A question about all this race talk and Obama

United States
November 10, 2008 11:03am CST
I am hearing a lot about how electing Obama has really moved thing forward in race relations in this country. That it proves this country is not racist. Or at least the majorit of America. That really does not make sense to me. So on November 4th we are racist? On Novemebr 5th we aren't? I think race relations in this country were not as bad as people thought. IT just took Obama being elected to make people realize it. Which is sad. It also short changes Obama. I do not think the majority of America voted for him because of the color of his skin. I do not think the people that voted against him did it because of his skin. It was about policies, not skin color. Yes Obama getting elected is a historic event because he was the first. But that could be more to do with not having that many African American candidates in the past and not because of percieved racial in-equalities. But this country and its views on race were not any different last year than this year. So why really is a big deal being made about it?
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@murderistic (2278)
• United States
10 Nov 08
There will always be racist people... but this is a step forward for African-Americans. However, it is apparently a step back for Arab people, who became the racist scapgoat of the election. Funny how things work out. Anyway, I still want to know why the McCain campaign referred to Obama as "Tiger Woods" and why they thought it was so freakin' funny.
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@jend80 (2071)
• United Kingdom
10 Nov 08
because they all look alike, right
• United States
11 Nov 08
Why does race matter at all. The press is making such a big deal about it. I would have thought we had moved past seeing people by race or color in this country. He is the next president. He just so happens to be African American (and white and whatever else). Not the other way around. More is being made out of his race than his policies by the news media.
• United States
10 Nov 08
I know blacks who voted for Obama because he was black. I know blacks who voted for McCain because they liked his moral values. I know whites who voted for Obama because they thought he was a liberal or represented change. I know whites who voted for McCain because of his values. It all works out. I think whether or not you feel the heaviness of racism depends on where you work, live and play.
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• United States
10 Nov 08
But how does it change it our society. We are hte same society today that we were last month or last year.
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• United States
10 Nov 08
It doesn't change our society, it is evidence of change in our society that we did not previously have. We are certainly a different society than we were during the time of slavery, and a different society than we were in the 1960s. This is a historic event - it doesn't change anything, but it does mark a change.
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• United States
10 Nov 08
I am not sure if it changes society as a whole. We might have to wait and see. If it does change it, I don't think it will be overnight. And how it changes...again, it is not obvious yet.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
10 Nov 08
Race is very important to some people and it is the governments fault. You can get a contract if you are a minority, you can get an extra shot at college if you are a minority you even have extra protection in court if you are a minority. If you look at people when you walk through the malls and shopping area you will notice more and more mixed race couples. You see more people who if you look closely you will ask yourself are they Mexican, Blacks Latinos or are the Italian, or Middle Eastern? You are finding it very hard to find Pure Races in the US. In my rather conservative family I have a biracial granddaughter, my daughter has dates a couple of different men of different races. My Nieces have dated men of different races. The relationships tend to be based on personality, education, and common interests. You are always going to have some people who are racist. In one community I lived in I was told that some families only let their children date pure children, meaning their parents came from the same country. This is why the ability to speak English is so important to immigrants because it is at that point that they see them selves as Americans.
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@jend80 (2071)
• United Kingdom
10 Nov 08
'Pure Races' sounds like something a neo-Nazi would say
• United States
11 Nov 08
It is sad that people still think that way. I am southern. I do not know if my relatives owned slaves.Does it matter now? No. I had nothing to do with. I do not see thing that way. But I do hate it when people hold up old outdated stereotypes that southerners are racist. Maybe a long time ago. But not now. Sure there are a few stupid people. But I have seen it up north too. It is not just a "southern thing".
@oldboy46 (2129)
• Australia
11 Nov 08
I am not an American so did not vote but the election campaign was well aired here in Australia - for the entire 2 years (or however long) it was going for. There are and always will be people who are racist and that is regardless of which country they live in, although the racism could be about the colour of skin, physical features, religion or anything for that matter. I do not think the US citizens changed in that regard overnight at all because those who were racist on the 4th November were the same on the day after and continue to be racist. From the television coverage we saw here in Austalia, I do believe a lot of people voted for Obama solely because of the colour of his skin OR more accurately because he identifies himself as black. Many of those who were interviewed said that they were like Obama, African-American and would be voting for the first time ever. I am not saying those votes won him the election but simply that a lot of people claimed they would, or did, vote for Obama based on his skin colour. The sad, and in my opinion racist, thing is the term African-American. Are those people who claim to be so Americans or Africans? It happens in Australia too and I find it so very wrong that people choose to put another nation before the one where they actually live and therefore supposedly have first loyalty to.
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• United States
11 Nov 08
I do not think it has to do with nationality. It is our ultra PC world we live in. It is a name that does not offend so it is used.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
10 Nov 08
I think you're absolutely right that most people didn't vote for or against Obama because of the color of his skin. I know it didn't enter into my decision at all but I still recognize how historic his election is. It would have been the same had Hillary Clinton gotten the nomination and ultimately been elected, at least I think it would have and I know it would have for me. With Sarah Palin as the GOP V.P. nominee there was also some talk about whether or not women would or should vote for her ticket because she was a woman. Again, I don't think most people voted for her and McCain or against them because she's a woman, but had they won we'd be hearing much the same kind of talk about how historic it was and how we had moved forward regarding gender. Also, I think there were some people who voted however they voted DESPITE the fact there was an African American or a woman on the ticket. Please, don't anyone take this wrong, I'm not calling anyone racist or sexist although we all know racism and sexism does exist but we've come a long way from where we were when I was a child. Lil, I know you're quite a bit younger than me and one of the things that makes me feel the most optimistic about our future is how the younger someone is the less likely they are to even hardly notice things such as race and gender when it comes to who gets elected to what position. I still remember when Kennedy was elected; I was only 8 years old but I still remember hearing my parents and others talk about how history had been made because the first Catholic had become President. There was also considerable talk when Joe Lieberman became Al Gore's running mate in 2000 because he was the first Orthodox Jew to hold such a position. It was actually made a much bigger deal back in 1984 when Geraldine Ferrara was the Democratic V.P. candidate than it was this year with Palin although it was mentioned quite often that she was the first Republican to get that spot. I guess it's all about milestones we've reached and hopefully will continue to reach as a country. This year's line-up of potential candidates actually really "looked like America" more than ever before and while I don't think these things should be made a huge deal they're still not a small deal, if that makes any sense. I think what makes Obama's election particularly historic is that he didn't just win among blacks but he carried many other demographics. It's hard to put into the right words but I guess race is a big deal because race really wasn't a big deal, if that makes any sense. Annie
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Thanks for the BR. I'm so proud of you generation and the ones coming after yours because I believe you really don't see race and other things that have been so divisive in the past. That's how I was raised and how I've always lived my life as well but I know there are many of my generation and older who were brought up in a different world, or so it would seem. I've known a lot of people in my lifetime and I can guarantee you there are plenty of great people and rotten people from every race and ethnic group. We should be judged as individuals and for what we do and don't do, not for what we look or sound like. Annie
• United States
11 Nov 08
Maybe that is why I do not understand why race is such an issue. My generation does not really see color when it comes to people. They are just people, not a person of a certain color. It does make sense that the important thing about race is it isn't a big deal, so therefore it is a big deal. I am just sick of the press covering "race" this and "race" that. Obama is the president. Everyone's president. Not just one races president.
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