My Disappointment Will Eventually Be Vindicated!!
By rodney850
@rodney850 (2145)
United States
November 6, 2008 6:51am CST
Yesterday I was very busy so I was unable to partcipate on MyLot. First let me be as gracious a loser as John McCain and congratulate Barack Obama and all of his supporters. That said, let me get to the topic of my discussion.
Myself, along with 56+ million other voters in the US were obviously disappointed in the results of this election. It was a hard fought and seemingly endless affair. Although I believe America is strong and resilliant and will survive almost anything (hey we survived Clinton, didn't we, lol)I also believe that a couple of years down the line there will be about 64 million very dissillusioned citizens of the US. I don't believe Barack Obama will be able to follow through with a third of his promises and the ones he does follow through with will be so convoluted they will be almost unrecognizeable!
Let's face it, Obama inherits an economy that is not fairing too well right now and along with it he inherits the same congress that intentionally let it get that way. That's right folks, if you thought that the president controlled the economy you are going to see just how dead wrong you are. The president can make strong suggestions and threaten veto but guess what? Congress has just about become all powerful with a veto proof majority so even IF Obama were to want to go against his own party they pretty much could thumb their noses at him, and most likely will!
This congress,by admission of it's leaders, believes it can deficit spend it's way to financial solvency and I'm here to tell you, that dog won't hunt! How many of you people have gotten into a financial bind at home and the first thing you did was make it worse by borrowing money? Of course there are times you can borrow and consolidate but the bottom line is you just aquired more debt and in the end if that is not controlled it will cause your financial collapse!
Finally, I don't believe we (America) are going to enjoy the next 4 years and I believe it would have been that way no matter who won the election. We have some very hard times ahead of us and I just wanted to warn some people away from the "free bubble-up" mentality because that just isn't going to be the way it goes!
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I think Obama made a lot of promises he is not going to be able to keep. Especially with how the ecomony is. HE is not even going to be able to focus on a lot of stuff he said because he will be dealing with two wars and the ecomony. He definately is on the route to be considered a bad president. There is no way he can accomplish everything he promised. I figure he is going to spend the first few months deflating everyones espectations of him. He pumped everyone up to elected him and now he will have to deflate them because he knows he can not deliver on most of it. He has not even said what his plan is for getting rid of the deficit. I am interesting in seeing what it will be.
He is going to have problems with Congress unless he just follows his party lines. Which is kinda what the American public elected him NOT to do. We will have to see what happens there.
Plus the 56+million that did not vote for him will not be happy with the policies that he does try to push through. I really do not think his rating levels will be that great after the first two years.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Lilwonders,
Thanks for the comment.
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but I just don't see him being able to do all that he said he would either. I believe his agenda will be changed for him as much as by him.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Well, it's like I keep telling my parents - the republicans may have lost, but there's a silver lining in the clouds. That is, if crap hits the fans and bad things start to happen, the people don't have a republican to blame. The executive and legislative branches are both controlled by democrats. So there's no more of this "stupid republican messed everything up" bologna.
That probably sounds terribly partisan. While I never liked Bush, I didn't blame all of society's ills on him, unlike some people. The same will happen with out next president.
I agree with you, though. I'm not looking forward to the next 4 years. I'm not freaking like my friends and family, but I definitely have a bad feeling about it. I sincerely hope Obama is anywhere near as good as he and his supporters think he is.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I agree that they will be blaming Bush. I've already been hearing people on Fox News say things like, he's "inheriting" an economic mess and "inheriting" a ton of problems around the world. It's going to be nothing is his fault -- BUT, if he fails to give these help and jobs, fails to spread the wealth, they might have to blame him.
I am praying that he is good and honest and does a good job. Ever the optimist, I'm hoping he is "the one" who has finally figured out a way to balance welfare and growing the economy at the same time!
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Latrivia,
Thanks for the comment.
