Take the DAY OFF to VOTE?
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
United States
November 3, 2008 10:04am CST
Yes, it is true.
0bama has asked his supporters to take the day off from work and devote that time to helping get out the vote.
Here's more about that as well as reports by demographic group as to who agrees or disagrees with this idea.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/one_third_of_obama_voters_plan_to_be_out_tomorrow
I say that it probably is no surprise that 0bama supporters are more likely to agree with the notion of taking off from work than any other group. It just makes sense that those hoping to be on the receiving end of 'wealth redistribution' would be the ones more likely to un-necessarily take a day off from work. There is no need to 'get out the vote'. Those informed enough to have an opinion will not need urging to go vote. Why encourage the apathetic and ill-informed to cast a ballot?
What do you say?
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I think it is ridiculous to encourage people who have jobs in this time of the economic situation to jeopardize keeping their job by taking an unnecessary day off.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
0bama's request of people to take the day off is but another example of how 0bama does not think thru the economic consequences of his 'bright' ideas. I truely believe this request by 0bama is but one more example of how his mindset will economically weaken the USA.
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@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I wonder how many will take the day off but not even vote.
Should we take Wednesday off for the riots too?
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Riots? LOL... hmmm... I don't think so here. There are no Obama signs in the entire county of which I'm aware. Additionally, the Obama supporters there are keep quiet about it. Any riot would be quite small and short in duration.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
There are riots in some of the larger cities even after certain sporting events. As a precaution Law enforcement is preparing for the possiblity of riots if 0bama wins or loses. If he loses there may be riots out of disapointment. If he wins there could be celebratory riots. It is a stange strange world. It also shows the nature of 0bama supporters that Law Enforcement would see this need.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Mostly because it is the ill-informed ones who are most likely to vote for 0bama.
Those of us who bother to pay attention know that 0bama would be bad for America.
The more that is discovered about 0bama's plans the less people like him.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Wow , that is the truth about the more you know concerning Obama. The more you know, the more wierd it gets, too.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
4 Nov 08
"The more that is discovered about Obama's plans the less people like him."
You said a mouthful!
It was Obama's PLAN, and unfortunately for us, it seems to have worked, that we would NOT find out enough about him in time to STOP HIM. I think that is why he has mostly kept quiet on all the controversies -- he knew that was (psychologically) the best way to keep the main stream media from questioning him.
Someone interviewed on the news today made a true statement. It seems CLEAR that if this election were postponed by 6 weeks, the whole thing would be upset. McCain is GAINING everywhere, BECAUSE more and more info about Obama is starting to come out, IN HIS OWN WORDS, and people DON'T LIKE IT!
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
3 Nov 08
In my county the schools will be closed on election day. I assume that means that state workers will be given election day as a state holiday. I wonder if the polls reflect states where people are given the day off. As for those taking off a work day for Obama to help get the vote out, I hope he donates some of his election funds so they won't lose a day of pay for their campaign efforts.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
0bama's election funds are an interesting question starting to interest various prosecuters and other such folks responsible for enforcing laws.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
3 Nov 08
This is an excellent discussion. Isn't that the truth? They don't see the importance of going to vote before or after work and putting in a day of work. No, they must support their king who will then reward them with the money that once belonged to the people who worked for it. Anyone who still cannot figure who to vote for have not given it enough thought or do not understand the issues. People taking off work to mess with the minds of the uninformed would not just be doing it for that reason. Most of all they want a day off. People who actually work hard for a living and have been educated informally or formally to do their jobs will be looking at the lazy people who do nothing because they want a handout will begin to say, "Why am I busting it to make the same amount of money as those people over there who do not work and get paid the same as I do because my taxes go to them to make sure they have the same lifestyle I do."
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
You have identified one of the exact main reasons all socialist experiements from the early pilgrims in colonial America, the Amana Colonies in Iowa, and the early socialist Israeli Kibbuttz's all failed. People learn they have to work really hard to support people lazier than themselves who they do not even like. Then production efficiency begins to drop. Then the community breaks up, dissolves, or fails. This happened at all the socialist experiments mentioned above and too many others to mention. All of them!
@Jezebella (1446)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I couldn't imagine taking the day off of work in order to go to vote. I can vote when i get off at five well five thirty when I get home. I need the money to pay my bills so taking the day off would actually hurt me. And I don't understand how he could ask all his supporters to take the day off. I mean many of the people he tried to reach are those from small towns like myself although he insulted us when he talked with Joe the Plumber.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
You got that right about Joe the Plumber. The more 0bama speaks and reveals himself, the more people think, "You've got to be kidding me!".
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
3 Nov 08
In Canada, it's the law that the workplace has to grant workers 3 consecutive hours off to vote. That way, you'll in no way be in jeapordy to vote. That's how it should be.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
To each country, its own way of voting. Canada's way does make sense, I just don't think we need it here.
