How hard was it for you to go from stay at home parent to working full-time?
By maddysmommy
@maddysmommy (16230)
United States
November 13, 2008 12:25pm CST
The reason why I'm asking is that my husband wants me to go back to working full-time, starting yesterday. Our finances are tight, but we are managing, and we have scaled down a few things, not enough though because my husband is reluctant to let some things go. So his solution is for me to work full-time to bring in extra income.
I am currently working part time (on call) during the holidays and my schedule varies week to week. Some weeks I work 10-12 hours, other weeks up to 25 hours. I like it this way because I can still take care of my son when he finishes school, I can volunteer and participate in school activities and afterschool as well. He loves the fact that I'm involved with him and his school.
Once I start working full-time, I feel I'm not going to have a lot of time for him, and I'm sure my 6yr old son is going to resent it too. I'm going to have to look for afterschool care either SACC which costs $276 a month or pay a trusting babysitter to take care of him. Not only that, because my husband travels a lot, which starts up again late January, it's going to be even harder as I'll be responsible for everything that happens while he's away.
For background info, I was working full-time when he was born right up to 4 1/2 years then we moved from Samoa to USA. I was able to take him with me to work up to 5-6 months and then family took care of him after that. When we arrived in the US, no family, new to the area etc., we decided it was best for our son if I stayed home, and I was fine with that, infact it was the best decision I ever made.
Now I'm at the other end of the scale and don't know what to do.
What would you do if you were in my situation? Appreciate all comments, thanks.
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7 responses
@tinkerick (1257)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I empathize with you - I'm a full-time working mom with 3 kids.
When our first was born, both my husband and I were working full-time. I took maternity leave and returned to work, placing my child in the hands of a babysitter. I was working the same job when I was pregnant with our second child. However a mild car accident put our only vehicle out of commission and I lost that job before she was born. I stayed home with her for about a year and then my husband lost his job so I went back to work (I make more money in the long run doing what I do than he does at his type of jobs). With our 3rd child, I was working full-time at a job that I felt was going nowhere so about a year after he was born I took an extended leave of absence, and never went back. I found another, better job and am at that same job today.
My husband stays home and watches the kids. It was best that way financially after our 3rd was born because babysitters for 3 kids costs more than we could afford. Someone would actually be working just to pay the babysitter. (You have to consider that fact very carefully. How much after the babysitter fee will you actually bring in. Is THAT amount worth the hassle of babysitter, leaving your child daily, and the stress of the workplace?). Personally both my husband and I are very glad that we were able to have him be the stay-at-home dad. Babysitters can be such a pain. We've gone through several in the past years. My first child had at least 3 when she was a baby. Babysitters move, raise prices, or you just find out things that you don't like. (One younger sitter had a new boyfriend move in with her. Another we discovered left the kid in the playpen for hours while she did other stuff.) We finally found one we liked and she watched our kids while we had 2. When the 3rd was on his way, even her reasonable prices were too much for us to justify both of us working. Thus, my husband stayed home.
I had stints between jobs where I was the stay-at-home mom and it was nice to be with the kids like that. But I do enjoy the workplace and prefer to work rather than stay at home all day. It allows me to get away from the home life and gives me time to myself. I must say though, the first few weeks of starting a new job, you'll find yourself looking in the backseat - expecting the kids to be there.
So, in short, you have to ask yourself lots of questions and then make a list of pros and cons.
- How much will you bring home AFTER paying a babysitter?
- Is that amount enough to cover what you need. Or is it enough to justify the touble of finding a babysitter?
- Is the babysitter reliable?
- Does the babysitter require paid vacations? or does she/he take long or many vacations where you'd have to find a substitute?
- What is the babysitter's sick child policy? Can you bring a child if he has a cold? (some babysitters won't let you, especially if they watch other children) This can cause trouble when YOU have to go in to work, but the child doesn't have a place to go.
- Will your workplace be flexible and understand the often spur of the moment needs of an employee with children? i.e. sick children, doctor's appointments, school appointments, etc.
There's alot to weigh out. Think over it carefully. If it's monetarily necessary than you have to do what you have to do. But if it turns out that what you'd bring home really isn't much more than what you do now, I wouldn't trouble yourself. There's so much more headache when you have to get a babysitter.
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I really don't know how much I would be bringing in after paying a babysitter? I won't know that until I get a full time job. With my part time holiday job we could probably cover it for this month and next, but not sure from January and beyond. My hours are not constant either and one week I could be working 8-10 hours and the next 22 hours, it all depends if there are hours available for me to work. I have requested more which they have given me, up to and around 18 hours a week, but I think I would need more. I earn $14 an hour at the moment.
