Peeing in the supermart!
By ahgong
@ahgong (10064)
Singapore
November 11, 2008 11:21pm CST
I know this place that the news article is referring to.
And I am appalled at the way the maid handles the boy.
On on hand, the boy may be excusable for not know better. But the maid? Letting the boy pee in the supermarket? And using a plastic bag to contain the piss?
Ewww... !
DESPITE the fact that there were toilets were just outside the supermarket exits where the cashiers are, people are lazy to the point of letting their child pee as and when they please instead of bringing them to the toilet?
If I had encountered the incident, I would have gone up to them and gave them a good piece of my mind! Imagine, what are you teaching the child? That is is okay to pee anywhere and everywhere as long as you do it in a plastic bag?
And the maid? So lazy to get out of the supermarket to send the boy to the wee wee room?
If the child cannot control his pee, when he goes out, put him in a diaper then.
What would you do if you caught this act at your local supermarket?
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13 responses
@nanciem (1105)
• United States
12 Nov 08
I can only assume by this post that you are not a parent. I do not agree with the method taken that you have described in your post; why do you call this person a "maid" and not a "caregiver". As I stted I do not aagree with the method, but I cannot believe again that you are a parent, I do not believe this is laziness, just an inconvienence.. perhaps you would be witness to a situation such as this and would give hem "a good piece of your mind"; what is that teaching the child, that having to pee is a shameful act, and having a caregiver repremanded for an incident is punishable?
Look before you leap my friend!
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
12 Nov 08
Well, when I refer to the person as a maid, it is correct. She is a domestic helper hired by the parent.
And no, I am not a parent yet. But I do take care of children from time to time.
And if any of the child I am with tells me he/she wants to pee, I usually will take them to the toilet to do their business.
I am not saying peeing is a shameful act. But to do it publicly, yes. And I mean it, if the kid is one that cannot control his/her pee, I would put them in a diaper when we go out of the house.
Well, those are my opinions. And I respect yours as well.
Thanks for sharing.
@nanciem (1105)
• United States
12 Nov 08
You have alot to learn my friend. Number one, a child (not a KID as you refer to them) is just getting used to the feelings of having to urinate, extracate, this is all new to them. They are unsure, by "you" placing a "kid' (your word) into a diaper is telling that child how unsuccessful he/she is and makes mold for poor self-esteem. I do respect your view, although I highly disagee.
What country are you in?
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
Well, toilet training can still be done with diapers.
Huggies came up with a diaper that wears like an underwear.
Maybe it is the way we are brought up. My mum handled her kids this way. And it works. Now I handle the kids under my care the same way. And it works too.
I am just curious, you disagree with my methods. What would you have done then?
You mean mums allow their kids to pee in the supermarket, or the restaurants, or the playground... where ever the place in, whenever the kids need to go to the toilet?
Please enlighten.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
I share the same sentiments as you.
But as one of the earlier post mentioned, it is better to approach them and ask the maid whether she knows if there is a toilet nearby.
If she doesn't, direct her there.
Hmm... I just cannot imagine how good of a care these maids are when it comes to taking care of children. How can a parent allow this kind of care from their maids to their children?
I really wonder where the parents of this child is when this incident happened.
@ladysurvivor (4746)
• Malaysia
12 Nov 08
First of all I would ask the maid whether she knows or not there is a toilet outside. Sometimes there are types of people who are afraid to do almost everything and you should understand them in the first place. This fear is known as phobia. If this is the case, you should teach the maid her way out of the supermarket and then teach her the way in. Maybe she is afraid she might get lost from her employer. Some people are like that.
After you have helped the maid and she did it again, then it is time for scolding. This time there is no excuse why the maid didn't go out to the toilet because she had already known her way out. In this case, it is sure that the maid is lazy and doesn't care about public comfort and being civic minded.
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
Well, being a hot headed person, I would have told her off first.
I guess your method is much better.
But what I cannot stand is this. She actually allow it to happen in the supermarket.
It may be the supermarket today. Who know where it will be the next time?
The key thing here is to teach the kid to control a little till he gets to the nearest toilet.
Otherwise it would defeat the purpose of him getting out of the diaper in the first place if he get to pee as and when he feels like it.
You got a point raise there that is very good. I guess it takes hind sight and a little cool headedness to see the same situation in a different perspective.
I sure hope the mother of the child will teach her maid not to do that again in future!
