Socialism is charity for the lazy and the heartless.

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
November 17, 2008 11:40am CST
There are basically two kinds of people when it comes to charity, those who give and those who don't. Those of us who give do so for all sorts of reason and in many ways. Some give money or necessities, others give of their time and/or skills and talents. We decide what we'll give, when and to whom. There are also two kinds of people who don't give charitable contributions. Those who choose not to give of their money, time or skills and those who don't give, but insist that everyone else should. These are the sort that socialism, communism and any other economic system that is based on someone else deciding what someone else should be allowed to own and/or keep. Socialism is for the lazy because, under socialism it's ok not to do anything because they are going to enjoy the same "equality" as those who work. Everyone owns the fruits of labor equally, so the lazy will be rewarded equally with the hard working. Socialism is for the heartless because it takes away the need or desire to help others who are less fortunate. This is especially true in societies that aren't socialist, but have people pushing for it. We see examples of this amongst the politicians and celebrities who get on their soapbox pointing their stinky little fingers at everyone else for "not giving enough", but don't seem to give much themselves. These people seem to have a fascination with leaders like Castro, Ho Chi Mihn, Che Quevera, Hugo Chavez and in some cases even Stalin and Lenin. They hold these leader up as heroes of the people because they had the guts to "spread the wealth"... but in the end more wealth seems to be spread their way and less seems to make it to anyone else. But that doesn't seem to matter to the socialist activist. They do emulate their heroes though because, while they seem to have millions at their disposal, 1, 2, or maybe a whopping 5% is all they seem to find it in their hearts to part with. To them the rest of us just refuse to give enough though, so the government should take more and more to give to the poor and down trodden. To them the role of government is to be the "great equalizer" between the "haves" and "have nots". These heartless souls are really nothing but bigots. Their prejudices are no different than the racists and the sexists who waste their lives lumping everyone in their target group together. These bigots paint all "the rich" (except themselves and their friends) as evil theives who live to cause pain and suffering to the poor. They paint the poor as mindless and helpless victims who are completely incapable of doing anything for themselves. Many of these people are so heartless that they don't even part with their riches to help their own relatives, but they are quick to send those relatives to government programs, so the taxpayers can take care of them. For me, I say we should all have the right to decide what is necessity and what is excess for ourselves. We have the right to decide who we want to help, when, and why. It's not the role of government or pissants in high places to decide that for us.
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• United States
18 Nov 08
You forgot a few more leaders that led their country into Socialism: Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush. The two are hero's to the industries that they refused to regulate, and spent them hundreds of billions of dollars when their destroyed their companies. These companies believe in spreading the taxpayer wealth to their industry, so THEY can continue to inflate their personal wealth, with total disreguard to the American people. Don't you remember when the IRS cancelled the tax deduction for charitable donations, all of these people that you praise for donating money, stopped. Why? Because they didn't get anything for their donation, so they stop donating.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
18 Nov 08
Once again, you and reality are strangers. I don't know where you get the idea that the IRS cancelled tax deductions for charitable donations, I have been eligible for tax deductions for almost every charity I've donated to. Course, I've never made enough to worry about itemizing, so I've never actually used the deductions, but I have been eligible. Also, the people of the US gave $303 billion in 2007 which is an increase from 2006, so I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that we stopped donating to charity. I might add that none of these numbers reflect the total man hours given. http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/content.view/cpid/42
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• United States
19 Nov 08
Para, The IRS did cancel the tax deduction for Charitable donations in the mid 90's, that hurt many non-profit organizations. I did enjoy your link though, it showed that the majority of charitable donations come from Blue States, the lowest donation amounts came from red states. I do find that interesting.
