Train whistles--are they code or random?
By dragon54u
@dragon54u (31634)
United States
November 9, 2008 11:56am CST
I've been listening to the trains running through my town for more than a year now and they seem to follow a pattern sometimes. One long, one short then one long. At times it's two short and one long. There are many combinations but they don't sound random.
Does anyone know if the way they sound the train whistles mean anything?
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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9 May 11
Oh to have a whistling train. Ours make a Bee Baa or Baarp sound and are used to warn people that they are on their way. Guards on passenger trains blow their whistles when the train is ready to depart - that is for the driver and tells him that manual doors are closed, everyone is on board and the attractive young lady has been tied to the track a mile ahead by the ghastly bad man who has kidnapped her rather than have her marry her true love. There's an awful lot of unpunctuated sentence there.
Of cours sometimes the whistle blowing tells us that we are bound for Morning Town many miles away...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YP7GCXqdqU
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 May 11
LOL! You have adventurous trains there! I would much rather have the whistles than the bee baa baarp. But you have passenger trains while ours are mostly for freight. I would love to be able to travel from town to town on a train--and have decent public transit in the towns! It's just not feasible right now because our country is totally geared toward cars and public transit is a joke.
I never heard that song by the Seekers, the only one I remember from them is "Georgie Girl". That's a nice song in the YouTube link, though.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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9 May 11
I love train travel but is extremely expensive. More people are heading for the bus where you can travel from one side of the country to the other for £5 ($8) if you shop carefully. The train costs more than ten times that amount! I loved the Seekers - well Judith Durham. She is still singing in Australia.
@coffeegurl (1467)
• United States
9 Nov 08
I suppose it depends on the train and where u are located.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
10 Nov 08
I saw my dad today, he worked on the railroad in the 40's and he told me the whistles do mean something but could only remember a couple of them. So now I know!
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
8 May 11
I was sure that train whistles do have a meaning and so I went to look it up. It was only then that I noticed that you posted this THREE YEARS AGO!
Of course, Wikipedia has the answer, though it may not be the full and complete one. It says that, in North America, the following codes are used:
('o' = a short sound; '-' = a longer sound.)
Succession of short sounds: Used when an emergency exists, or if persons or livestock are on the track.
– When train is stopped. The air brakes are applied and pressure is equalized.
– – Train releases brakes and proceeds.
o o Acknowledgment of any signal not otherwise provided for.
o o o When train is stopped: means backing up, or acknowledgment of a hand signal to back up.
o o o o Request for a signal to be given or repeated if not understood.
– o o Warning that a second section of a timetabled train is following.
– o o o Instruction for flagman to protect rear of train.
– – – – Flagman return from the west or south.
– – – – – Flagman return from the east or north.
– – o – Train is approaching public grade crossing(s). This is known as Rule 14L in almost all railroad operating rules.
– o Inspect the brake system for leaks or sticking brakes.
There are plenty more, it seems!
The whole history (including codes in other countries) is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train_whistle
There is something, as you say, very 'lonesome' about American train whistles, especially at night. Here in the UK we now have two-tone horns and the effect is humorous, if anything, rather than lonesome!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 May 11
What a pleasant surprise to see this in my mailbox!
I'll save this so I can see what they are saying when I hear them. I like to hear the trains. When I was in the Southwest there were very few trains and I went for 28 years without hearing a train whistle more than a few times. Here in the Midwest (home at last) I can hear them every day.
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
10 Dec 08
i was about to make this discussion today lol.. i have a train that goes through my back yard and some times when they go buy they will honk/whistle 1 time and the other day this guy did it like 20 times and drove me crazy!!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
10 Dec 08
Go ahead and make another discussion! It would be interesting to read! I don't get a lot of replies to my discussions as a general rule but those I do get are pretty helpful. I would like to read about others' experience with trains and what they think about the whistles.
Was there an incident on the tracks shortly after the guy whistled all that time? I guess, from reading replies and talking with my dad that used to work on a train, that they are whistling because they're approaching a crossing. A lot of whistles can mean something is on the track and there is an emergency.
@miraclefreebies (3043)
• United States
12 Nov 08
We used to live close to a train track in two different locations and it was very annoying listening to it pass by everynight around the same time.I think it has some type of codes, it makes sense to me.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I found out from my dad that there is a code, that makes sense.
When I was a child, hearing a train at night made me feel incredibly lonesome for some reason. I knew that if I was hearing the train it was very, very late and I would be tired the next morning--I've always had trouble sleeping! Now, though, I love to hear them. Trains are one of the things I missed so desperately when I was stuck in Arizona for 28 years.
@salute2troops (1)
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2 Apr 11
The trains horn where I live, sometimes seems to take on the form of perhaps some form of morse code I ran across this info recently on a site called trains.com ABC's of Railroading Introducing the horn section
New locomotives now use a horn "button" Instead of easing into the chord
(air horn chime chords - aka musical note combinations), the push-button yields a perfect, computer-like performance. Some railroads even have buttons that play a perfect - - 0 - - at grade crossings
It's the digital age, so code is doable
But when it comes to trains and the pattern, it is now suppose to be a standard
pattern of 2 long one short one long See FRA Federal Train Horn Rule but not all trains seem to be following those new guidelines, but it would appear that
when it comes to the decibels being 110 dB maximum and a 96 dB minimum, the trains horns just keep getting louder and louder, at least where I live
And if they were a code, I highly doubt they would go around admitting that fact
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
2 Apr 11
I have found since I asked this that trains do have signals they blast for approaching crossings and other occasions. I was just thinking again about them last night as I was counting the whistles.
I talked with my dad about this a couple of weeks ago, he worked on the railroad in the 40's with his father and occasionally he got to pull the whistle when he was off duty and just riding. He likes the new digital whistles, as they leave less room for mistakes.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
11 Nov 08
I don't have any idea since I only rode the train a couple of times while being abroad. We don;t have any trains in my country.
© ronaldinu 2008
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
11 Nov 08
I got curious a couple weeks ago and looked up Malta. I was surprised to find it is a series of islands! It may not have trains but it sounds like a very nice place to live!
@silkyt34 (324)
• United States
10 Nov 08
well since my husband is an engineer for the railroad i happen to know that the whistles you are hearing are i guess you would call them codes.. they have to blow the whistles a certain way for the crossings and when they are coming to a populated crossing its supposes to be two long and one short until they have crossed thru the crossing hope that answers your question
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
10 Nov 08
It does, thank you! I just wonder why the general population isn't aware of that. There are a lot of crossings with no gates-but then again, if I heard a train whistle of any type, I'd be extra cautious. I stop and look anyway,whistle or not. I don't argue with vehicles millions of times my car's weight!
@SangsTurks (1444)
• India
10 Nov 08
Yes there are certain codes that are used but i am not sure which ones! There are i believe long whistle to idicate that the lines ahead are clear and that the train is going to cross with out stopping. I might be wrong but this is my best guess. How have you been? too busy working i guess
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
10 Nov 08
Very busy working, thank God! According to my dad who used to work on the railroad (I saw him Sunday and thought to ask him) if you hear a really long whistle that means they see something bad about to happen, like a car on the tracks. Two longs and a short mean they're coming up to the crossing and two shorts and a long was to tell the guy in back to hurry up and make the signal to go because they were going to be late if he didn't!
I'm not here as much as I was but I'm very happy at my job and hope it lasts a good long while! I hope you're doing well, too!