@SydneyHazelton (4586)
• Singapore
12 Nov 08
What is the world coming to? I have seen boys peeing near the bushes at the playground, but at the supermarket? I think that is terrible. It is not like Singapore is lacking in toilet facilities. I have seen adults in other countries do that in public. But they really do not have any toilets there. And it's not in a supermarket. I don't know what I would do if I witness this. I'd probably go "eeee" very loudly to indicate that it is shameful act.
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
I would have done that too.
It is really something to pee into a bush. And already that is not a good thing. Something which I do not enourage the kids under my care to do in the first place.
But to do it in a supermarket... that is soemthing totally new!
Sigh... the things people will do these days.
@hildas (3031)
•
13 Nov 08
This maid needs retraining. Children should not be taught this. It must of been embarressing for that young boy. This would be a shock in my country too and it would hit the newspapers. She should of helped the boy to the toilet. Even if he had off peed himself, it would be better than getting a bag out and making it obvious to all in that supermarket.
I feel so sorry for that little boy.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
For a boy that age, I guess it would not have occured to him that this is an embarrassing incident.
The greater fault lies with the maid who allows it.
Loking at the picture, I am sure if you reasoned with the boy to hold a little longer while you and him go look for a nearby toilet, he would have been able to do it.
I sure hope the parents of the boy is aware of this incident. And that they have taken the necessary steps to educate the maid not to let this incident repeat again.
@TiffanyRose831 (57)
• United States
13 Nov 08
Potty training is hard. I have a little bucket in the back of my car that I have the lid and plastic bags in there and a toilet seat that i can put on top for things like this ir if one of my children have to go really bad. I can tie the plastic bag inside and throw it out or just tie it up and close the lid and dispose of it when I get home. But peeing in the middle of the store is a really nasty. But if he was just going to pee and she had the bag just incase then maybe it was the right thing to do so it didn't get all over. And also You can't not put a diaper on a child after that have learned to just not have the diaper on because it is just going backwards. maybe she shouldn't take him in the store for a few months until she gets him trained better.
Tiffany
:)
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
Potty training is never easy.
I never said it is easy in the first place.
That is why, I love the huggies underwear diaper.
Cos one can teach the child to restrain themselves. And in the event they cannot, then at least they will not make a mess of themselves.
That is why it is important to establish a routine for toilet breaks with kids whenever possible. Then once the child gets used to it, they will be able to better control their urges to go to the toilet better when it happens.
Not take a plastic bag to let the child relieve themselves there and then like what the maid is doing.
@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
13 Nov 08
i havent read this news your referring ....but i guess the maid should be blame for all this...or maybe the boy cant hold it anymore...sometimes kid dont give warning to adults if he likes to pee its always the last minute that he will tell... if ive seen one maybe i will tell the maid or whose ever is with him to train him to go to the toilet or if she doesnt where it is then i will guide her..
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
That is probably what I should have done rather than just scream at her as indicated in my first posting.
But to think she even allow the boy to pee inside the supermarket?
I mean, even if I do not know where the toilet is, I would have brought the boy out to the open and find a bush or a drain as a last resort.
But knowing you are inside a supermarket, that means you are in a building where there is public access. And if there are public access, there is usually a toilet for public use.
To not even attempt to go find a toilet, is something I cannot accept.
I sure hope the parents of the boy are aware of what their maid is doing and teach her otherwise so that this incident will not repeat itself in other public, common use places like a restaurant or a playground!
@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
12 Nov 08
lol =D The kid is still too young to know anything, and just like us, when we were still kids, we will be peeing in the open, right in front of the public eyes, peeing in the grass patch or in drains, and my mom will be telling us, nothing wrong because we are still young.. haha
So in the case of this kid, he's not wrong.. BUt the maid is wrong.. But then again, most kids now are very spoiled and they want things their way, so maids will often obliged them, so as not to create a scene there and embarass themselves or risk being scold by employers if the kid complained.. Thus, i believe the maid is left with no choice too..
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
Most children can be reasoned with.
If the child were to tell me that he/she needs to go to the loo, I will always ask them to hold it a little till we get to the nearest toilet.
Otherwise, if they pee into their pants, it will be very smelly.
They will usually oblige.
Of course, you must not take your own sweet time to get to the nearest toilet.
From the looks of the picture, the boy seems to be pretty big already. So asking him to hold a little to reach the toilet before peeing is not too much to ask for.
To allow him to do it there and then, the fault lies with the maid. She allowed him to do it. And provided the plastic bag to do it some more!
