Holding someone else's baby or your own
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40193)
Canada
November 17, 2008 10:26am CST
I am not talking about "you must support the head,' or "do not crush the baby" or the warnings giving to inexperienced girls or women who never had babies or whose babies had died by well meaning parents, but that warmth one gets when you hold the baby in your arms.
I am talking about women who love children, who love babies, and saw 'awe' everyhting time they see a baby. I am talking about these who do not have the flush in their face, or the warm feeling, either never had it, or had it once and lost that.
What I want to know is how they lost it? Was it because they lost a child? Was it because they had a major emotional shock? Was it because they got a s*xually transmitted disease? Was it because they got that disease that causes scarring of their fallopian tubes? Is it a natural result of menopause? Is it a protection to get women to attached to other people's babies and want to interfere before the mother picks her up if she has been crying?
I want to find out if it is natural, caused by some event either mental or physical, guilt, or is it because the woman is really a psychopath.
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16 responses
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I have never rushed in to hold a baby dont know why.
Just dont now if I am afford to hold one I will .
adn I never rushed to hold my own kids when the cried. I Would find out what was wrong first wet hungry pain what ever.
then I would hold them to feed them I just didnt wan tto spoil them where they would cry just for attention.
Never thought i would be a mom but I ended up with 5 kids thing that happens when ya get married!
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
18 Nov 08
DOnt know about that warm fuzzy feeling.
Ya take care of tehm hold when ya have too and feed them cloth them and just LOve them.
When I lost my 3 boys after their dad stole them and put them up for adoption I went thru a hell I cant discribe to any one and to watch shows of kids that got stollen just killed me to watch I would have to turn or cry.
seemed to me like I knew when they were sick to fo I would check the 2 I had if they werent I knew that one of the brothers werre.
Took 27 years to find them but I did!
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
17 Nov 08
Mmmh, interesting question... I never really had the urge or holding somebody else's baby. On the other hand I loved to hold my own in my arms all the time. But neither before or after I had my own kids did I want to hold other people's babies. Just not my thing. Never has been. Although I know better, for me it's like they are dirty and I don't want to get dirty. It's crazy I know, but that's why I don't like it. With my own it was completely different, they could have been completely filthy and I still would have held them on my arm and hugged them.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I have no idea. I often wondered about it. I suppose there are some women who loved to hold everyone else's babies as well as their own, and some who did not. I heard it is called "being a real mother' but do not think that is the right definition. Someone says that to me, being an adoptive mother, I feel offended.
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@itzzaangel (19)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I personally think it just depends on the person and what stage they are in, in life. You always hear people saying that they enjoy their grandchildren more then they enjoyed their own children. I wouldn't know that yet as I am not a grandparent yet. I am a mother of 2 boys who are 10 years apart in age, and I can honestly say that I enjoyed holding the younger one much more then I did the older boy. I know that sounds really bad as a parent, but I think it has alot to do with my own age. Not only did I enjoy the younger boy more when he was little but I took more of an interest in other peoples little ones and I still do. So in some ways I think it has do with with your own maturity.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
My older son was not the cuddly type. He is the kind of kid that you would say never was a baby and he was so independent that he was considered almost grown up, my younger son was a little boy a little longer and he turned out independent, so I never got the change of have a really cuddly child. I would have been terrible with girls and I did have that warm fussy feeling with them even though they were adopted. I figured it disappeared because of that operation I had, the doctor removes something or cuts something out, there is going to be a loss. I never stopped loving children or babies though.
@my2boys (821)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I have two children of my own. I am one of those women that you are referring to. I love children and babies. There is nothing wrong with it. I am definitley not psycho. Children are a precious gift in this life and should be treated that way.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
18 Nov 08
I love children and I really love babies and unlike some women, I can bond with any baby. The trouble is I do not get that warm fussy feeling in that my heart does not start beating like crazy, I do not feel the heat in my cheeks, or anything like that. And it bothers me.
