Another RIGHT_WING_NUT Pro-Life critic of 0bama?

Thank you for the intelligent, historically accurate response. I would add that LBJ had to go to republicans to get enough votes for his civil rights legislation. His own party could not come up with enough votes by a long shot. Instead of admitting they did not want blacks to vote or have civil rights democrats hid behind the code words of 'states rights'.

You are absolutely correct in your historical analysis of the two parties. However, you failed to mention President Johnson in your analysis, which I find interesting. I believe he was also a Democrat, wasn't he? I believe he signed the two key Civil Rights acts into law in the 1960's, didn't he? I believe that he gave a keynote speech to the Senate on Civil Rights during that time, didn't he? Yes I think LBJ, did do those things and I think Martin Luther King attended at least one of those signings. I have never been a Kennedy fan. Never really understood why he was lauded as such a hero, but that is a different issue. The real issue is that the platforms of the parties have changed somewhat over the years. I think if you go further back in history you will find that they have changed even more. Now days the Republicans stand for things that many people find repulsive, invasive, and truly problematic. This would be one of the reasons they were sent a clear message over the past 4 years. Now they must scramble to redefine themselves or at least find themselves.

Johnson was against it before he was for it. "Johnson however, due to political expediency, was forced to vote with his fellow Southern Democrats in Congress, against civil rights measures such as banning lynching, eliminating poll taxes and denying federal funding to segregated schools, measures which later would make up ground breaking legislation. As a senator, Johnson’s opposition to Truman’s civil rights programme disgusted Texas blacks." "Johnson continued to remain careful and appeased the Southern racists, such as in 1956 when he killed a civil rights bill in Congress. Again, in keeping with his Jekyll and Hyde stance he changed his opinion in 1957. Whilst assuring Texans that there was "no foundation" to rumours he was promoting a civil rights bill, and stating he was "strongly and irrevocably opposed to forced integration of the races" he orchestrated, though diluted parts which would be offensive to southerners, the 1957 Civil Rights Act. " http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Lyndon_Baines_Johnson.htm "In 1937, Johnson was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives as a liberal New Dealer allied with Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt. Johnson voted against civil rights, along with other southern congressmen, telling his liberal friends, "You can't be a statesman if you don't get elected." Johnson still spoke out against civil rights when he successfully ran for the U.S. Senate in 1948." http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisite_Generic&content_type_id=57792&display_order=1&sub_display_order=4&mini_id=1071 You are right: King was there when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Act, too. "The Senate approved the act itself nine days later and Johnson signed it on July 2, 1964, with King in attendance" "King kept marching as Johnson twisted arms in Congress. They had done it again. Johnson signed the National Voting Rights Act of 1965 on August 6. He gave the first pens to key legislators and then gave one to King."

Some day I expect late term abortions to be outlawed, but not for awhile.

I actually got into a discussion in real life with an 0bama supporter who insisted that the rights of the mother were more important then the rights of even a newborn baby. The first thing that made me against him was his plans to disarm our country leaving us defenseless, the abortion issue just reinforced my determination not to vote for him. My Mom was undecided until she heard that and then she wouldn't vote for him either. [b]~~MY OWN PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG AND BELIEVE IN YOURSELF**[/b]

When I read that he was not only for abortion but also for partial birth abortion (which in no way shape or form is anything less than murder!), I was appaled. You could not have paid me to vote for him after that!

You are right about that. I just wish more people acted like they believed this. Too many others only say it rather than live it.

Colin Powell and Condi Rice were both at different times encouraged by powerful republicans to run for President. Both declined. In Powell's case he would have defeated Bill Clinton in 1996 easily, IMHO. I think both realized what a tremendous psychological burden and emotionally traumatic event being the first black President could be. I will give 0bama credit for accepting that challenge.

You said "they don't think he was the right black man" and I agree what that statement 100%. I think it is about time we had a black skinned president even although he is not the first biracial president (the others passed for white)! I am just very much afraid this is the wrong black skinned president and there are other black not biracial people more trustworthy of the position of president.

The entire point of the post is to point out that not everyone who disagrees with President elect 0bama is some kind of racist or bigot or narrow minded or whatever. The point of the post is that reasonable intelligent people do disagree with 0bama. You will note, I hope, that I made no criticism of 0bama whatsoever. Please, consider that and re-read what I've written.

I understand what you have written. I also understand that there are people of all genders, all ethnic backgrounds, all religions; all everything that do not agree with the President Elect on some of his stands. What I do not understand is why the constant harping? Why the constant finding fault, searching for fault, seeking problems? He has not taken office. None of these thing were unknowns prior to his election, and yet and still, he was elected to the Presidency. So what, people disagree with his stand on abortion. So what? People disagree with Bush's stand on abortion as well and they aren't all White. I have not seen you posting daily on the problems with Bush and his presidency. I have not seen you posting daily on the problems with the current executive branch of the government at all. Instead, everyday you have a new take, a new issue with the President Elect.

I am not discussing any of 0bama's positions with this post. I am not being critical of 0bama with this post. I am not harping on 0bama with this post. I am being critical of the 0bama supporters who make fun of, call names, and dismiss as stupid those who disagree with 0bama. I have provided an example of a person who is the opposite of everything as to how people disagreeing with 0bama have been protrayed. In this post, I am not intending to be critical of 0bama, nor have I been so.

You understand completely why I started this thread.

Indeed, Martin Luther King's niece is carrying on the family tradition of standing up for what is right in the face of strong opposition.

Glad you liked the post. It is an idea that just popped into mind suddenly while reading what Dr. King had to say.

An excellant opinion. Thanks and please respond in my threads again.

Thank God, the Founding Fathers, and the US military for that!