.50 centavos decrease in Jeepney fares... do you think that is fair?...
By aseretdd
@aseretdd (13730)
Philippines
November 5, 2008 12:36am CST
They finally decided... because of the 5 peso bigtime rollback... effective today... there will be a .50 centavos decrease in jeepney fare... and 1 peso for buses... do you think that amount is enough... i was actually waiting for a 1 peso jeepney fare rollback... but i was quite stunned when i watched in the news last night that the LTFRB only approved .50 centavos...
When another oil price roll back occurs... it think it is just fare to decrease the fare by another .50 cents... since... that is the right thing to do... so that all commuters will be able to directly enjoy the result of the oil price roll backs...
What can you say about this?...
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20 responses
@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
5 Nov 08
I don't know.. I mean, when the price of oil increased, they could easily raise the fare but, now that its decreasing, they have a hard time decreasing it as well.. I just don't get how something as easy as raising the price of the fair can't be applied on decreasing the fare price now that the price of the oil is decreasing.. not to mention that some of the prices in the market are still high.. and I thought that they'd go down too when the price of oil goes down..
Anyway, is the fifty centavo decrease fair? I guess not.. well for me that is.. I mean, why only fifty centavos and not a whole peso or two?
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
I feel like some government officials are now afraid of the group of Jeepney drivers and bus operators... since they showed how they can stage a protest when they stormed the offices of the big oil companies... if only commuters can do the same... or something to that effect... i think we can also command the proper fare rollback...
Thanks for the response...
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@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
Oh that.. some could do the protest while others still just go along with how things are happening since, 'we'd just waste a day on protesting when we could've earned it like how we do it every tiring day..' as a jeepney driver stated whilst his other fellow drivers tried to convince him and others who are still driving their jeeps to stop and join the protest.. say, how long was the longest protest ever enacted by a group of people?
Things with protest would be that most of the time, it ends up passive.. though, it would indeed be nice if such an organized protest could be conceived and delivered by those who won't sway into being passive, reality does eat more of one's will than whatever one's principles can provide, as their principles are kept and maintained through the ordeal..
Our government had already endured numerous protests that it doesn't scare them anymore.. (-_-")
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
I myself am not the type of person who would join protests... but when there is really a need for one... i think i will join... some protests no long have any credibility because there are times when the subject they are protesting about is somewhat like unreasonable... like asking for a 500 peso salary increase... or the constant demand for GMA to step down... these kinds of protest do more harm than good... not that i support GMA... i don't anymore...
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
We also have to understand that Jeepney drivers also depend solely on their earnings in their PUV. A little rollback may be a big impact on their budgets too. If you would consider they have this increase only after several price increases in the fuel cost. so its just understandable that they are also trying to earn as much as they could from the recently provided increase.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
8 Nov 08
That is indeed a factor to consider... but since the LTFRB issued fare matrix for those jeepney with longer routes during the fare increase... they should also make another one for the current adjustment... since some drivers would surely take advantage of the situation by taking the .50 cent decrease literally...
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
That is a very nice positive outlook... that we should be thankful that at least they decreased the fare... but for some who is solely dependent on puv's... and those who hardly make ends meet... this .50 cent roll back is not even substantial... let us just pray that more will come as more oil price roll backs will happen...
Thanks for the response...
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
5 Nov 08
Don’t be shocked dear, thank your lucky starts that there has been some decrease and hence some respite for the commoners. Here in India, the prices of everything shot up with rising global prices. Now that the oil prices have reduced, I am yet to see any reduction in anything apart from edible oil. The most surprising thing is that everybody is to blame for this. When the prices were on the rise, the newspapers had it on front page…now when they are down, it’s no longer a hot news anymore. Similarly, when the prices of other commodities went up, every ministry in the Govt justified it by saying that all commodities have to be transported from place to place and hence increase in oil prices, increased the transportation costs. But now that the oil prices are down, no ministry is ready to decrease the prices of its own commodity by saying that several ‘other’ factors are also responsible for regulating prices and oil alone is not the benchmark. So we consumers are stuck there where we are…for us, the prices always goes up, never comes down. At least in your country, transportation costs (which are a major part of everybody’s monthly budget) will be more manageable now.
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
9 Feb 09
Dearest, this post was written about two months back when there was an election coming in your country and hence the reduction in fares. Now listen to this…after all this time, the govt in India has reduced the price of oil, just because now WE have the general elections coming up…in keeping with the election fever, all state govt have similarly reduced the cost of several things, including transportation costs! As if they have just woken up to cheap global oil! Seems we should have elections every year now!
BTW thnx for the BR
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
In my country... since the national elections are less than two years away... politicians who dream of becoming president are making a lot of effort to look good in front of the public... and they see this oil price rollback as a great method to show off... and this fare decrease is somewhat a move to satisfy both commuter and the transportation group...
