As a parent, what are you going to do with mean teachers?

@Bebs08 (10681)
United States
October 31, 2008 10:27am CST
My sister, keeps on telling me about her present experience of the teacher of her eldest kid. He is so mean. My nephew forgets to bring his project to be submitted for that day and it was the deadline. the teacher was so upset and said, if he would submit that project the following day, he would throw it in front of the class for everyone to see and that students would never pass late projects. That's ridiculous!! Can he not give consideration? or maybe minus the points that is suppose to be given if the project is late? Then my nephew never pass his project because he might be embarrass of what the teacher should do. And you know what? the teacher give him a grade of 50. He spends time and money to make and project and it ends up like that. This teacher is suppose to be a Christian because he is teaching in that Christian school. If that happens to you child, what would you do? If it happens to me, I will never sleep until I can talk to him and give me the right reason. Passing late project is not that big deal to show bad attitude to kids? Teachers should set good example to the kids. I am upset when I heard this from my sister.
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
31 Oct 08
I think that the teacher is trying to teach your nephew responsibility but is going the wrong way about it. Sometimes we look at things on the negative side which is not good. If this was a project your nephew was doing to go to an examination body, he would have fail because the deadline would have past. Don't be upset instead sit down and talk with your nephew and show him the importance of being on time with his school projects.
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
31 Oct 08
Yes Bebs, he did make the project but did not bring it on the date it was due. While attending school I did have a teacher as you describe and I did not see why she was behaving like that. Since joining the working world I realize that she was preparing us for the future. I did had a boss who gave me project that I have to complete and give back to him on the day not after. Because of this teacher technique I was able to be successful at this job. As parents we are not to look at the negatives but to see what positiveness can come from it. I agreed that the teacher should not embarrass the child but hands and gloves him will only makes him puny. Remember life is hard and when children received responsibilities he/she should always abide by the rules.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
31 Oct 08
I know that my nephew also is not responsible but why the teacher can not talk to him in private? even if he will scold him or whatever, he should do that privately. And he can minus the points that is suppose to be given for that project not give him zero? He has the project but just forget to bring it, which means he is not totally irresponsible because he made a project the only thing is he forgets to bring it. Can the teacher not give a chance to bring it the following day? If my nephew did not make any project, the teacher is reasonable to give him Zero but if he has porject? and give him zero, that is totally ridiculous!!!!
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@ladysakurax (1161)
• Canada
31 Oct 08
I understand your anger. It happens all the time. However, there`s nothing u can do about it. Change the teacher or talk to him or her. When I was in college, my physic teacher won`t accept late lab reports...and if it has to happen, he wouldn`t take it..it would be a grade of 0. There`s nothing such as less marks. When you go to college and university or job, it`s important to get there on time. I also think that it`s unfair for the other students who work hard. i.e. I would stay till 5am to finish my paper rather sleep and do it tomorrow.If it would happen to my child I would tell to not do things in the last min. It`s true that the teacher has shown some attitude your nephew has learnt his lesson and from this humiliation...he won`t be late hopefully.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Well, i agree with you that kids also must be responsible when it comes to project. My nephew has a project, the only thing was that he forget to bring it tpo school and the teacher wont' accept if he will pass it the next day. Can the teacher not give due consideration when a kid forgets to bring it because he is also in hurry not to be late? I am also a strict teacher but I would give due consideration if he has a project and forgets to bring it. I would give him a chance and if he can't bring it, that's the time I will decide what I am going to do.
• Canada
3 Nov 08
Dear bebs, I believe there's no right or wrong answers. People have different opinions. You think that what the act of the teacher was wrong while he though it is right. So you ask me should a teacher give a chance to the students who forget and are late? Here is my answer. It depends to the teacher. He can decide whatever he/she wants. Of course people do mistakes all the time and it happens to forget. For this reason, some teacher are less strict then others. On the other hand, people must take the consequences of the mistake. It hapenned to me that I was late for an exam. Especially when it comes to university examination, one exam is worth 50%. You agree with me I guess. If you come late, the teacher cannot give you an extra 30 min late. At some point, the teacher might warn us that when class starts, the door of the clasroom is locked because it disturbes. Maybe it's true that the teacher gave to much of an attitude but about the grading, that's the teacher's decision. You are a teacher yourself and nobody has a right to tell you what to do. Everyone just act what they believe is righteous.