I hope for the best also. I am the eternal optimist but I also mix in a little realism with it. Will we survive? Of course! Maybe not as well off or as easily as BHO portrayed in his campaign rhetoric but survive we will. I'm also agree that GWB wasn't the cause of even half of our problems as a nation. The people who voted Obama in will realize that a little later on when the true villans (congress) run rampant!
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
6 Nov 08
They will spend the next four years still blaming everything on Bush. ANYTHING that goes wrong will be blamed on Bush. They will just claim it was something left over from his presdency. You have to admit he left them a mess so it is the perfect scapegoat. You will be hearing it's bush's fault for a long long time. Most people will buy it hook line and sinker because he was so unpopular.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Obama is on the route to becoming the most unpopular President in the history of the USA. He simply has raised expectations to impossible levels. I predict he will make excuses for himself by blaming racism for his failures. This will result in race relations being set back by about 50 years.
I hope I'm wrong. Instead, I hope Barrack Obama makes the most of the glorious opportunity he has earned with his hard work.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
6 Nov 08
RYBD,
Thanks for the comment.
I hope we are both wrong for everyone's sake. The problem I see is that just about the time Obama get's his feet on the ground some third world country is going to see just how far they can step over the line and then all bets are off!
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
6 Nov 08
The question is where do we go from here. We had two bad elections, but has the GOP learn anything from it. Punishment is a good teacher, but if you refuse to learn anything you will continue to be punished. To regain the Congress in 2010 the minority has to show the rest of America that they should be in charge. Yes I agree with you Obama should flop, but if the congressional GOP is not ready to clean up, they will not be in a position to capitalize on the Democrats mistakes. Think about this Rodney our party is holding onto the filibuster option because of a felon from Alaska, and the leaders in pork barrel spending. The GOP in the senate will be lead by a guy that won re-election by campaigning on how much pork he has brought back to Kentucky. Sorry about the rant but we cannot just hope the the Democrats screw up, but the GOP has to improve itself.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Gewcew,
Thanks for the comment.
I totally agree that the republicans have to get back to their conservative roots or face extinction. Pork barrel and earmark spending has to stop if America is to get back on her feet again economically.
By the way, did you notice that at the polls on the voting machine that the ticket of McCain/Palin was not listed as "republican"? They were listed as "green", what's up with that?
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
6 Nov 08
This was in Arkansas, I don't know about the rest of the nation.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Very well said. Unfortunately the most important part of your discussion is " I don't believe we (America) are going to enjoy the next 4 years and I believe it would have been that way no matter who won the election." That is so very true! Yesterday the market dropped again and already this morning (10:30am) it is down again. Democrats are known not to really have the same financial savvy as Republicans and the foreign markets are very aware of that. Obama's tax plans are not in favor of the wealthy which does not help the market or the unemployment.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Whiteheather,
Thanks for the comment.
Yeah, that was another thing you couldn't drive into an Obama supporters head with a sledge hammer. The stock market, whether we like it or not, is the virtual transmission of our economic engine. It is also very forward looking and if the investors see danger or a need to pull out now, they won't hesitate and the people who will suffer the most are the ones Obama said he wanted to help the most.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I believe that many of the voters, especially a lot of the younger people, are of the "I want it now" mentality and will not be open to allowing a lot of time pass before they see results. They want universal healthcare NOW, they want tax cuts NOW, they want everything NOW - they don't understand that these things take time and they most certainly understand that there may be a lot of what Obama has promised that he will not be able to deliver.
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@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Newtondak,
Thanks for the comment.
These are the people who are going to get upset and disgruntled first. The ones who are in the "gimme" line and thought the government and an Obama presidency would solve ALL of their problems when MOST of their problems are self-inflicted due to squandered opportunities and lack of ambition. The ones who decided an education was either a waste of time or not worth the effort. The ones who have decided that starting at the bottom and working their way up was not the route they deserve to take. These are going to be the ones who are the most disappointed and they will feel betrayed.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I have also encountered a number that think that "universal healthcare" equates to FREE healthcare - they don't understand that SOMEONE has to pay for it - in countries that currently have universal healthcare, that is either by each recipient paying premiums, just like insurance, or through taxes - either way the majority of us are going to have to pay.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Sure, I am disappointed, but at the same time this is an opportunity.