But all Filipino commuters would agree that the .50 centavos is not enough...
Thanks for the response...
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
In the US... when oil prices increase or decreas... the ones affected are the car owners... and i think most Americans own a car or two... and i have never heard bus fares increase or decrease in your country... but in a country like mine where most people do not have cars... and depend on these Jeepneys and buses for transportation everyday... a substantial fare rollback is very much needed...
Thanks for the response...
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
Now i understand... when i worked abroad... the bus ride was free but it was time consuming waiting for one all the time... so it was better to drive a car since parking was not really a problem... but i never read or watch any news about Americans complaining about the bus fare...
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
6 Nov 08
That actually depends where one lives. Although most of us have cars it is not always possible to park near where we have to go, so I took a bus to work for many years, and I can tell you that the price went up. But in my experience it never went down.
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@summersatine (85)
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7 Nov 08
its very disgusting really. as if they have a rool back...come to think of it, when they have fare increase- they put a peso-increase in every succeeding kilometers.. but when they have roll back- only .50cents? where do they getting such an idiot computation.. isnt it they were trying to fool us??
Is's only in the philippines...
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
This is why the LTFRB should make another fare matrix... since most drivers and operators would surely take this .50 centavo decrease literally... i have yet to take a jeepney ride going to another city to see for myself how much they decrease the fare...
Thanks for the response... welcome to mylot and i hope you enjoy every minute of your stay here...
@summersatine (85)
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7 Nov 08
thanks.. very much enjoying.. here in my hometown other puj operators decreased fare prices up to 2p. but in the city, nahh.. they never really care--just as long as you will complain personally then they will tell you its only in capital region (like NCR)whew-- best way to reason out...lol
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@Roseo8 (2947)
• India
5 Nov 08
ha..ha...in my place just yesterday they increased the auto taxi fares .....and these are vehicles used by the common man like your jeepney.......Now I cannot understand what is happening to my government....We were all expecting an announcement from the authorities about decrease in petrol and diesel prices and got a rude shock yesterday when this announcemnet came........I wonder how they will justify this move with elections round the corner........sigh....
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
My goodness... that is just unfair... it is but right to decrease the fare since oil prices drastically decreased in the past few weeks... organizations in your country should question such a move... if that happens in my country... i believe that all hell will break lose... and i myself will go to the streets and join the protests...
Thanks for the response...
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
14 Apr 09
it is hard to comment on this one, i guess the real affected people here are those who always ride the jeepney and will have to pay the fare. it is not fair to easily increase it and will not decrease it if the prices go down.. honestly speaking though, prices of the oil is still not stable and it is still increasing and decreasing for some time.. until it stabilizes, we can not say they have to decrease the fares already.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
14 Apr 09
The fare is already 7 php... meaning it was already decreased 3 times... and that is a good thing for those who are dependent on riding the jeepney to work or school... since the money they are able to save can be used to buy other important things...
Thanks for the response...
@andak2007 (3229)
• Philippines
17 Nov 08
for me it is not fair because the oil price is on rollback already and they are in huge profits already and why give us only 50cents?when they were demanding for fare hike they were not asking for cents only but in whole peso...why now they are giving us cents only?the commuters are the only ones that are always suffering...it is really not fair.
@gr8life (6251)
• Malaysia
4 Apr 09
Hello aseretdd,
It has been 6 months ago and till now, there is no more good news. I don't understand a thing - the price of petrol has gone down and the cost is quite alright for people who own a car like us. But why the public transports even here, still fighting with the government to get their price increased? I just don't understand that part...
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
6 Apr 09
The transportation fare in my country has already been decreased 3 times... but now that oil prices are starting to increase again... there is now talk on increasing the fare by .50 centavos... i hope it would just stay that way...
Thanks for the response...
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@braveheart07 (2601)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
I think the 50 centavos rollback is not that fair or enough. The prices of the oil have been decreasing constantly since these past several months. In addition, we will still be expecting a rollback for this upcoming month.
If possible, they should have reduced it to 1 to 1.50, so that all commuters will be able to enjoy the oil price rollbacks. :-)
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
Welcome back braveheart07... its been a long time since i have seen you here... well a lot of those who responded to this discussions agree that the .50 rollback is not enough... and if indeed oil prices will decrease further... then they can no longer make any excuses not to roll back the fare price by another .50 centavos...
Thanks for the response...
@braveheart07 (2601)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
Thanks for your warm welcome. Yeah, I have been very busy these past several months that's why I rarely visit here. I really missed my friends here in myLot. God speed!
