Ron Paul effect being felt in Montana
By lilwonders
@lilwonders456 (8214)
United States
November 1, 2008 1:01pm CST
On parts of Highway 93 there are more signs for Ron Paul than McCain. Ron Paul is on the ballot as a third party candidate (constitution party).
Ron Paul did not ask for his name to be put on the ballot. He did ask for it be taken off but the state election board said they couldn't.So Ron Paul asks people in Montana to write in Chuck Balwins name. Ron Paul has a big following in Montana. Well he has a pretty good following across the country. A lot of them plan on writting in his name. Do you think this will effect the election? Of course it will effect McCain more than Obama. But how much do you think it will matter in the end?
http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2008/10/28/bnews/br69.tx
By the way, for all you Ron Paul supporters out there. The fight is not over. You can regiser with the Campaign for Liberty and get active in your area.
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7 responses
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
1 Nov 08
It's sad that Ron Paul has given up so easily. He's a way better pick for president, in my opinion. I'm still on the fence about voting, but if I do, I'll still try and write him in.
He won't get enough to win him anything, of course. I have to wonder how many of those votes will be from former non-voters. How many will be taken from McCain or Obama? You're right about him probably getting more of McCain's votes than Obama's votes, though. I don't see many Obama voters wanting to put such a fiscally conservative guy in the white house.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
1 Nov 08
I think it might be more accurate to say that he'd had bad timing. He didn't know how quickly things would go south economically...and I don't think he's the kind of guy who strategically plays politics like that anyway.
Yes, I agree, had he stayed about a month longer...he'd probably have won this race.
But he wanted to turn the momentum he'd gathered to as positive of ends as he could...and he has!
I personally think it's neat how many Ron Paul supporters have gravitated towards Obama and how most of them despise McCain. It's...just interesting. I also really like how Ron Paul supporters are contributing to something of a revival about voting for third party candidates.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
1 Nov 08
I have never heard any of Paul's supporters gravitating towards Obama...in fact that seems extremely odd considering Paul's dedication to the consitution and how conservative he is...Obama's supporters do not seem to even have a hint of being conservative ...but everyone is different I guess.
Most Paul supporters I have come across are definitely writing him in. And then others, like me, are iffy about a write in or voting McCain.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
1 Nov 08
Ron Paul did not give up easily. He started his own party. Check it out. This election may be over but the next one is not.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
1 Nov 08
I cannot help but love the fact that Ron Paul constantly says he does not want to be supported but people do it anyways. In fact it makes me think he just wants to do his job and not get involved with the celebrity of the other two. Which he has stated in his emails you receive after registering with the mentioned site. I am a member of his campaign for Liberty and every chance I get I mention paul to anyone.
I have always gone with the person who does not make you feel the pressure in deciding...and since he tries to keep his name off of the ballots I cannot help but want to write him in or if he will be on our KY ballot pick his name. I just do not know exactly how I will vote on the fourth. My conscious says stick with the one who will uphold the constitution and mark my protest vote...and then the other gut is to go with the guy I know who has shown integrity to our nation through his service....
I think if people actually vote for Paul it is a true sign we do want change in the nation...the kind of change that will allow us to realize that document we learned about in school means so much more than words. I watched some interesting documentaries on the constitution to further my understanding and found it quite refreshing to see that our founding fathers and the people who drafted the consitution most definitely did not see eye to eye on things, but were able to come together for this "project". So why can't we now in 2008?
I am very happy that Paul has a lot of support out there and it would be nice if it would make a huge difference in the election. Who knows....
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
1 Nov 08
I love Ron Paul too. If you have not already go to the campaign for liberty site and sign up to help out. This campaign goes way past this election and is already working on the next one both local and federal.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
1 Nov 08
I think he answers Obama's question well...."Will we be better off four years from now?" I say if Ron Paul seriously does announce his running the answer will be a resounding yes. And I am speaking in terms of four years from now since he doesn't have a chance now.
I'm already with the Paul site. Thanks.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
1 Nov 08
I cannot stop wondering why Ron Paul did not run nation wide as either the Libertarian candidate or as an Independent. Yes Ron Paul would have hurt John McCain but he would have also hurt Barack Obama. Take the two wars going on Ron Paul is the only candidate to have actually voted against invading Iraq, and has voted to remove troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama says he is against the war but when given the chance Obama votes to keep the war going on. Ron Paul is the only candidate to vote against the Patriot Act. Obama has said that he was against it but voted for it. When it comes to civil liberties Obama is just words. When it come to fiscal responsibility McCain is just words. With Ron Paul his actions speak for themselves.
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@taface412 (3175)
• United States
1 Nov 08
That's because Ron Paul votes by the constitution. This is also why he is very consistent with his work, a huge plus. And I kinda like soeone who stand up for what they believe and doesn't change their mind because there is a dip in the polls. Ethics can be taught, but it is something different when someone finds their code of ethics and lives by them.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
2 Nov 08
I think it definitely could hurt McCain. I would think that voters would think hard before casting their vote for Ron Paul -- or for Chuck Balwins, since we know neither can win. Neither was even on my ballot when I voted, so it's impossible for them to win.
So it is important to make your vote COUNT. McCain's policies are going to please Ron Paul's supporters FAR MORE than Obama's will, and I think that Paul's supporters should consider that strongly before throwing away their vote on principle.
The time to work for Ron Paul is now -- for the next election.
But NOT now for THIS election.
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Yes, I've heard something like that. But considering the President would then be Obama -- with probably the Dems having a majority in the Congress, well trying to teach the Republicans that lesson will end up HURTING OUR WHOLE COUNTRY, maybe severely.
McCain has not been getting heard much but he IS very strongly for fiscal responsibility, and for balancing the budget. He is FOR judges who are going to put their personal feelings aside and vote based on our Constitution. Obama is for adding 1 trillion to our already huge budget, and he is FOR judges who will use empathy and support for the poor and needy in making their decisions -- he strongly believes the Constitution is a "living" document, for him to change as he sees fit. He has not promised to balance the budget.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
2 Nov 08
Some think that by sticking with a third party or write in instead of voting for McCain will teach the Republican party a lesson and bring them back to their conservative and fiscally responsible roots.
I am not saying it is the right thing to do but I am hearing a lot of that.
@ClarusVisum (2163)
• United States
1 Nov 08
Probably not much effect overall, since I SERIOUSLY doubt this election is going to come down to a difference of three electoral votes. It would be a feather in Obama's cap to win Montana, though; Bush won it in 2004 by nearly 21 points.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
1 Nov 08
ya but he has supporters all over the country that are going to write his name in. If this election is close it could make the difference.
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@urcrazy (34)
• United States
2 Nov 08
I know lots of Ron Paul supporters are writing his name in. It should be about voting for who you think will be the best President for this country. I also know an equal amounf people that are afraid that if they vote for Ron Paul, then Obama might win the election, so they insist on voting for McCain. Real CHANGE would be NOT voting Republican or Democrat.
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
2 Nov 08
But it will have the end result of putting the most liberal Democrat in the Senate in power, with probably a majority of Dems in Congress. VERY DANGEROUS CHANGE.
@mehale (2200)
• United States
2 Nov 08
I also think that Ron Paul would have been the better choice for President. He believes in our constitution, and votes accordingly. I am still tossing around the idea of writing him in. Though that will probably bring Obama closer to winning than he already is. I just don't know at this point whether to write in the candidate that I believe is the best for our nation, or vote for the big party candidate that is second best. I sure do wish that Paul had won the nomination.