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
4 Nov 08
I've not been in NC quite a full year, so not sure if this is a new thing or normal, but we got a notice from school saying tomorrow the school opening is delayed TWO HOURS to allow for voting!
I was surprised, having not seen that done before.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
4 Nov 08
I agree. If you weren't planning to vote by now, then don't! The RNC asked me to walk with them this past weekend and today. I don't see the point. I believe that it is our right to vote, but it is also our right not to! Needless to say, I am not walking!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
Yes, election day is not the time to be dragging the undecided citizens to the polls. Let them make up their minds first.
@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I have heard other candidates ask the same of their supporters, but since I don't work at present, the idea was there anyhow. I had planned to take vacation days when I was working because I am serious about this and I didn't want to hear well you was late, this or that, so I wanted to take the day off then since Thanksgiving was a day I probably couldn't take off, but I lost my job. either way it went, I was going to vote in this election one way or the other. but from the turnout I saw at the polling place on Tuesday, our local high school, turnout was HIGH!! never saw anything like it in the whole eight years I have been voting in Alabama. never. Now on what you said, from what I saw Tuesday, I didn't see no apathetic or ill informed people at the polls. I saw determined, hopeful, people stand on line, some for over an hour, a lot on their way to work, a lot of folk who were older, some on wheelchairs, some who could stand, and they were standing with a purpose!! They didn't get mad, angry, they were patient. In fact, they were serious about this voting and kept the peace that morning. Some spoke about doing this, some talked about the historical parts of it, all in all, it was a hopeful morning and I felt proud to be among them.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Peaceful elections are what make this country great. It is always an honor to be a part of that, no matter who wins. Now, that Obama has won, I wish him the best and will do my part to support the President.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
4 Nov 08
I think it is common for voters of both sides to take the day off or time off in order to vote as well as push those undecided or not voting to vote in their favor. I live in an apartment complex and I've gotten them from both sides questioning and trying to sway me to vote one way or another...it isn't just obama for sure. As for his spreading the wealth theory ...republicans really seem to distort his plan. It actually makes a lot of sense.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
Well, a little common sense, eh? Thank you for that. We were ready for it!
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
4 Nov 08
oh and many of the schools are shut down for voting so the kids that can't even vote are going to have to make up the day at the end of the year and that has nothing at all to do with either side. I seriously doubt that anybody is really going to take an entire day off from work just to vote.
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@whiteheron (4222)
• United States
4 Nov 08
I think that the term getting out the vote is not just encouraging others to vote but also doing your own civic duty by voting.
I believe that in this case, Obama did the right thing in asking people to make sure that they vote and to even take the day off if needed to do so...
I wound up standing for over two hours to vote and the line was huge. I voted last week.
The lines are bound to be very long on Tuesday.
I know one woman with two young children. She is very eager to vote and should be able to vote yet she does not have child care except during work hours, cannot take the young children to the polls as she knows that the poll workers will not allow them in the booth (as she was once a poll worker herself) and is being told by her employer that she might not be able to take off the time unless she can be one of those lucky enough to be able to vote between the hours of 12 and 2 p.m. when others are also going to try to vote...
Can you understand now the request that people take the day off?
There are many people like her who will be standing in line to vote and who will be unable to work as it is expected that in all areas this election turn out will be much greater than it has been in recent history... It seems like the time of the apathetic American is over.
Giving the employer the courtesy of taking the day off appropriately instead of being missing in action at the polls gives the employer notice that the employee will be unavailable so that he or she will not be wondering where the employee is. Giving the employer fair notice by taking the day off is a responsible and honest thing to do.
As far as the other interpretation of getting out the vote goes, he has asked people to serve as poll workers so that people are able to vote, has others volunteering to drive people to the polling place who may not have transportation to them, has people calling people reminding them to vote (as if that is necessary) and also to answer questions that might arise from the latest round of robo scare tactics geared to reduce voter turnout, and has people monitoring the poll places trying to make sure that those who are eligible to vote are not denied their vote.
I do not think that one would have to be for the redistribution of wealth to think that taking off the day to vote would be a good idea... Many on the Right and on the left are for people getting out the vote... voting and helping others vote.
Here in California, people on the Right and on the Left of the aisle are really trying to get out the vote... We have State races, Federal races, and a host of propositions to vote on. The ballot is huge. It takes a long time to wade through it and even longer to study all the information that is sent... Those who vote here, typically undergo a lot of hardship in the voting process as the lines are generally long.
It might be different in other States but I have been hearing that big turn outs are expected all over... They are recommending that people go to the polls early and not count on going in the evening after work. I believe that going during the lunch hour will be an exercise in futility for many people. It may be that many will have to take time off of work to vote whether they like it or not... that is unless they believe that the vote is perhaps not important enough to lose time and money for.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
"Can you understand now the request that people take the day off?"