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@tryxiness (4544)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
I have to agree with you, that there should be fare roll back too in the process, BUT, if they insist that there should not be, I have to demand that the next time an oil increase happens, the commuters should be shield from an increase in fare.
The jeepney drivers and operators have gained a lot in the oil price roll back.
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@mrbrownedeye (781)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
practically as a commuter i couldn't agree with that decision a 50 cents decrease it should be at least 1 peso would be enough for us. but still we cannot argue about that, they are the one who decide. the rollback of oil price would be favor to the motorist but not to some commuters, perhaps. not fair.
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
I agree... when it comes to the oil issue... those without vehicles are like the least affected... but when it comes to giving use our due... it seems like we are the most neglected... and that is certainly unfair...
Thanks for the response... welcome to mylot and i hope you enjoy every minute of your stay here...
@icecroft (449)
• Philippines
13 Feb 09
I'm having mixed opinions on this issue. But I think, as a commuter, it would be more helpful if the rollback on the jeepney fare is always proportional to the decrease in oil prices. If we're talking about fairness, then that one is technically fair. We are all making a living in an honest way and despite the fact that these drivers do work really hard (hence, some people thinking it's okay), we must also think practically during these tough times.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
13 Feb 09
Well, we have seen a substantial decrease on the price of diesel... so i think another fare rollback is due... since that i think is fair... and i agree that we are all making a living... so we all need to consider all aspects with regards to this matter...
Thanksf for the response...
@allen0187 (58582)
• Philippines
5 Nov 08
the fare rollback is really small. in my opinion, it should have been at least P1. i understand that transport groups are still recuperating from their losses but the price of oil has been reduced already and i think it's time for the transport sector to give something back to the masses by further lowering the fare.
this will be a great gift for the holidays.
just my thoughts.
although...
i think all of this is just part of malacanang palace's plot to take the attention away from jocjoc bolante and the fertilizer scam. the thief pretending to be president and her cohorts are behind this. i know this is absurd but this is the first thing that entered my mind when i heard about the oil price rollback. this serves as a good smokescreen to whatever bolante will divulge about the scam that clearly favored the thief in the last elections.
THIEF!!!THIEF!!!THIEF!!!
sorry for the off-topic and the rant.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
Yes, the fare rollback is indeed very small... and some jeepney drivers have not even decreased it yet... and the LTFRB did not say if they will issue a new fare matix... becaue some drivers will surely take this .50 decrease literally... and would not even bother to compute when travel distance is long...
And i agree... this is indeed a ploy to take media attention away from Joc Joc Bolante... but i think nothing the government is not successful... because people are clamouring for Joc Joc to speak up and tell the truth...
Thanks for the response...
@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
I guess they are still selling the old stock which they bought at a high price... and the decrease in LPG prices will take effect after a few days... when they get the new stock... but i believe the fare should have been decreased by at least 1 peso...
Thanks for the response...
@iyah10 (4115)
• Kuwait
5 Nov 08
No, as I heard in the news that it is not fare for the fare to decrease only for .50 centavo for the oil in the market is already been decreasing in how many times for the roll back of the desired price if it will concern for the people which is the commuters as it is not so fair........and as I hear for this woman it is better to decrease in 1 peso as it could give a one piece of bread of pandesal in the morning and one in the afternoon and for sure it would help a lot for the people.....
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
Well, we all feel that way... but they said that the additional .50 cent... will only be given if oil prices become 35 php or less... and i think that is very unlikely... since oil companies would always say that they will lose a lot of money if they do that... and they would just say that the government should remove the vat if they want oil prices to go down more...
Thanks for the response...
@iamcdy (1119)
• Philippines
5 Nov 08
I don't think that it is fair. It should have been peso 1.0 or 1.50 decrease for jeepney fare! The price of gasoline and diesel had tremendously went down already and only .50 centavos was the decrease on our fare? And I just heard from the news that the implementation will be on Monday (November 7th) because the drivers asked for an extension. I really think that it is unfair.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
I definitely agree with you... it is just a good thing that drivers in my area already implemented this decrease... i just hope that the LTFRB will issue a new fare matix... because if they don't... a lot of drivers will sure take advantage of the situation...
Thanks for the response...
@SeishiroX (1093)
• Philippines
6 Nov 08
That's a mockery of our rights as citizens. Given the 2 peso increase, the 0.50 centavos decrease is something similar to what you give a kid when he's crying so loudly: a candy. You can't even buy a candy for 50 cents these days here in the Philippines.
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@aseretdd (13730)
• Philippines
7 Nov 08
I agree with you... with the current market price of all commodities... .50 centavos is like close to nothing... and right now... all of us commuter can only wait for more oil price rollback so that we can demand for more fare decrease...
Thanks for the response...