Melissa Etheridge believes gay people shouldnt have to pay taxes because..
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
United States
November 10, 2008 8:12pm CST
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27599973/
she feels as if they are not being treated as full citizens because of not being able to marry so that if she isnt a full citizen then she shouldnt have to pay taxes.. what do you guys think?? i have no idea what i think on this idea lol
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@Ind3p3nd3nt (182)
• United States
11 Nov 08
I somewhat agree with Melissa. It's not really fair for the government to deny them of certain things that everyone else is privy to, yet expect them to be responsible for the same things everyone else is. Then again, noone has ever said "life is fair". And, as much as gay people like to say that they're homosexuality doesn't define who they are, she should realize that US citizens aren't being taxed based on their sexuality. I'm not being taxed because I'm straight, so why shouldn't she be taxed just because she's gay? I'm all for equality for everyone, but she may just be grasping for straws with this one.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
11 Nov 08
yeah its like something that makes you think but will never happen..
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
11 Nov 08
ha ha ha ha ha... she is so naive! As if that is going to become a reality.
The tax authorities will be coming down so hard on her, she will be seeing stars for a long time to come. Evading taxes is a serious crime. And the tax master is not going to care whether you are gay or not. When it is time to pay up, you pay up!
But it would be interesting to see if she is going to walk the talk. And what actions will be taken by both her and the authorites when she does!
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
12 Nov 08
I am sure the taxmen do.
She is so silly to say that on the media. It is like drawing a big bull's eye on herself.
Making herself the target of the taxman is not something one would usually do.
Especially if you have to pay millions in taxes each year!
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
11 Nov 08
they probably already have her on a list some where to check out now that she has said it
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@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
11 Nov 08
I think Melissa has a valid point. One, she is not entitled to full benefits with her partner because they are not legally married. If she was deathly ill, her partner, of which they are civilly married to, would not be in the room because she is 'not family' which means they do not recognize their partnership because it's not a marriage. Straight people really take things for granted and I love how most of them can't figure out why gays want to get married so much. They don't understand they are a priviledged class of people that enjoy full benefits and all 1,000 rights of marriage that are allotted by the government.
I still say many straight people feel superior and feel like they're owed marriage because they're straight. They don't have a clue what gay people are fighting for because they've never been denied basic rights that they're allowed by law every single day of their lives.
Anyway, Melissa has a point, if she's not granted rights like all the straight citizens, why should she have to pay taxes if the government obviously does NOT consider her a citizen under law, after all they did just take away a basic right that is allowed for everyone else.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
11 Nov 08
yeah but you dont mess with the government and taxes.. she will have to find a better way of making a point because she'll just get locked up fast this way.. although like you said it makes sense because of the restriction its just not gonna happen.. i really wish this whole war type thing on straight vs gay marriage crap would be settled.. we are all equal loving humans and should have the right to love whomever..
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@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
11 Nov 08
As far as her saying she shouldn't have to pay taxes, well if she lives up to it that will come back to bite her on the butt. But I do agree with the principle of her protest. We think we have come so far. Everyone mentions the 21st century like it's the ultimate in technology, science, intelligence, tolerance and open-mindedness. The farther we go into the future, we seem to keep taking 3 steps forward and 2 steps backwards.
This is mostly caused by the people who profess their ultimate goal is to unite mankind yet preach bigotry, hatred and diviseness in the name of a supposed deity based on documents written by men 2000 yrs ago. That will always be our steps backwards! People need to get their heads out of the past and see the current human condition of reality.
I've always been a believer in the saying that goes something like those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. I do believe we should remember the past and learn from it.. absolutely!.. but don't LIVE in the past. People who are living in the past aren't learning anything and repeating the same mistakes over and over that have plagued our entire history in the name of primative religion.
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@Bethany1202 (3431)
• United States
11 Nov 08
Actually, I se eher point, but any group could say the same thing, and then NO one would be paying taxes.
Vegetarians, non-smokers, etc can say this because they tend to be healthier and spend less on healthcare than meat-eaters, smokers, etc.
Anyone who is not given the same rights as others, such as homosexuals, can make this point as already stated.
I'm cutting this short now because this list can go on and on... Those who voted for McCain can say they don't think they should pay taxes because they don't feel their voice has been heard since he didn't win the election. The point is, I guess, what it all boils down to is:
If oyu don't like the way this country is run, it's greta to make your point, and we have freedom to do so, but I don't think ANY group deserves special rights to not pay taxes. MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY because we all have certain things that we feel we are wronged by.