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@germany_fan (511)
• Malaysia
17 Nov 08
personally i prefer to have baby own my own. people always said, you only appreciate somthing when it's gonw, or that thing is YOURS! the law applies to anything, including babies. maybe you think it's the same, but the feeling it's different, that's why people would pay thousands dollars just to get pregnant!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
18 Nov 08
I had a baby I gave up for adoption and even though we adopted two babies, I still have that empty feeling. I guess that is why I have a weight problem. I am trying to fill the emptiness.
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@germany_fan (511)
• Malaysia
18 Nov 08
gee.. sorry suspenful to hear that, but i believe you have learn from the past. and why not trying having another baby on your own? ask gynaecologist for their advice, i'm sure there is a way.
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@trinsmom21 (75)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I have a child of my own, a daughter who is 14 months old. But I don't feel the need to hold other people's babies. I don't think every baby I see is cute. I love my daughter, and I think she's beautiful. But I just never had the draw to other people's children. I wasn't sure I ever wanted children, and my daughter was a surprise. She's my heart, and I adore her. But even so, I don't know that I want any children besides her. I think some people just aren't born with a draw to children. Maybe it's one of mother nature's form of birth control?
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
18 Nov 08
I have always been drawn to children, and I had one infant I gave up for adoption because no one would support me when I was 17. However the father probably gave me Vd. But I never lost the love of children. I have this draw towards children and babies, but no evidence like warm fuzzies, or a hot flush in my face, or heart beating rather faster. It is rather surprising why I love children and yet my body does not show evidence of it.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I know with me, I've just never been into babies or kids. I think baby animals are cute, but not baby humans. I never liked to hear children cry, yell, or scream and I don't enjoy the sound of children playing. Maybe it's a lack of hormones, I don't know. Not everyone likes or enjoys the same thing in life.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I can walk down the street and dogs just start to wag their tails. And babies start to smile, but there must be something about me, that they feel nervous when I come near and yet I love children. I wonder if that is because I am afraid that because I do not have that warm fussy feeling that I might hurt them. I just want that warm fuzzy flushed in the face feeling.
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@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I don't like babies. I have never liked them, tho I have become better at making a big deal about other people's babies because it makes them feel good.
I never wanted a baby. I tell people that its because I saw how much work they were when my sister was born. I am told that before she was born I wanted a baby, I do know that after she was born, I didn't.
You have to say I'm consistant - 51 years later and I still don't.
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@cryw0lf (1302)
• United Kingdom
17 Nov 08
I have not had children yet, but the need to comfort an upset child is natural. I don't think it makes them a psychopath. I mean, you hear about the stories where animals take in others young that the mother has rejected. Partly it may be guilt for some women- but most its just a natural instinct. We were born to raise and care for our young.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
That is nice to know. I thought it was that some women had that warm fuzzy feeling and some women did not, like that single woman who had to take care of the orphans and was all business. But then I saw Baby Boom and I changed my mind. That is one of my favorite films.
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@chrislotz (8137)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I know exactly what feeling you mean. I love babies and when I get the opportunity to
hold one it makes me go awww so cute. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. I have some
clients, I clean houses, that have let me babysit their babies and it was the most
fun times I've had since I moved here, to Calgary.
I am thinking about voluntering at our children's hospital. I would love to help these
kids as much as I can, even if just to bring a smile to their faces. But I don't know
if when voluntering if they let a person get that close to the kids. I am having
to go look into it more so I can make a decission.
Alrighty then, talk to you later my friend,
Your friend Chris
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
I really love to be around children, I love to hold them, but my face does not flush and I do not get that tingly feeling when I hold them and I know how to hold bsbies, I held my own two adopted babies. I had that warm fuzzy feeling with every baby I held until I had that operation. I really think there is something terribly wrong with me.
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@madlees (1377)
• India
18 Nov 08
Hi,
I have not been here for sometime now. Just now I came back to the site and saw your post.
I am not the one to rush to each and every baby I see, But I love babies no matter who and what they are. Sometimes I get the feeling to carry the baby, at other times I only play, that's all.
As for your question, I do not know why it is like that, but surely Menopause cannot be the reason. Then none of the grandmothers will feel like holding the baby or feeling the warmth of the baby. There are many who like to hold only their own babies in the family and not others'. We cannot usually generalize like that.
