Guideline Violations: Don't Accuse If It's Not True
By pumpkinjam
@pumpkinjam (8770)
United Kingdom
November 15, 2008 2:41am CST
Upon attempting to respond to some discussions started by a friend, I find that they are deleted almost as soon as they are posted. The reason, of course, being "violation of mylot guidelines".
Sometimes this might be true but I have seen several which, as far as I can see, do not violate the guidelines at all while there are other discussions which do violate the guidelines sticking around. I wonder whether some people worry that they will be found out and so report the valid discussion so no one will notice theirs.
Anyway, to the point. If you disagree with something or you don't like the way it has been said, would you expect the post to be deleted even if it didn't actually violate the guidelines?
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13 responses
@mariposaman (2959)
• Canada
16 Nov 08
When I first joined myLot a few weeks ago I thought this place quite nice. I have since found out there is an air of hostility that permeates the place. I am used to different places where moderators keep the peace and things like flames and personal attacks are dealt with harshly but opinion can be expressed up to a point of course. It seems myLot should have some moderators who actually look at the posts that are reported and get some of the trolls into isolation.
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@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
16 Nov 08
myLot is quite a nice place but there have been some good people leave because of trolls. As I think I said to someone else, we need to put the trolls in their place and let them know that we will continue with good posts and not let them take over this good place.
@sdavis1376 (47)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I don't think any of them should really be deleted. What is the point of being able to express yourself if you are restricted. I'm not saying that I don't understand that some may be over the top and should be deleted. But my point is that if you don't like what is being said then don't read it. Or if you really disagree with the person that is posting then respond. Isn't that the whole point of posting to get everones opinion and to in some cases validate your own opinion.
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@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
16 Nov 08
I think it's ok to have things deleted if they are truly and deliberately offensive but, as you say, if you don't like it you have a choice of ignoring it or, as is the point of myLot, expressing your own opinion about it within the discussion. That way, the majority could decide on how well a discussion will do because if a discussion really is offensive then people will, usually, avoid it and, in theory, make the offensive person do something about it either by leaving or by coming up with better discussions. Some of the discussions I have seen deleted have been perfectly fine and have had (or would potentially have had) lots of good responses.
@nannacroc (4049)
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15 Nov 08
If it doesn't violate the guidelines then I'll either respond with my own point of view or ognore it. I rarely report discussions unless I am completely certain that the guidelines have been violated. Sometimes people just decide they don't like a person and report the posts just to be nasty. Maybe your friend could re-phrase the discussions and try again.
@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
15 Nov 08
I would not be surprised if he did do that but if my theory that there are real violators (is that a real word?) trying to stop people finding out about them then any re-phrased discussions would probably be deleted anyway. I'm sure that some discussions have been deleted just because someone didn't like something else which was entirely unrelated.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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15 Nov 08
Some of the most innocuous discussions and their responses have been deleted over the months that I have been here Pumpkin. I never respond anticipating anything to be deleted, but it just goes that way sometimes. However, just because I disagree with someone doesn't mean that either their discussion or my response (or vice versa) should be removed. This is a discussion forum and as such it wouldn't be up to much if every time there was a dissenting voice the discussion/response was chopped!
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@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
15 Nov 08
There are some not-so-innocuous discussions being deleted but they are still not in violation of the guidelines. I think sometimes people are offended by the way in which others express themselves and, rather than reading what is actually there, they make up what they think is being said based on the "tone" they are assuming.
@iskayz (5420)
• Philippines
15 Nov 08
Hi there!
I sometimes find it hard to understand what posts shows violation of rules except for those obvious ones where referral links are posted. And I don't think that if a posts has a different view it should be deleted too.
This is a site where we are suppose to share different views. Even if the views sometimes disagrees with the others. But posts that are rude I think are the ones likely to be deleted.
Ciao!
I sometimes find it hard to understand what posts shows violation of rules except for those obvious ones where referral links are posted. And I don't think that if a posts has a different view it should be deleted too.
This is a site where we are suppose to share different views. Even if the views sometimes disagrees with the others. But posts that are rude I think are the ones likely to be deleted.
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@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
15 Nov 08
I would have thought that posts which are rude should be the ones to be deleted but there have been a few which have been nothing other than factual. Perhaps sometimes wirded a little harshly but being blunt is not a guideline violation.
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@kristina1983 (9)
• United States
15 Nov 08
I wouldn't want any of my posts to be deleted thats for sure. Does that happen a lot here even if you follow the rules? That kind of scares me to think that it could happen just because someone doesn't like you or what you say. Maybe mylot isn't the place for me if that goes on a lot.
@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
15 Nov 08
I don't think it goes on a lot as in it happening regularly to a lot of members but there have been some members who have been "trolled" and had loads of discussions deleted apparently because someone didn't like one thing they said.
@dorypanda (1601)
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5 Dec 08
I know what you mean, I've seen that happen myself and I don't think it's fair. I know some people attract 'trolls' and that's why their discussions get wiped.
If I just didn't agree with a discussion topic, I either wouldn't say anything or do anything or I'd tell them what I thought, I wouldn't report it unless it really had violated the guidelines.
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@mvsrao (4365)
• India
15 Nov 08
Freedom of speech is fundamental right for all of us unless we violate the rules .
I have been a administrator and global moderator at half a dozen community forums
including two famous technical community forums . we always freely allow criticism
on views expressed by other members . BUT the personal attacks are not tolerated .
@pumpkinjam (8770)
• United Kingdom
15 Nov 08
I agree with that. Criticism should be allowed as long as it is not a personal attack. I think there are people who take things as personal attacks when they are not meant that way and I know there are "trolls" who follow certain users about for the sole purpose of reporting them whether their discussions are valid or not.
@mssnow (9484)
• United States
15 Nov 08
It just seems unfair. some stay because they are not found out. others get deleted because of minor infraction. I had one of mine deleted but I didnt really se any harm to it. I saw another discussion with similar topics sticking around.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Well, I rarely report a discussion unless it is an out and out violation and I'd expect the same treatment if I posted a discussion that is outright in violation. One of the big ones I see is the ones where ppl have a complaint about MyLot and they start a discussion about it. MyLot clearly says not to and yet ppl do. I don't generally report them b/c first off it would be an all day job and secondly MyLot eventually catches up to them and deletes the discussion. I've even done it a time or two, and yup they were deleted.
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@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
15 Nov 08
I certainly would not like my posts to be deleted unless I am truly offensive (which I do not think I ever will), abusive, or actively promoting criminal activities. It is for this reason I try to be careful with writing posts. What we see as harmless may be seen differently by other people.
You may have a point about the worry of some people.
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@ammie07 (322)
• India
8 Jan 09
if the discussion is not violate and according to the guidelines of mylot then why would i like it to be deleted.every human being are not the same and we don't think alike.my thoughts may vary from your but each one has got right to put down our thoughts it doesn't matter if i disagree still i would respect others thought because its there right to express there thoughts ........ have a good day
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