• Canada
3 Nov 08
On a side note, you mentionned that his teacher told him that he won't accept the project if he hands it in the next day. Why didn't he call his mom or someone to bring it over? I used to forget some laboratories report...and the class was only once a week..so there's nothing as next day. The teacher won't make all his way just for my report. I would wait for her at the subway and she meet me there with the papers.
@chertsy (3798)
• United States
31 Oct 08
Your sister needs to meet with her sons teacher. He doesn't have to be a Christian to teach at a Christian school. What he needs though is to understand that degrading kids in front of others isn't going to teach that child anything except fear. If he's a much older student, I can understand if a project is late, then yes he shouldn't get a full grade for it. The teacher had no right acting the way he did to him with the other kids around or not. There is no excuse for this behaviour. My neighbors son has a 2nd grade teacher that acts like this. I pray my daughter doesn't get him next year, or should I say, he better pray that he doesn't get my daughter for a student.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
hahaha youa re really brave. I agree with you/ the teacher should have minus the grade for late project not threaten the child to be humiliated by throwing the project in the class? he is really showing a bad attitude of a Christian teacher. It is not the way to discipline a child. It would make him rebellious. He doesn't realized it.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
5 Nov 08
I have delt with crappy teachers in the past. With my youngest, she has her own attitude, so I pity a teacher she gets that is rude to her. I do hope your sister had a talk with him, because honestly I would been down at the school the following day to deal with it. Also if he know he was going to be late on the project, he should have talked to the teacher ahead of time to see if he could get a extension. Either way, how the teacher delt with the situation, is something like a small child would do. This makes me wonder if he does this to all of his students and if so, should he be teaching. I live in the Bible belt of America and there is about 3 Christian schools to each public school. These schools don't have to hire a teacher with that religious belief, just as long as he/she has a degree in teaching. I think teachers should be tested not on their skills as a teacher, but for their people skills.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
31 Oct 08
I would stick with the teacher. Students should be taught to reach the deadlines. Deadlines are there for a reason. Schooling should help young students to adapt the the work environment later on. Don't make excuses for your nephew. Just help him to meet his deadlines. © ronaldinu 2008
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
7 Nov 08
Bebs, it is teachers who behave such as you have children thinking that when he/she gets a deadline it can be hand in the next day (i.e. pass the due date). So they carried it inside the working world and also at college/university levels and then they have headache in meeting deadlines. We should always remember that children lives what they learn. Stop the soft hearting. If a project should be hand in on the 25th then give it to them from the 1st of the month. You know the children that have difficulties (i.e. money) then give them the project early. When I was going to school I never have a parents who was rich but my teachers know my condition and when it comes to my C.X.C./S.S.C. projects it was given to us early so that we can do it and hand it in time. There were also teachers who lend us the money and let us pay them back. Or I utilized the libraries in the communities. Remember teachers are teaching the next President or Corporate Leaders how to be responsible.
@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
yes I understand that. I am also a teacher but when the deadline has come and not all had meet it, I will give a day extension but they will be minus, I am not telling my students that i will throw their project in front of the class if they will pass it late? there must be some problems, they might struggling to find money for the project. I can understand that? it depends upon the reason. But to a Christian teacher who will do that with his students? I will not appreciate it. I am not siding with my nephew because he forgets to bring his project? he might be irresponsible not thinking that the deadline is that day. But most teachers will give extension and this is the first time? not all the time that he forgets to bring it? he made a project.. not like other students who never made one.. I might be upset to the students who did not make a project but if they did and they just forget to bring it? I could consider that and give minus points not threating them to be humiliated.
• Canada
31 Oct 08
i had the same problem with teachers when my son was in school. the teachers would give the other kids treats and stickers but would never give my son any. the teachers were constantly picking on him. my son came home from school every day crying. the teacher even called me and told me that if i don't medicate my son she doesn't want him to come back to school. i told her he didn't need to be medicated. i even got a doctor's note to give her that told her from the doctor himself that my son didn't have to be medicated. finally, i got sick of all her BS. i decided to homeschool my son. he's in grade 2 now and actually looks forward to learning. he's alot happier now and so are my husband and i.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
31 Oct 08
And why the teacher do that to your kid? Does she has a good reason? I think teachers should be fair enough to treat their students. Teachers who are like that should not be found in the classroom. Now a days parents have the right to complain if their kids are not treated fairly in the class specially if the one doing it is the teacher. If I were you? before I will finally pull out my child, I have to talk to the teacher and straight to her face I would tell him how I felt in the way she deals with students. As a matter of fact, if parents will unite and file petition to that mean teacher? she would reap the consequence of what she did.
