 person likes this
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Nov 08
It's great that you are an informed voter, drknlvly, as everyone should be. I have worried that there will be so many voters who did not take the time or trouble to adequately do the research before making their decision. I don't have a clear definition of what a Liberal is, but I do know that I am not one. If you believe the Conservative slant then all Democrats are Liberals. That just isn't true.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
30 Oct 08
On the extreme left wingers, you have out right comunism...on the extreme right wing, you have facism. I don't think either aplies to either candidate, but the polarizing effect this election is having is becomming pretty hard to ignore. we have a working stiff who has been asaulted na dchastized in the media and even in here for asking a question and the media's ensuing obsession of him. We have an alaskan governor who has been the victim of the most obscene and shamefull attacks I have ever seen in a campaign, we have a mn who's being acused of faking his citizenship.
[b]]What the F*#! has happened to my country??????[/b
1 person likes this
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Having lived through many elections in my lifetime, xfahctor, I have witnessed how dirty the game of politics can become. I must say, however, that this one has been dirtier than any I've ever seen! Freedom of speech has been significantly abused with all of the deliberate slander. I think that people tend to forget that the world is watching this election and judging us according to our actions.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
30 Oct 08
I would like to say Independent, but if I did, then I already know that who I vote for would not win..So I vote for the lesser of 2 evils, as my husband calls it, that way I have a 50-50 chance of who I vote for to win..
So, what is the difference between a Democrat and a liberal? And is there a difference between a conservative and a Republican?
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
2 Nov 08
In my opinion, carmelanirel, there are noticeable differences on both sides. A Conservative will adhere to strict party policies no matter what, while a Liberal does just the opposite. While I do pay attention to party policies, I don't necessarily agree with every issue that is proposed. I like to believe that I am a free-thinker and decide on the issues according to my beliefs.
1 person likes this
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Yeah, that is what I do too, vote according to my beliefs. I hate it when primary's come up and you have to give them what party you are, I don't like being "labeled" like that..