I answered a few Craigslist adverts and they were asking for $10-$12 an hour for afterschool care. That's pretty high I would think for just a few hours a day. The SACC program charges $276 a month, but I have to be working 30 hours or more to qualify, and besides, there is a waiting list of 36 students already. The first one on the list has been waiting since January, so it's unlikely my son would get into the program any time soon.
I need to put everything down on paper and run some numbers and see how I go from there. I am not ready to go full time and not ready to leave my son in the hands of someone else. If I had family here then it wouldn't be an issue.
I don't get much support from my husband in terms of care for my son. He works 8-6pm and when I ask him to finish work early to pick up our son because I can't, he gets annoyed. He wants me to work a lot more hours and says he doesn't mind, but when it comes to picking up our son early, or taking him to his practices or whatever, he moans and groans. He has raked up over 100 hours of leave and doesn't like to use it if I ask him to take a day off here and there. He doesn't pick up any of the slack at home when I'm working weekends either and some days I am so exhausted after working and taking care of our son and our household. It's very upsetting at times. He is due to travel again mid January (4 weeks away, 3 weeks home) and that takes a huge toll on our family.
Anyway, I really appreciate your comments tinkerick, and I am definitely going to sit down and put some numbers together and really think about this before making any decisions. Thank you very much for your support too!
@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I understand your situation completely! It was hard to go back to work after being home with her for nine months but I knew I had to do it. My husband changed his schedule around so that we work oppsites and he could take care of our daughter during the day and me in the evenings.
I wish I could tell you it was easy but it wasn't and still isn't. Every morning I look into my daughters room and wish I could spend the day with her but I know that to give her things I have to work.
Is there any thing else you could do? Where do you work now? Could you sell Avon or Mary Kay some thing like that would bring in just a little extra and allow you to make your own hours. If you currently work with women Avon is a HUGE seller as is Mary Kay but they can be a little pushy. (PM me for more info on that) There are soooo many direct sales jobs that you could do and they are great because you set your schedule. Look into them! Just a thought!!
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
13 Nov 08
You know what I say go to work FULL time and get that sitter! Then PAY her I mean PPPPAAAAYYYY her!!! Then when your husband realizes that although you are working full time you have even LESS money maybe he will change his tune!!!
When I was first home with our daughter it wasn't a big deal but as the weeks went on my husband did less and less. I finally asked him to help. I explained to him I work 24 hours a day I realize you work 12 hours and some times more a day but I'm tired too. He still didn't help. So I called all the places around. Cooks, Nannies, Cleaning companys, Taxi services and more. I found out how much each would cost an hour. Then I billed him. It was a Friday evening he had just got home from work with his pay check. I gave him the bill I had taken 50% off the final bill for my half and handed him the rest and said "due upon receipt" it was OVER a thousand dollars!!! I had it itemized down to every thing.
15 minutes cooking lunch
15 minutes for driving to get diapers
30 minutes baby sitting play time
30 minutes for bath time
and so on
He almost fell over!!! Needless to say that was his wake up call and when my daughter was about 6 months old her really started to HELP!!!
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
14 Nov 08
You know, that is a great idea ebsharer, I might just do that. I was surfing online via craigslist and most babysitters were asking for $10-$15 per hour and when I worked it out, it was costing us more to have a babysitter than me staying home. Even SACC was cheaper than a babysitter, but the only thing is they have a waiting list of 36 students and my son is now #37.
I might just PM you about Avon too!
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I actually haven't looked nor tried Avon or Mary Kay or any other direct sales jobs. I know this sounds dumb but I wouldn't know where to start.
I'm working during the holidays at a department store and then I'm on call throughout the year. I was thinking of picking up another part time job in the evenings when my hubby is home but that will only be good until January - then he travels (4 weeks away, 3 weeks home).
I wish my husband stepped up and took on some of the responsibilities I handle at home and with our son, but he hasn't since I increased my hours and working weekends. I know it's not going to get better when I'm working full time and that bothers me too, I've even mentioned it to him. Just last weekend when I worked from 9.30-6.30pm they picked me up after work and I asked them if they had eaten and he said no. I said what about our son and he said they both hadn't eaten all day because they were too busy playing games. He just laughed - I was very bothered by it. I know its just a one off incident but still, not feeding our son or making food available for him upset me. Then when I had to work late on a school day, I asked if he could finish a little earlier to pick up our son from school. He said he couldn't because he was busy at work. I also asked him if he could take half a day leave for something or rather with our son, while I had to work (he's accrued 100 hours) and he said he didn't want to use his leave. So you see whats going to happen when I do work full-time? if I'm going to get this working part time, it's just going to get worse. He says just get a babysitter. AARGH!