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@yadav8797 (1211)
• India
1 Nov 08
hi princessmel, i like this discussion very much and you response too. i will appreciate your response over there.friends,teachers are role model for us.they will guide there student time o time as parent guide.they play vital role in student life.the teachers has the power to built a good human or bad human being in future.so, keep respected your teacher and learn good things from them. happy mylotting
• Canada
3 Nov 08
my husband and i confronted her about how she was treating our son and she kept doing it after that. we did this about 5 times. finally, we got tired of fighting with her so we went to the principal and he said "i don't care what happens in the classroom"
@Nhey16 (2518)
• Philippines
1 Nov 08
if the teachers of my kids would do that, as soon as my kid tell me about it, i would go to the school and talk to that teacher...i do tell my kids that no one has a right to embarass them in front of people coz that would be a cruel thing to do. i usually go to the school almost everyday when my kids where in their grades 1-2, but now the teachers had known us that we really go talk to them whenever something unusual comes up. now, my kids are in their grades 4 and 6, and so far and fortunately, nothing like that happened with my kids.
@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Well, it is also good to be well known by the teachers so that they would be careful. But I think what you did is just right... I told my sister to go talk to the teacher whatever is going on in school so that she can follow up her son.
@Nhey16 (2518)
• Philippines
4 Nov 08
you did right by telling your sis to go talk to the teacher. sometimes, when one person talks to the teacher it will be for the benefit of all children, coz most of the times, the teachers are not really cautious on what they're doin and they would just realize about it when someone goes there and tell them about it.... :) i do know, coz i used to complain a lot of things in the school and tell the teachers about it.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
5 Nov 08
if i have to face a mean teacher, i will defintely make sure that teacher does not do anything to my son or daughter, and if that happens, i'll make sure i'd be mean to her too. i will take things further and will make sure she understands she can't just be bossy or be mean to any kids just because she is a teacher/ hehe
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
6 Nov 08
well, you have a point too? teachers should not be mean just because they were the teachers and the students would always follow them because they ought to. That is like communist style hahahaha... We should teach the kids not to rebel but to be obedient in a proper way. Teach them to be responsible in a proper way.
• United States
3 Nov 08
I am so sorry that your nephew was treated that way.Your sister needs to go to the principal and get her son into another class.Yes he did not turn in the project in time.The teacher should have spoken to him in private.This teacher seems like he's burned out.He needs to retire.The way the teachers act at my children's school is if you have homework that is late the parent has to write a note.And they will give the child a lower grade.If my kids were ever treated that way I would switch teachers.I hope that it works out for your nephew.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I agree with that idea. the child would be given low grade for passing the project late than to throw the project in front of the class to purposely humiliate the child plus give him a grade of 50? that is too much. Maybe the 50 grade is good for those who have no project.. but if you have project and just late then the teacher will not accept but throw it away and give a grade of 50? what is he trying to show?
@jesus777 (662)
• Bermuda
31 Oct 08
i think this teacher is jerk and needs counseling there is a right and a wrong way to do things and you say it is a christian school and this man was supposed too be christian first of all he needs an attitude adjustment because christ would not have acted this way and neither should his followers. i am proud to say that i am a christian and i always think before i act and i always say to myself what would jesus do in this situation or that situation we have to represent jesus christ if that is who we proclaim to serve and that teacher public humiliating your nephew was not the right way of doing things at all. i would have spoken to the child after class and maybe called his parents to inform them of what was going on. but not doing it opening to shame or hurt or humiliate the child!!! i would not want anyone to do it my kids so i wouldn't want to do it to any one else s i say do unto others as you have them do unto you. treat people the way you want to be treated,and people will respect you and treat you the way you have treated them!!!!
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@kerriannc (4279)
• Jamaica
31 Oct 08
You are a Christian and before you act you always question what Jesus would do in a situation. But my friend you are no different from the teacher. You think that the teacher is a jerk. Remember my friend Jesus has humility and he would not have call this teacher by name much less think it. Remember everyone sin in their thinking, talking and even the clothes that one wears. When Jesus was being tempted by Satan, did you hear him talk to him in any way. One should practice what he/she preaches and leave all judgment to God.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
jesus, I get your point. A true Christian teacher will not humiliate his students in public. He can call him privately and talk to him about what is the consequence of being late in passing. Humiliating a student even if it is a from of discipline will never be forgotten by the child, and that experience might create a negative attitude of the child toward the school and the teacher.