Maybe as you say, an emotional shock or some other problem might deter them from holding babies. But women, being the mothers and grandmothers will always love to hold babies just for the warmth it provides. You feel relaxed then. I feel like that. I hope you all too.
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@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
18 Nov 08
seeing sweet little babies does make me go "awe". but I have had six and I really don't feel the need to pick up other people's babies. I do like to when I know them. I think I just like to for a second experience that sweet innocence of a small child...but only briefly and only with babies who's mother I already know. So mabye for some women it's just the opportunity to feel that again.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
18 Nov 08
I think that when you have six or any number, you do not feel the need because you are occupied, and when you become a grandmother, then the mothers will not mind and will welcome you picking up their babies because they know you are a mother. But the situation is different when you are like me, having only one or two adopted children, or having given up a baby before you met them (thereby no one knows you ever had one) or having just one child and when you met them the child is older and no longer a baby. It is that you never got used to it. I told my friends that I am not used to new borns because I gave up mine for adoption, but I really love them, but I am nervous. I have been told not to worry, but I still do.
@chameleonsdream (1230)
• United States
17 Nov 08
I'm honestly not sure what you are asking or suggesting here. Are you suggesting that there is something "wrong" with a woman who doesn't feel compelled to hold and coo at any random infant? I enjoy babies and am happy enough to hold them, no matter who the parents are. I have always been good at comforting crying babies, and will often offer to hold a crying little one so that the mom can get a bit of breathing space. I've even, on a couple of occasions (once when the mother was hospitalized and once when the mother was on medication that would have been bad for the baby) nursed another mother's baby until she could start doing it again herself. But I've never been one of those standing in line in a game of "pass the baby", and I don't feel compelled to hold every baby that I see. Does that make me less of a woman, or mean that there's something wrong with me?
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Nov 08
Actually I was talking about women who love to hold babies, want to hold babies, and yet when they hold the babies, they do not get that warm fussy feeling. I was wondering whether it was because something went wrong inside of them. Or whether it was natural for some women to not have that warm fussy feeling and yet love to hold children.
I mean there are a some ladies who the mother lets hold the baby and they are not related, and I was wondering whether it is because they have the warm fussy feeling and the babies feel comfortable. I am not talking about women lining up, I am talking about well there are three women talking to the mothers, and although they all love the babies, mom lets just two of the women or one of the woman hold the baby while she gets her purse packed and that women is not a relative.
@zhangfzoe (432)
• China
18 Nov 08
I like child. If it is possible, I want to have a child of mine. Child makes me feel I am being relied on. And I want to give him/her my best love.
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@WATARIKENJI (1534)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
Being a father, I think it is a combination of what you had mentioned. There are people who are really fond of babies and feel some sort of attachment whenever they see one.
@manunulat (604)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
I worked in nurseries before and honestly, I don't treat the babies with much excitement like some of my pals but I do take care of them. I carry them when they cry, I gave the best I can but certainly I have this thing of not getting too attached with them. I can be emotional too but well, my pals never questioned my blankness. There are mothers who experience "inattachment" after they gave birth but of course that was normal. Biologically, the woman's body has altered hormones when they get pregnant and when this level of hormone falls after giving birth it gives rise to a form of psychosis in which the woman hallucinates and perceives her baby differently. So, we hear the news of some mothers drowning their own babies and stuff and this should readily be identified by the obstetrician. Initially she gives doses of such hormone so that the mother will not go through post-partum psychoses. Other than that, we can not dismiss the fact that a woman may have experienced emotional triggers in which case adding up the stress that pregnancy might have caused. We can not point out exactly what are the reasons for these triggers because human behaviour is also complex. Personally as a care giver, I would stay "blank" and be more focused on the care of the baby than indulging what I can receive as "personal joy" from my work because it is the mother or the father who should establish the bond to the baby. That is the most important bond... As to this situation where a mother post risk for psychosis, the immediate family members should be supportive/support system in taking care of the new baby to avoid such untoward incidence until the mother establishes stable hormones.
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