There is no excuse to leave a baby in a van
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40192)
Canada
November 13, 2008 10:19pm CST
I do not drive, and I have gotten a ride to various functions and in one instance, I got a ride in one of those vans, and I sat in the front seat, passenger side. Now as I did, I thought of all the horrible stories told here on myLot about babies being left in the back seat of vans, and found dead by heat stroke. I thought there is no excuse. Most vans do not have the whole front seat, they have the driver controls between the driver and the passenger, and the driver or the passenger can turn back and see there is a baby in the car seat in the back.
Even if the baby is a quiet baby like my precious little granddaughter, anyone can see that the baby is there. Also when one goes for a job, one usually opens the back of the van and what do you know, the baby is there in the car seat. So unless the mother is as drunk as a skunk or drugged, there is no reason for the baby to be abandoned. Any comments?
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Suspense, this topic was recently fully thrashed out in MyLot. I STRONGLY URGE you to go see the posts I made there--look them up on my site. I do not condemn people who've done this, for good reason. I think you'll understand why if you read my letters.
Maggiepie
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Are you sure you read MY posts??
If so, do you understand what I was talking about? That it MIGHT be due to a medical condition the parents can't help? MAY not even realize they have??
Please tell me what you think about that! I DO have plenty of proof that it CAN HAPPEN!
Maggiepie
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I checked the topics you started. I do not see anything relating to leaving a baby in a car, and if it were a medical condition, the parent would start forgetting things like putting damp clothes in the microwave, or putting the milk in the oven to freeze, so there would be evidence of the parent's imbalance. I have heard of girls forgetting they were pregnant and leaving the infant in the washroom after giving birth, but that is because they were so afraid of their parents kicking them out, that they denied having the baby, but this is not about a fourteen year old unwed mother who just gave birth in the washroom, this is about someone whose child is now two or three. However, one can always turn their head to the side and if anyone remembered that urban legend of a psycho that sneaks in the back, they would check. The only reason I can see that is justified is if the parent just went out the car, and then suddenly someone knocked her out and dragged her away.
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@minnie_98214 (10557)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Well sadly I have to disagree with you as I left my son in the car once. It was not hot out and he was only forgottebn for about three minutes. It was my first born and well hed stayed with grandma for about a week and when we went to get our pictures from walgreens grandma thru him in the car last minute and well we just forgot she put him in the car. I felt so bad and still do. Ever since that i put my purse in the back so i have to go back there and well ive never done that since. Everyone makes mistakes not that im saying its ok just saying it can happen but there are ways to prevent it like put your purse in back with the baby or your cell phone or anything you never forget.
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@minnie_98214 (10557)
• United States
14 Nov 08
She claims she did tell us but we did not hear her. As for how i found out well he was awake after we got the pictures and well talk about a shocker to open the door and hear him crying. The worst part i there was a cop sitting in his car right next to us and well he either didnt care or didnt notice.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
14 Nov 08
At least you did not put the infant in the car, your grandmother did. If someone else had put an infant in a blanket and left him in the back seat, I am sure that anyone would have unless your grandmother told you.
How did you find out he was in the back seat?
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
14 Nov 08
From what I have read most of them say that they were so busy that they forgot about the baby. Even when people are busy, most of them don't forget to eat, now do they? I say if your life is that hectic, then don't have a baby. I would like to say that if you cannot afford to make a life with a baby on one paycheck, don't do it..because your life will be so hectic with two jobs, a baby and everything else you have to do...but some can handle all that so I can't say that. I know one woman who has a job and her husband has one. They have two jobs. Sure, I guess they can handle it but she does everything so fast without thinking that she does not really enjoy life or appreciate people.
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@dixiepeach00 (87)
• United States
15 Nov 08
This seems to happen a lot here in Georgia. People "forget" their kids and it gets so hot here that it doesn't take long for that poor babies body to overheat. There was one instance seeral years ago where a lady in Atlanta kept her 3 year old in the car while she was at work because she didn't have anyone to watch her. She would go out and check on her periodically and make sure she was ok, but she thought that was a perfectly acceptable solution because she was in a parking deck. Luckily someone saw the child and called the police before any injury was sustained. People make me sick!
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
At least she checked, but could she not have brought the child into work with her? I am sure the store owner or restaurant owner would not mind and give the kid some cans of boxes to play with.
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@kunal0099 (233)
• India
15 Nov 08
yaa ithas been realy going wrong in the recent times as people dont care about the little one they want toleave in alone and unsafe places.
they will loose their identity of human beings.
they soon got punished.
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@JohnAlec3127 (32)
• Singapore
15 Nov 08
Kunal0099 said:(ya it has been really going wrong in the recent times as people dont care about the little one they want to leave in alone and unsafe places,they will lose their indentity of human being,they soon got punished)
I agree with him
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@annjilena (5618)
• United States
14 Nov 08
i think you have to be out of your mind to forget a baby in the van what in you no what could that person be thinking.do you remember putting the baby in the van how can you forget taking the child out this is crazy.
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@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
14 Nov 08
My son is constantly on my mind and I have never forgotten him. He is my life and I could not live with myself if I ever forgot him.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I agree with you, I do not see how anyone can forget their baby or miss it. Whenever I get out of my car, I look back at the car as I walk away. I know vans are higher and they may not see a carseat but people walk away without a glance back.
I think some of these people have something wrong in their brain and honestly forget the baby. Most of them, though, have never had the maternal instinct kick in or they would have that baby on their mind and in their heart every hour of every day.