@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
7 Nov 08
I'd be upset too. Seems pretty unreasonable to me. My daughter just started Kindergarten this year. So I really haven't come across this yet. Guess I will cross that bridge if and when I have to. Perhaps someone should give the teacher a definition of Christian behavior. Sounds more like he acts as a tyrant.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
10 Nov 08
that's right!! he should be reminded.. I wonder if the principal knows what this teacher is doing in his classroom. How he deals with his students.
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
1 Nov 08
I would go and report this teacher on spot! I will speak with the Principal. And tell her about this.. If she does not want to hear me out, I will go to the District Board. If this does not help, then I will go over their board, until, I get my point across. If all else fails, I will have my child removed from his class. I will make sure that I tell them what the teacher told my child too! No, this is not the way, that an TRULY CHRISTIAN is supposed to talk to their student. This is very unacceptable..
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I agree with you. This is definitely not good to see in a Christian school. I bet the teacher has personal problems that makes him so hard with his students.
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
1 Nov 08
The throwing comment was overboard. However, a great reduction in the grade is in order. Failure to turn it in on time, in some schools it's an automatic 'didn't do the work'. For some it's a C or D as a starting point for the grade with deductions then also given for bad and faulty execution. Students are aware that it is unacceptable to turn assignments in late. It doesn't matter how much time and money you spent on it. Timeliness is part of the assignment. Schools are supposed to teach responsibility. How can they do that, if they don't hand out some sort of punishment for late projects and homework assignments? Think about it. In the work place, if you show up late for work, don't decide to go in that day, don't get your work done in time... what do you think your boss would do? Oh, I forgot my work at home... I don't think any boss would say, it's okay. That's what kids are supposed to learn. And yes, kids also have to learn to deal with a mean 'boss'. What would I do? My kids would get a 'sermon' (that's what they call it, lol) from both of us about responsibility, deadlines, and acceptance of punishment. They know very well that their school projects have priority and that they are held responsible and accountable for their work. We taught that from the get go. They would also be told to deal with a teacher who might not like them and be unfair. Real life is like that. Of course there are limitations as to how 'mean' a teacher should be. I don't know how old your nephew is, but the throwing comment was definitely out of bounds. That does not set a good example for the kids but resembles a tamper tantrum of a toddler. I would tell my kids that behavior like that is unacceptable, but, alas, teachers are only human. That kind of behavior does warrant a call to the principal. I also would try and communicate with the teacher (depending on the age, they would have to do that themselves when they are in middle school and up) to see how to make up for the bad grade by maybe doing an extra assignment.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Well, I understand what you mean about meeting the deadline. But throwing a late project in the front of the class with the purpose of humiliating the child for forgetting to being the project and that is considered late because he forgets to bring it, and the teacher do the throwing with the purpose of humiliating as a discipline is not right. This is a Christian school. what values the teacher is showing? can he not make another way of disciplining the kids? is this not a form of emotional abuse to the child?
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
3 Nov 08
If that happens to my son, I'd never let that day pass, I'd go to the school to confront that teacher but first I'd report her to the principal so we could speak in front of her so that the Principal would know what kind of teacher they are keeping in their Christian school. How inconsiderate could that teacher be? Why? Is she perfect and does not commit mistaker herself that she can't understand other's mistakes. For as long as the student did the project and would promise to submit the next day...what is the big deal? Maybe that teacher has personal problem and is not happy with her life so she behaves that way. I'd tell the Principal that she should reprimand that teacher otherwise I'd pull my son out of that school which teacher can't teach good values. What is a Christian school for, it it does not serve its purpose.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
You are very right my friend. A Christian teacher who doesn't teach good Christian values. He is a man with lots of personal problems. yes, suppose to be he should consider the student to bring the project the next day even if he will minus that's fine, it is reasonable, but to threaten the child that late projects will be thrown in front of the class? what kind of values a Christian teacher is trying to teach to his students? I agree with you, the Christian school and the so called Christian teachers do not serve its purpose.