• United States
18 Nov 08
That was their choice to stop donating. While it is sad and really is a shame...the point remains that it IS their money to due with how they please. Charity is a choice not a requirement. Nor should it be requirement.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Yeah, that's pretty much the way it is. I like to give to charity and volunteer because it's MY choice. I don't subscribe to Obama's plan of forced volunteering for high school students, nor do I want socialism that takes my money, and decides who is more deserving of me after politicians get their cut for making that decision. Here are some numbers for you on charitable giving. McCain's charitable giving: 27.2% Palin's charitable giving: 2.5% Gore's charitable giving: 1% Obama's charitable giving: 1% And the master of charitable giving. The man who said it was patriotic to pay higher taxes. Mr. Joe Biden at a whopping 0.2% (notice the decimal point) http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainfinancial/ http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSN0333309720081007 http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTZiY2EyNjllZmI3MjBiODdiM2ViNjc5ZmYxNjI1Zjg=#more http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-12-biden-financial_N.htm
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• United States
21 Nov 08
I noticed that you failed to mention that McCain can afford to donate all that money because his sugar mama is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. By the way, does John McCain write all of that off his taxes? I am sure he does, if he truely cared about these charities then why does he use them as tax deductions? By the way, Joe Biden was 1000% correct, the last time I checked the our men and women fighting Bush's war in Iraq was paid for with tax payer dollars. So, the next time you are complaining about paying your taxes, why don't you write a military family and explain to them why you don't want to pay for their reenforced armor on their humvies, or funding their medical care when they are finish their service. I challenge everyone that supports this war to donate their tax return to a veterans charity. But, I have yet to hear of one person doing this.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Nov 08
Well first off, his wife is not worth "hundreds" of millions of dollars. She is worth an estimated $100 million. Regardless, their finances are kept separate. If John McCain didn't write it off on his taxes then there would be no evidence of his donations so it's actually quite important that he does. As you know, or should know, it's not as though writing it off means he gets all that money back on his tax returns. Biden and Obama both write off their piddly contributions and it's not like they need the money. I'm not against paying taxes debater. I'm against paying higher taxes that fund programs I don't believe in. I want the military to get good equipment and protection. I don't want my tax dollars being used to feed fat lazy people who feel entitled to government handouts because they were too lazy and too stupid to create a decent life for themselves and their kids. Paying higher taxes isn't patriotic because it's FORCED giving. Why isn't Biden giving his entire tax returns back to the government if he thinks it's so patriotic? And just so you know, I actually have donated money and clothing to the South Florida Vets this year. I give quite a bit more of my income to charity than Obama or Biden and in fact, I give more total, not just percentage-wise, than Biden and I always have even when I was earning under 25K a year.
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• United States
21 Nov 08
I agree with you almost 100%! The only exception I take at all is to the fat and lazy? I think that you are right that many have gotten an entitlement mentality. But I am not sure it is about being lazy. I recieved public assistance for more years than I care to think about and I always worked. Over the past few years we have moved away from food stamps and such through learning some wealth principles and taking a hard look at our life. I can not explain adequately the difference I feel in being free from assistance. It is awesome!! And before anyone thinks we hit the lottery our income is under $30,000 annually. But I look at that income differently and I appreciate that I am better off making it on my own. People on government assistance can not see past their fear. Fear of going hungry or being completely broke, some of course will just take all they can get regardless. If there were no public assistance programs people would figure out how to live. Now that I am on the other side I think our states plan to reduce benefit time was a good one.
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
18 Nov 08
Yep! You said it!
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Nov 08
Thanks!
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• United States
18 Nov 08
I know you can't see me right now but I am giving you a standing ovation. You hit the nail on the head.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
24 Nov 08
and you can't see me take my bows. ;~D
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• United States
8 Jan 09
"we should rob from the rich and give to the poor. Like Robin Hood." I have to say I never tire of saying the following: Go back and read the story of Robin Hood. People with this attitude never understand the story. Robin of Locksley wasn't robbing the rich nobles he was one. He was robbing the Tax collectors and church hierarchy of the money they took to enrich themselves and giving that money back the the starving peasants the money was taken from. Robin Hood understood that the person best able to help the individual was the individual and that excessive taxation was evil and harmful. In short, the closest analog to Robin Hood would not be Castro, Lenin, Marx, Mao or even Roosevelt. It would be Ronald Reagan, George Bush, JFK... these were men that took power from the IRS and tax dollars from the congress to put the money back in the hands of citizens so they could make the country prosper.