The BAILOUT -- we gotta DO something!!!

United States
November 9, 2008 6:46pm CST
I've heard this 4 times now: Donald Trump, a Democrat governor, a republican commentator, and another commentator whose id I didn't catch. They are all saying that part of the reason things are getting worse is because the banks that were given money in the bailout in order to create liquidity -- for them to make loans and give credit so the markets and businesses can function properly again -- are instead using the money to buy into other banks!!!! Donald Trump said no one can get credit for anything, no matter how much they are credit worthy, no matter how good their project. When asked what the President and Congress should do at this point to improve our economy, Donald Trump said if someone can get on those banks and make them give credit again. If y'all remember, that was the main point of approving the bailout. That was the main reason Obama, McCain, Bush and others went ahead reluctantly and did the bailout, so that the credit market would function and the frozen credit market would not continue to put other businesses under and cause more layoffs. Instead they are keeping credit frozen and buying up failing banks. I think it is time for the people to start a barrage of letters and phone calls to all Congress men and women and to the President, demanding that these bank be REQUIRED to use the money in the way it was intended. The whole country is suffering and the banks are still lining their pockets -- and the Dems want another stimulus package. We need to raise our voices loud and long and insist that another stimulus package is not passed until the bailout is being administered PROPERLY. And any future packages MUST have requirements in them to keep the "bailees" in line, and no pork. What does everyone think?
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9 responses
• United States
10 Nov 08
There was so much pressure for that thing to go through by the masses. I think it went through just because of that reason. Sometimes people want things, and they have no idea what it can do in the long run.
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• United States
10 Nov 08
Pressure by the masses? All I saw was blatant disapproval by most people at the time. Hundreds of protests across the nation. The biggest ones were in New York city.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
10 Nov 08
Disapproval was all I saw too. In fact a number of elected officials who supported the bailout were ousted last Tuesday. I thought it was necessary but most people seemed to feel exactly the opposite.
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• United States
10 Nov 08
The talk around here was that people wanted it to go through because they thought they would get something out of it. And I do not understand why if the people didn't want it to go through...why was Obama for it...he needed their votes, didn't he? Here is a link that show both Obama and McCain were for it. It certainly did not hurt Obama. http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=9087196&nav=menu132_3_5
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• United States
10 Nov 08
Surely the government has some kind of audit in place to control where the money is being spent? I can't believe they could just spend it on whatever they wanted and not what it was intended for.
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• United States
10 Nov 08
Well that was something I believe Pres Bush wanted in there, or McCain -- someone was asking for it, but I believe they didn't get their way! Unbelievable!!! Oh, I made a mistake -- Donald Trump didn't say that the banks are buying options on other banks, but the other 3 did. Trump just said for some reason the banks aren't issuing credit and until they do, nothing will get better at all.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
10 Nov 08
I wouldn't put it past them to spend the money trying to buy into the banks that are teetering. Those guys have to be watched and I think that's where the baifail. AIG (The insruance company that gave the luxury weekend to it's execs after it collapsed, just came back and got another big chunk of change. At this point, I think that ifthey can't do what they're supposed to do, they should be told to give back the money and it and all future money can go to Detroit. Maybe the auto industry will do a better job with bailout money. Maybe they can create some good jobs for Americans and build some cars that aren't bad for the environment.
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@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
10 Nov 08
Um...I'm sorry, I mean no disrespect here...but I don't know why this is a surprise to anyone. What did everyone expect? The banks were awful enough to make themselves so fat, that when they fell they flattened the economy. Why would giving them free money when they cried, make them change? I don't get it. Alot of people said "Oh we need safegaurds" (whether they meant it or not, who can honestly say?)...but the final bill did not have safeguards -- it DID have alot of stuff that didn't even have anything to do with saving the economy, in it, though. It just let Paulson have unchecked power to give the banks money willy-nilly. Congress frequently questions Bernanke and Paulson about their decisions, especially misconduct done by the banks (like treating their whole staff to a spa retreat and crap like that)...but nothing really gets done about it and this stuff continues on anyway. POSSIBLY this might change in January. But I won't hold my breath. All the same, I still doubt that the bail out will do that much good. Especially the longer this goes on. And the fact remains that you have to get that money to bail out the banks from somewhere. If they relocated money from some other project to this one, then I wouldn't mind. But it's unlikely for them to do this, they'll probably borrow it from some other nation (more and more countries are wary of doing this now, considering how much debt we're in nationally)...or printing it. Which would either mean more debt, or more inflation..which would mean quick and bad effects. Stimulus packages are pretty much the same deal. You have to get that money from somewhere. They printed that money, instead of simply returning taxpayer money as would've been wise. I've encouraged protests, and I encourage people to not re-elect those who voted YES on the bail out (considering the shoddy piece of legislatin we ended up with). Unless we do more protests, angry letters, or some other sort of rebellion...I'm not sure how else we can truly express to them how upsetting this all is. At least, to fully convey how seriously they should be taking this instead of continuing on old habits for profit and not for the people, like they were hired to do. So...BLAGH.
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• United States
10 Nov 08
I think it's terrible, what has happened - and just like you said, it's all because no one would stand up to the crazy crap that was being done! Credit is still available, only now it is harder to qualify for it. Gone are the days of 100% financing anything, and no more "no verifying" of assets or income, which is what got us into this mess. The "professionals" were putting their customers - the ones they're supposed to be taking care of - into loans they could not afford, nor would have qualified for had their income had to be verified!
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
10 Nov 08
I have to agree that the President, our Senators and our Representatives need to be doing whatever is necessary to insure that those receiving tax dollars to bail them out of their financial problems are using them as intended. Unfortunately, if the legislation that was passed didn't include any conditions as to what the recipients were to do with the money, there is nothing that can be done. I am afraid that our legislators just "assumed" that giving these banks money would free up credit and did not write anything into the legislation that required them to do so.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
10 Nov 08
You've got a good point there. They shored themselves up but it looks like the average person isn't reaping any benefit if the ability to get credit is still frozen. It seems that some requirements should have been put in place...and weren't...but maybe it's not too late if folks speak out about this.
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@phoenix25 (1541)
• United States
11 Nov 08
When you say that nobody can get credit for anything, what exactly do you mean? I don't have great credit and me and my husband just bought a used car with financing last month. Are you talking about people getting credit directly from banks to finance things like business and home improvements?
@Sam41855 (26)
• United States
10 Nov 08
I personally think that someone should put Donald Trump in charge of something regarding the money and economy........he is smart and always seems to succeed at every endeavor, even rebuilding when he was supposedly broke.
• United States
10 Nov 08
I agree. We need to put limits and transparancy in these blank checks...which we are going to be writing many more of before it's all said and done. To see why bailouts are necessary, watch Zietgeist Addendum (October 2008) at www.zeitgeistmovie.com . We can't stop it, the President can't stop it, but it's good that we're trying. Keep fighting the good fight! :-D