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
11 Nov 08
She's making a statement, bethany. Gay people are tired of being denied the right that everyone else in this country has, to marry a person that they love and choose. It isn't too much to ask. By not allowing them this right, they are reduced to the status of second class citizens. Perhaps if enough of gay Americans get behind the movement, it will cause some change in an unfair system.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
11 Nov 08
exactly.. no matter what the point is anyone could claim something similar to get out of paying taxes for a bs reason.. BUT im sure her saying something about it and mentioning taxes perked up peoples ears since everyone is wondering about it.. so at least she got her idea noticed
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
11 Nov 08
im pro gay rights and marriage etc but i dont know if the taxes idea is good.. people already find ways to lie to get out of taxes and if some how they actually got out of paying taxes because they were gay then a lot of straight people would claim it to keep from paying etc.. it will never pass.. but oh the other hand it makes sense because they arent getting full rights as straight people..
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
11 Nov 08
I think that many people do not grasp the emotions of gay people, celebrities including, during this time. Many are not just upset or saddened by the bigotry that allowed this proposition to pass. They are FUMING. These men and women are soooo angry, they are displaying it and it's been a long time coming. I think this is just the begininning.
I hope they do it. I hope that the rest of gay America joins them. It would be the first time that the GLBT community has ever been on the same page. Homosexuals are 10 percent of the human population. Maybe the government doesn't want that 10 percent of their income, but it might make a great statement.
And, I don't believe that the government would put all of those celebrities and citizens in jail. If they don't move on this, or something just as strong, their plight will never be understood.
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
12 Nov 08
Here is the thing, though. This is not just Etheridge. This is a movement. According to the latest census poll, the adult population of the US is over 217 million. With 10 percent of this population, give or take a few percentage points, being homosexual, we would be talking about putting over 2 million people in prison across the US. In California alone, they would be imprisoning over 200,000 people, with already over crowded prisons. I think they would have to find another option.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
12 Nov 08
im just hoping that if they do try it that they do it well to where it succeeds.. the last thing we all need is to see them try to stand up in a new way and then laws screw them over again or in a new way.. i think that the taxes are a good attention getting idea but i dont think it will work.. there has to be SOMETHING they can do that wont be so easy to be arrested for..
@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
13 Nov 08
yeah but you have to figure a lot of people may not join the fight in fear of being screwed over in their jobs etc or arent out of the closet or just too plain lazy.. people love to agree to fight for things but then when the time comes half if that show up.. seen it happen in rallys all the time on less controversial things (or should i say controversial in other peoples eyes)
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
21 Nov 08
Well, it's her choice as well as anyone's not to pay taxes but I can just about promise that if she doesn't the IRS will come after her and they won't care about her ideas of whether she's a full citizen or not...they only look at the money owed. And since she's made this public statement you can bet that they will be watching for her tax return next year.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
22 Nov 08
yeah she seriously put an bullseye on herself with saying that to the public
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
13 Nov 08
If that's how they feel then they should get out, move somewhere that supports their lifestyle, and pay taxes there. If they are living here, working here, and benefiting from our tax dollars, then they are going to have to pay taxes. You can't just behave like a spoiled brat because you don't get your way on one issue. That's like white people saying they aren't being treated as full citizens because affirmative action programs discriminate against us.
I support gay marriage, but frankly, it's not a "right" to have the government recognize your love for one another. They just need to lobby harder and spend their time trying to change the law instead of screaming at churchgoers and pushing around old women who disagree with them.
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@pheonixstar1982 (2307)
• United States
11 Nov 08
I think she has a valid point, but i don't think its really going to help the gay marriage cause. I think the only thing that will happen if she quits paying her taxes is that she will go to jail.
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@moonlitmagikchild (22181)
• United States
11 Nov 08
yeah i know.. it will be wesley snipes all over again
@pheonixstar1982 (2307)
• United States
11 Nov 08
Ok i am lost what does wesley snipes have to do with anythings??
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@pheonixstar1982 (2307)
• United States
11 Nov 08
Ah I did not know that. Thank you.
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@avidwhit (1492)
• Mexico
11 Nov 08
She has a point. I personally dont have teh time to concern myself with this. There are enough gays and I hope they all get it figured out. Interesting link thanks for keeping us up to date on currnt issues. It will be fun to see what people think. :)
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