The press and the liberals have been blaming Bush for the economy, and 0bama basically ran his campaign against Bush... not McCain... citing the "past eight years of failed policies" or words to that effect.
We now have a democrat president with a democrat government. Now they have no one to blame but themselves for what happens.
In fave, we have had a democrat Congress for the last two years... and the economy didn't run into problems until after the democrats took control.
I for one, intend to give the democrat president-elect 0bama the same measure of respect and courtesy that the democrats afforded President Bush during his time in office.
My one question would be this... how is 0bama going to react the first time some Congressman goes to another country and undermines his authority against his specific instructions in violation of the Logan Act like Pelosi and a few others did last year?
This is going to be a very interesting thing to see.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I agree Destiny, except I don't think we should give Obama the same respect and courtesy that democrats gave Bush! THAT IS UN AMERICAN! I think we should support Obama, while remaining guarded about our expectations. No one deserves the treatment they gave Bush from DAY 1 -- not even a Democrat!
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I agree...I think there are going to be a whole lot of disappointed Obamabots running around before long. Hell, his speech on Election night was filled with how he might not be able to deliver all the promises and it may take years to get things going...and when it doesn't happen he'll blame everyone else. It'll never be his fault.
To be perfectly honest, I hope Bush declares Martial Law and demands that he's eligible to be elected as President. I still find it awfully suspicious that he had his birth certificate sealed...but then the Obamabots will say that's all nonesense b/c none of them want to admit that there's anything wrong with their Messiah.
[b]~~MY OWN PEACE WITHIN~~
**STAND STRONG AND BELIEVE IN YOURSELF**[/b]
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
6 Nov 08
BTW, I also think that while he's demanding a birth certificate he should investigate into all the voter fraud, intimidation and voter registration fraud, not to mention the Acorn connection and the illegal contributions.
[b]~~MY OWN PEACE WITHIN~~
**STAND STRONG AND BELIEVE IN YOURSELF**[/b]
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
6 Nov 08
I'm dissapointed, too, Rodney. I'm still trying to reconsile myself to the possibility of a Barack Obama presidency should he really take the oath of office in January. So far, I still get an uncomfortable, foreboding feeling(my red flag)
when I think about it so I have not been watching the news. However, now that he has been elected I am trying to honor the democratic process that put him there, even though I'm not too optimitic. I'm willing to give Obama a chance to do the things he promised, but he has already qualified himself in one of his speeches, that, "we may not be able to accomplish everything in four years, or even eight years," and I hope that isn't a metaphor for saying I realize I cannot fulfill those promises I made. Only time will tell.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
6 Nov 08
"we may not be able to accomplish everything in four years, or even eight years,"
actualy that was a metaphore for..."Ok, Bush isn't going to be here to blame anymore, the democrats controll congress so we can't blame them, how do we get around this now".
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
6 Nov 08
He said even before the election that the transition process MUST be handled very carefully so that hope doesn't become despair, when they see all these things cannot happen immediately. I think he's said it a few times. Also, he's said that the recession will worsen.
I don't think people heard him -- they were too deeply into the euphoria.
I hope and pray he does well. But I have doubts.
I actually think he ran his campaign sort of "left-center", not far left. BUT I am afraid he IS far left because of various other statements and speeches from the past, plus some of the more extreme points during the campaign.
@rodney850 (2145)
• United States
6 Nov 08
Clrumfelt,
Thanks for the comment.
I believe we are going to see quite a bit of "crawfishing" between now and inauguration day. I believe we will be more able to assess Barack Obama's saavy with his choices for his cabinet and staff. His ability, or lack thereof, to surround himself with knowledgeable and experienced people instead of friends and colleagues will be the determining factor.
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