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@Flight84 (3048)
• United States
13 Nov 08
As a preschool teacher, I've seen several parents going through the same situation. The cost of childcare alone is ridiculous and it ends up being better for many couples to have one parent stay at home. I understand completely about money being tight though also. My husband isn't getting to work much and it's really been hurting us. I feel like we're barely getting by most weeks. I personally think it would be better in the long run for you to stay home. Financially, like you said, afterschool care alone is an added expense. You may be able to qualify for a voucher though. It depends on your state and income and can take a long time to get. Would your part-time job have any extra work that you could do from home or something? That may help just getting a few more hours. If you know someone that could care for your son that would be great, but I know how it must feel to leave your son with someone new. Let me know if you want any price ideas for home care for your son. I used to keep kids from home and I'm actually getting ready to do that again pretty soon. I can let you know about fair prices. :)
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I have actually called the HRM office at my part time job and spoke to them regarding extra hours and they are looking into it. I have also checked with the SACC program and both parents have to be working 30 hours or more to qualify. There is a waiting list of 37 students and the first one has been on the list since January 2008.
I haven't asked around yet but if we do decide on getting a babysitter, i'm going to ask the few parents that drop their children off at the bus stop first, and see whether any of them would be interested in taking care of my son for a few hours after school. I have only known them for about 6 months so not sure on that one.
I did surf online via Craigslist and saw many posts but I'm very hesitant.
I would appreciate you input on what is fair in terms of prices to pay an afterschool babysitter for about 3-4 hours each day.
Thanks heaps Flight, I appreciate you taking time out to answer my discussion :) I really need the input!
@Flight84 (3048)
• United States
13 Nov 08
No problem! I can give you some pretty decent advice since I've been a provider myself. I can tell you here or you can PM me. I know it's a big deal with finding care you trust and being able to afford it, and unfortunately, those things don't always go hand in hand. I'll help you as best I can. :)
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@floridachick (603)
• United States
13 Nov 08
I can understand about money being tight and only one parent working, i'm also going back to work except i'm opening an in home daycare so that I can still stay at home and make money at the same time, it's something i've always wanted to do and now that we have the room i'm able too.
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
13 Nov 08
You know floridachick, I thought about doing that at home too. What do you need to do to be able to run a home daycare?
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Very impressive floridachick and I wish you all the best in this. It's very informative :)
@floridachick (603)
• United States
14 Nov 08
well i'm getting my license but you don't have to, just make sure your house is kid friendly (which it probably already is) here visit my website to see what i set up so you'll have an idea on what you need. http://www.freewebs.com/robynslittletykes/
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@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
14 Nov 08
Think about it first, maybe you don't have to go full time, just cut down some expenses. on my part i am working full time and i had been making some sacrifices and luckily my husband understands and making up for my time that i cannot give my kids. But i always try to make up for it like last time when my kid had a school program and she was in it and i was so busy at work i was not able to go but afterwards i treat her out.. It is tough but they do understand, i had to bring more income for the family
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Thanks jazel, I'm going to run some numbers and put down on paper things we can cut back on. I think we can do this with me just working part time, but some of the things I want to cut down, are things that my hubby doesn't want to let go of. I'll find other ways. Thanks again.
@jazel_juan (15746)
• Philippines
15 Nov 08
and there are still other ways of earning without going full time, it is hard i admit but in my part i have to, life is tough here in our country
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@Shar1979 (2722)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I can only imagine how difficult it would be once you start working and not be able to take care of your son that long like you used to. However, it's true about finances are tight. In my home, we try to save as much as we can. It's really hard.
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
14 Nov 08
The hard part about this is leaving my son in the hands of someone else, trusting someone to take care of him properly, while I am working, and that is what scares me. Having the extra income always helps, but my first priority is my son, and I can't bring myself to leaving him with someone else after school.
@joniterry24 (15)
• United States
13 Nov 08
Ok so I've been both a stay at home mom & Full timer! In my experience it's too difficult to work a full time job when you have a child . Really if you think about the expenses you have to pay for working is ridiculous (babysitter)If you can make it on your husbands income do the part time until school time this has worked so well for us hope I was help!
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
13 Nov 08
We were doing fine on his income until we put ourselves in a rut, so I can only blame ourselves for that one. But still, we have managed, we have cut down and I'm working on the areas he doesn't want to give up, and working part time throughout the holidays. It's my son I'm worried about, his safety, not being there for him, managing a full time job and him since my hubby is going to be travelling a lot again next year.
You know it's easy for him to say it's no problem, we can get a babysitter or put him in afterschool care, and yet he is not the one fully responsible for him. I've asked him to step up when it comes to taking care of our son and the household while I work extra hours in the weekends, and I tell ya, nothings changed. It is so frustrating and exhausting at the same time.
Thank you for your comments joniterry, appreciate them. Welcome to Mylot by the way!