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@Sheepie (3112)
• United States
15 Nov 08
I think that it's very possible for someone to simply not see a child in the back of a van, because there is simply no good reason to actually leave a child there. I don't hear that story too much, so I would assume that most of the time a woman does remember the baby in the back. I think that if someone is as scatterbrained as I am, they would keep a post-it note on the dashboard that says: "Baby!" so they would be reminded of the little kid there.
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@Firefly99 (251)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I also agree that the babies were left there on purposeQ I have three children and there is no way I could forget about one of them!
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@jilipino08 (40)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I think there is absolutely no excuse for leaving a baby in a van. Babies are so helpless and it is up to the parent to make sure they are safe at all times. Those that are irresponsible or have their priorities somewhere else should not be a parent at all.
@Cestrix (9)
•
14 Nov 08
Yes, to be honest there is no reason what so ever to leave a child in a car ( a baby in this case ). As a parent you should instantly take on the responsibilty of being a parent... If you can't handle the resposibility then use protection and don't get yourself into the mess in the first place... Also any passer by should also instantly see that there is a lone baby in a car and should instantly report it...
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I agree with you, you are correct. But I have heard stories though that newbie moms can sometimes be so tired or even forget they have the baby with them when it is asleep. And for those I would recommend hanging something from the mirror or window as a reminder that says baby on board.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
16 Nov 08
That is a good idea. It will let the mothers know. And I hate the idea of the baby being in the back anyway.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
19 Nov 08
I was very tired last night, and I left some butter in the mixer to soften, and I turned the thermostat down, but I knew that it was there, and I knew that I did not need to get up and turn on the beaters, and then I thought about someone leaving a baby in the car seat and then at work, suddenly say, "Oops I left my precious in the van with the doors locked!" A baby is not a stick of butter and no one would blame her for saying or say "get back to sorting out the fish!" if she said "excuse me, but I left my baby in the van. I'll bring her in and keep her in the car seat here." A baby is not a stick of butter.
@dxfanatic69 (378)
• United States
14 Nov 08
You're correct in that there is no excuse for leaving a baby in a van, or any vehicle for that matter.
It's sad, but during the summer months it happened quite frequently here in Houston.
A lot of the parents, as one of the replies to this topic pointed out, admitted that they didn't usually care for the child in the morning, forgot to take the kid to daycare, or whatnot.
But, when people see a kid in a car, we folks down here in Houston react. In almost all of the cases, all the windows to the car were broken in to get the child out.
Disappointingly so, the parents, or guardians, do not face charges as they claim they simply forgot about the child, and that it was a mistake.
But it is happening often, and to animals too! But, as a said a sec ago, citizens react - even to animals.
One instance had some ditz go in for a manicure and leave her chihuahua in the car.
A good samaritan (it was a summer day, no windows were open) broke one of the windows and got the dog out...the girl came out screaming...complaining that her window was now broken.
Pathetic.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I guess she did not care too hoots about her dog. I suppose if she did not care about a tiny dog, she would not care about a baby. Too often is too often enough. I would understand an isolated incident, but don't the parents turn their head to the right? They could see the baby then.
@mipen2006 (5528)
• Australia
14 Nov 08
This is major problem, or at least it was when I last lived there. Mainly Asians going to gamblr would leave babies and very young children locked in vans and cars whils the parent/s gambled and drank.
police had to make sure the car park area was patrolled regularly, and frequently would have to break into a car to save a child,
I for one just can't understand how a parent could do that. They don't deserve children.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I always thought Asians loved their children more then us European types. At least that is the stereotype I was brought up with. It is a shock to me.
@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
14 Nov 08
People get in habits. If you are not in the habit of dropping the kid off at daycare, you can forget. There are also people that have other things going on that forget things. My former roommate had serious sleep apnea and would kind of go into a state of, well, not sleep, but not awake either. Granted she wasn't safe to drive, but she could forget what she was doing before she got on meds for her various problems.
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@betsyraeduke (2670)
• United States
14 Nov 08
It shouldn't matter if is not your normal routine or not, one should be able to see their child in the vehicle. How are you going to forget something that you can see?
"There are also people that have other things going on that forget things." That is no excuse either. I don't what "other things" a person has going on, what is more important then your child?!
I am a very absent minded and scattered brain person at times. There have also been many, many times in which I have been sleep deprived on top of that. I have forgotten many things at various times because of that, including important things like leaving my purse somewhere, but I have never forgotten my kids, not even for a second!
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@betsyraeduke (2670)
• United States
14 Nov 08
And that would still be no excuse since anyone in that bad of condition obviously shouldn't be left alone with a small child anyway...
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@kayree2002 (259)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I actually thought that they left the baby in there on purpose thinking that they would be gone just for a quick second. I didn't realize that people could actually forget that a baby is in a car with them. Just turning around to lock the door should be a clear reminder. And even if that's not the case then sometime while you're out doing what you're doing something should trigger in your mind that something is missing on you. I agree, they must be really drunk or just really don't care about that child.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I have seen people leave the baby and just go in the store and a minute later returned, but I was talking about those who left the baby in the car and it took about five to ten minutes to walk to the store, and by the time, they finished shopping or doing what they were doing, hours had passed. There is a reason why they have those parking spots with the pink buggy drawn on it.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
19 Nov 08
We have them at our Malls. They also have little shopping carts there so the little people can 'help' their mothers shop.
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@kayree2002 (259)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I'm gonna confess that I've never seen those parking spots before. I'm gonna look out for that from now on.
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