@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
4 Nov 08
A couple of my kids teachers didn't fly to well with me personally, but they were never directly mean to the children. If they were I would have words with them and if that didn't settle things, then off to the higher up authority.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Well, it is normal for teachers to discipline the kids, there's no question with that but they should do it in the right way. With food reason. It doesn't teach anything good to humiliate the kid if they are not misbehaving? the problem of forgetting the project at home is not really a big deal to humiliate the kid that way? There are some ways to let the kid realize to be responsible not to humiliate him like that.
@Gwapako_28 (2140)
• Philippines
1 Nov 08
I am a mother of 2 kids. If that happens to my sons, then i will surely talk with that teacher and i'll tell her to stop doing that or ill talk with the principal about her attitude. A teacher is a model and she should not be mean to the students. And if she cant be good enough then she better stop and quit that career then.
@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Well, being a teacher is not easy, I know that because I have been there. But a teacher must have good reason to impose discipline to the child. And humilaating is a form of child abuse. Throwing the project in front of the class is very mean. why he do that? then what he is going to do with those who did not make a project? if he humiliates those who made but late in passing how much more for those who did not make? Well, I am a teacher, and I am also upset with those who are not making project but I never throw a late project in the class. I have students who never make projects and I called their parents. I tell them to follow up their kid or he will have a zero grade. The student know it but some are just lazy. But humiliating like throwing it? I never do that. That is just so mean....
@checapricorn (16061)
• United States
31 Oct 08
[i]Hi Bebs, wow....what a Teacher? If that will happen to me, I will report that attitude to the principal and I will tell the head of the school that I am disappointed and the teacher should be taught some lesson.......very mean![/i]
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Hi Che, You get it right!! he is very mean. I am also a strict teacher much more when it comes to project but I never do that in front of the class throwing it? what an attitude. I could deal with it in another way that the kid will not be humiliated in public. Am sure the kid would be hurt and never forget the incident. One thing I learned the hard way is to put myself in the child's situation. I have to investigate before I will make a decision of what to do. There are many who have valid reasons as there are many also who are just irresponsible.
@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
1 Nov 08
Many teachers are jerks who cannot make their mark in the real world so they become teachers who bully students. I had my share of stupid, mean teachers and almost kicked one in high school. I terrorized one mean teacher who refused to enroll me. I closed the office and turned away all students who wanted to enroll until he enrolled me. I will not accept any bullying and will probably terrorize any teacher who terrorizes my child. Cheers!!
@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
hahahaha!!! you are great!!!! well, if you are reasonable and the teacher is not, I will appreciate that attitude you've done but if you just want to terrorize the teacher to get what you want that is something. I won't do that. But if you have good reasons? that is great!!!!
• United States
31 Oct 08
Don't base this guy on all Christian people. He may have some issues going on in his life right now that causes him to act this way towards his students. I would have your sister talk with him privately and see what is going on, sometimes a simple conversation can smooth things over with the prof.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Well, maybe you are right!! my sister should have talk to the teacher but she didn't because she doesn't want to say anything bad, she was upset to the teacher. I just told her to follow up her kid every time there is assignment so that the teacher will have no reason to act that way.
@scorpio19 (1363)
31 Oct 08
Hello Bebs, I had this with a teacher when my daughter was younger, he was a bully and I reported him time and time again to the board of governors until eventually he did it to another child and the parent wasn't having none of it and went straight to child protection and this teacher was suspended waiting investigation he was never charged but he can never work with children again because it is now on his work record. People like this need to be dealt with or else they just get braver and braver so therefore get meaner.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Oh!! that is good... Well, I know how hard it is to be a teacher but if the teacher is just doing the right thing, they would not be affected even if whoever will report them to the higher up but if the teacher is abusing, being means and too much in his discipline, that would be good for him. To learn his lessons.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
31 Oct 08
I totally agree with you. a teacher has no business doing that to any student of his,he is there to teach and guide, not terrorise. i think it is best to have a talk with this high handed teacher and see if he comes out with a plausible explanation for his actions, and try reasoning with him, and i feel that,if that fails it is better to address this to the concerned authority higher up, the head of the department or the principal.
@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I like that word, terrorise.. yes, my sister said she will just let this time pass but if next time the teacher will do it again, she said she will throw the project with the teacher seeing it, maybe she plans to throw it too in the class with the presence of the teacher and the students.. with this, she could get even. I know, the teacher's attention would be called by the principal if one of the parents will report him to the principal.