I do fully understand it. I only disagree with encouraging people to vote who are too intellectually lazy to be informed or too apathetic to care about the election.
If one's polling place is so busy that you have to wait for hours, then by all means, take the day off. I'm just saying don't insist on dragging along an uninformed friend who is only voting because you asked him. Those who know nothing but vote anyway are a big problem. If you have a friend who wants to vote and needs a ride, bring him along. If you have a friend who does not even seem to know there is an election going on, leave him at home.
@whiteheron (4222)
• United States
4 Nov 08
People who are lazy or apathetic or ignorant are going to avoid voting. It takes too long. The ballots are too long, at least in my State, and it is darn difficult to work the machines and to read the ballot let alone vote. I wouldn't think that they would want any part of it. And I am not unhappy about this. I join you in that.
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@whiteheron (4222)
• United States
4 Nov 08
By the way... the "they" who are telling people not to plan on voting in the evening after work hours but to show up early are the representatives for Registrar of Voters in Los Angeles.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
3 Nov 08
You have a point there. I think he also wants to make sure that people really go and vote like those who have their workplace too far away and would not be able to make it to the voting place before or after work. My husband has the entire day off by law (he works for the state). It's nice but not really necessary. Hey, if the people are willing to sacrifice a vacation day, or half day to vote and make sure others vote, it's their prerogative. I have better things to do;)
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Yes, this is what is great about living in a Free Country. People are free to campaign and vote as they see fit within the law.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
0bama is a very likable fellow. I just don't want him for President.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
Everyone should get informed and vote. Those who don't spend the time to learn the issues should stay home.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Personally why would anyone want people to be focusing on other things on Election day besides Voting and the Election unless they have already voted as well. This to me makes no sense, and I wonder what kind of proof they might have on this as well. Personally, I know I have to work tomorrow, and then I will be doing my civic duty and Voting as well. For me, this is one of the most important elections out there, and I feel anyone who chooses to miss this one and not Vote also does not have a say in the matter if things continue to get worse for them, or better as well. This will not be an easy job for either of them for sure.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
You make a good point. No matter who wins, things will not be getting better or change much right away. One person can only do so much.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Well you kind of have to work to take the day off. Obama supporter should be able to do this command from their master with eases, since some of them do not even know what the meaning of work is. To them labor is spitting out another welfare baby. Tomorrow me and my husband will go to work and then go vote, not that hard folks.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
3 Nov 08
I will be voting early, then I'll respond to few myLot posts before working on a freelance software project.
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@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
4 Nov 08
I'm going to spend my entire day doing election work tomorrow. As I'm a writer, arranging my day around what I want to do for democracy is easy. First off, I am going to UMass, paying a bill and making a speech on GLBT issues where I'm going to encourage others to vote, then I'm going to go vote myself around 3. Then, it's home to work for about 2 hours. Then off to a party at my local Obama office.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
You are an informed voter. None of my remarks apply to you.
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
3 Nov 08
Actually, this suggestion, this REQUEST, from Obama just shows even more strongly how LITTLE he really understands the average person, the "little" people who he proposes to help. If he were really in touch with REALITY, he would KNOW that taking the day off work to work in getting people out to vote is not going to be possible for so many people who NEED every HOUR of their paycheck. Much less that it's not so good for bosses, or the coworkers who have to do their share.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
3 Nov 08
"Why encourage the apathetic and ill-informed to cast a ballot?" Because the Obama supporters believe (possibly rightly, since if you never cared before and someone comes directly to your door and tells you all about this Obama and the good things he will do for you...) that these people will tilt the election in Obama's direction. Sad state we're in all around, I'd say.
I hope there are a LOT more rich people than they say there are -- because there will be SO MANY of us in NEED of those handouts when we lose our jobs, after he puts his upside down economic policies in place.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
Just finding other employment for everyone associated with just the coal industry is going to be exceedingly difficult. Then as energy costs rise, people will not have enough money for other products because they spend so much on energy costs. That will result in even more job loss. It will become a downward spiral. One does wonder what 0bama is thinking when he says things.
@samijo719 (1052)
• United States
3 Nov 08
That is just bsolutly ridiculous. Things in the world still need to be done. Does he expect everything to just stop just for him!? Please. I understand it's a VERY important thing to go out and vote but the polls are open from 7am-8pm. Go before or after work, still get your work day in, make money, do you job. It's not that hard. Besides does he really think that people taking the day off work to spread the vote is going to make a difference he's had long enough to campaign. He's had his time.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
4 Nov 08
"Does he expect everything to just stop just for him!?"
Yes, he does. It is going to be a pattern he repeats if he is elected.