It makes me wonder, what she did with the bag of piss right after the business is done. And what else she touched along the way before she dispose of the bag and get her hands washed! Ewww... the very thought of it just irks me to no end!
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@Amberina (1541)
• United States
12 Nov 08
There is no need for the little boy to have to pee in a plastic bag if there where bathrooms nearby, the lady could have ran with him to the bathrooms, she was just being lazy. When my kids where little I was always in the bathroom with them before an after we left the store even if they said No Mommie I don't have to go I would tell them to at least try and sure enough they always had to go. I hope she plans it better next time.
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
There are toilets nearby where this store is.
I know the place as I go there to shop pretty often myself.
It is just outside the cashiers, less than half a minute walk from the cashier. And the toilets are for public use. There is even a kiddy toilet to cater to young children who could not reach the bowl or the sink due to their small stature.
That is why it is apalling to see this happening inside the supermarket itself. Where you and I would go to get our groceries. Some people are treating this place as a toilet!
The utter disrespect and inconsideration of this maid!
Not to mentioned, after the boy did his business, she probably be holding on to the bag of piss and continue with her shopping. Touching anything and everything!
Ewww...
@Barb42 (4214)
• United States
13 Nov 08
The maid needs someone to teach her how to take care of children! You take the child to the bathroom before going to the store. And, if the child needs to go again, you take him/her to the bathroom. This is laziness in the maid!! I'd probably have said something myself, had I seen something like this! My daughter had 4 children, 3 of them boys who were constantly needing to go to the bathroom even though they went just before leaving home. But she never failed to stop what she was doing and take them to the bathroom. That's just a part of training the child. What this maid has started with that little boy will forever be on his mind and he'll be expecting his Mom or Dad to let him do the same. He might be caught wetting in the floor the next time!
The picture just made me not want to ever go shopping in a grocery store anymore! I wonder who made the picture.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
I too agree with you that no matter what you are doing, if a child ask to go to the toilet, and he is very young, we should stop and bring the child first.
For if the child can indicate to you, it is a first step towards being able to control.
That is why it is important to bring them when they need to go. Otherwise, the next time, they will just pee without informing.
That is why I am so appalled by what this maid has done.
I sure hope the parents of the boy is aware that this incident happened and it is their boy that did it.
AND they took the necessary steps to educate the maid not to allow this incident to repeat itself again!
@katrhina23 (1282)
• United States
13 Nov 08
It is just a matter of discipline. The caregiver should have been responsible enough to teach the right thing to the child. It is her responsibility to take the child to the bathroom before they left or maybe when the child already needed to go and pee, she should have taken him to the bathroom.
if I saw something like this, i should be talking to caregiver that it is not correct to do that.
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@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
12 Nov 08
The child isn't at fault and no you are not wrong. It is ignorant and lazy to do such a thing! I babysat several times, and took kids out so many times. Bathroom before you leave, wash your hands, ok lets go. That's how it is. If a kid really had to go i'd go to a cashier to anyone, even if it is employees only most places will make allowances for young children!
Worst come to worst take the kid outside to do his business in the bushes. But not near food items, not near dish washing detergent not near anything INSIDE... PERIOD.
Parent, maid, caregiver, babysitter... she is the adult and as such should know that is not excusable not in any way shape or form. I wouldn't be okay with it i would go up to her and at the very least say in a shocked voice "they refused to let you take the kid to the bathroom?!?!" that is at the very least if not get a store manager to interfere. You are taking about pee here... what if the kid needed to do number 2?? In the bag as well?? come on.
If the store had no bathroom, or refused to let her take the kid... im sure the store next to her will let her take the kid to the facilities seeing a child so small. Supermarkets rarely are in secluded areas.
You said there were toilets outside ahgong... meaning that they ARE for public use... she could have picked up the kid, ran and took him to one of the toilets. What she didn't see the port-a-potties? Ehhh sorry, that's not sinking in.
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
13 Nov 08
Yeah... I was also shocked that it actually happened. And in the store as well.
In the bushes also I do not encourage. But at least those area do not interfer with the people around them.
And the worst part of this is, I would assume she is holding onto that bag of piss, and continued with her shopping. Touching raw food, cans, bottles... etc until she reached a place to dispose of the bag and wash her hands!
Ewww... !
@gauthami (137)
• New Zealand
13 Nov 08
Aww how people will do pee in the supermarket..rediculous..i havent seen that kind aa i have seen many people who is peeing in front of everyone but i dont agree with you but anyway i dont know wt i do when i caught in that situation may be i will yell ...