Crackpot liars manipulating public opinion?
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
United States
November 16, 2008 4:17am CST
Yes, it is true.
There are more and more strange things on the internet. Consider this list of 10 suppossed 0bama objectives for his first 100 days in office.
1. Immediately cease all military operations in Iraq. Order military commanders to ensure all combat military personnel are transported back to the United States within 30 days. Order military commanders to begin the process of dismantling any infrastructure constructed as part of the occupation of Iraq. U.S. civilian and military leaders must coordinate with Iraqi officials and the public on keeping in place any infrastructure that the Iraqis could use for their benefit. The dismantling of all infrastructure must be completed by July 1.
2. Immediately cease all military operations in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Order military commanders to ensure all combat military personnel are transported back to the United States within 30 days. Order military commanders to begin the process of dismantling any infrastructure constructed as part of the occupation of Afghanistan. U.S. civilian and military leaders must coordinate with Afghan officials and the public on keeping in place any infrastructure that the Afghans could use for their benefit. The dismantling of all infrastructure must be completed by July 1.
3. Order Department of Defense leadership to move forward with dismantling all U.S. military bases, posts, camps and installations currently located in other countries around the world. U.S. civilian and military leaders must coordinate with officials and the public from the host nations about keeping in place any infrastructure that the host nations could use for their benefit. The dismantling of all military infrastructure on foreign soil must be completed by Dec. 31.
4. Implement a restitution plan for the Iraqi people to compensate them for the destruction of their nation caused by the sanctions enacted in 1990 and the U.S.-led military invasion in 2003. A third-party organization will be selected to ensure every Iraqi adult receives $10,000 a year for the next 10 years to compensate them for the disruption of their lives caused by the sanctions, invasion and occupation.
5. Impose an immediate cut-off of all U.S. foreign aid to Israel. Request an emergency meeting of the United Nations to discuss an immediate response to Israel’s murderous occupation of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Authorize emergency aid to the Palestinians, including food, medicine and other necessities, as well as military arms to allow them to defend themselves from Israeli occupation and repression. Inform the Palestinians and other nations in the region that they will have the full political support of the United States to defend themselves against Israeli aggression.
6. Order an immediate end to the U.S. embargo against Cuba and work toward restoring full diplomatic and economic ties with the nation. Implement a restitution plan for the Cuban people to compensate them for the deprivation to their nation caused by the embargo.
7. Order an immediate closing of the Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp in Cuba and the immediate release of all people detained at the facility. If no other nation will allow them entry, the former detainees must be given permanent resident status in the United States and must be given financial compensation for the amount of time they were detained.
8. Grant pardons and the immediate release to all people in U.S. federal, state and local prisons and jails for crimes related to nonviolent drug offenses. Work with Congress toward enacting legislation legalizing all drugs.
9. Suspend all activities at the National Security Agency, Central Intelligence Agency and other U.S. intelligence agencies until activities have been reviewed to ensure they comport with U.S. laws and civil liberties.
10. Create a top-level agency within the Department of Defense with a mandate to defend the environment inside the United States against destructive actions by humans, including destructive actions by fellow agencies within the Department of Defense. The agency also would have the mandate to work with other nations on attempting to clean up heavily contaminated toxic waste sites that have been abandoned by the U.S. military.
You can find this list here.
http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/obamaagenda11152008/
I say the website that printed this list, libertarian - anarchist site according to what I've found, must have made this up and it is fake. Why do people do these things? It does not help.
What do you say?
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
17 Nov 08
Well I think they do this to tickle the people’s imagination and also to increase the sales of the particular medium they are using. However, for every one of them there are ten others ‘normal’ who know and understand that the list is fake for what it is.
However I was under the impression that troops pullout from Iraq and Afghanistan and review of economic aid to Pakistan is seriously on his agenda…is it not? And also just imagine pt 5 to ever come true…how would that change all global equations!!! Me thinks the Islamic world would be flummoxed into inaction and disbelief for a while at least! After all, with their favourite punching bag gone, they would be at a loss on whom to pass on the onus for all their failures back home
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Your response makes a lot of sense. Also, it is fun to think about what it would be like if these things happened, but I'm sure a huge war would result as opposed to the many little wars we have currently.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
23 Nov 08
Not really. The small wars kill far fewer people and result in much less property damage. Additionally, the intelligent people on both sides have an easier time of it behind the scenes trying to stop the small wars than they would a big one.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
18 Nov 08
Wouldn’t it be better though? Sometimes you know instead of suffering a thousand festering gangrenous wounds, its more practical to go for an all out operation
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@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I would say that this is just part of the same ole same ole. Why do people do these things? In part because they can and in part because the more they can undermine support for the new President, the more of an uphill climb he will have to make, the more time he will have to spend explaining his actions and the less time actually getting real work done.
Similarly the Clinton administration spent a great deal of time battling innuendo and BS from the past rather than doing the work of government. Not saying that there wasn't problems with them, there were. However, many of the Clinton issues were simply things that were nonesense when it comes to government and Newt and company simply wanted to divert attention.
So I would say these types of tactics are diversion tactics.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
16 Nov 08
It could be diversion tactics, but given the silliness of this diversion, I'd hate to see the main attack.
I'm trying to think of a law they have broken, but I can't think of anything other than it is rude to delibrately lie and mislead people.
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@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Don't think there are any laws they have broken. Maybe moral / ethical boundaries they cross but I think there must be a rule....All is fair in love and politics.
There was book a few years back. It was funny as all get out. It was about manipulation on the hill. Public opinion manipulation in particular. I think it was written during the Clinton years. I wish I could find the name, I likely still have it somewhere.
The point is that everyone has an ax to grind right now. If it isn't with the current administration then it is with the outcome of the election or with the President Elect. It is simple to find people that are unhappy. Those people that are unhappy, if they are creative enough, have time enough, money enough, or a any combination of these will be seeking to spread rumors, take advantage of innuendo, and generally cause havoc. It is the way the game is played.
It is America and Americans at the best and their worst.
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