Look out Cnadian students, here come the "conversation cops"
By xfahctor
@xfahctor (14118)
Lancaster, New Hampshire
November 19, 2008 10:52am CST
I'm not sure how to even begin commenting on this or what to make of it. Natural progess of a progressive society? Orwellian indoctrination? None of my business because it isn't my country? Oh well you decide, heres the article. Reported in The National:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081119.wlanguage19/BNStory/National/?page=rss&id=RTGAM.20081119.wlanguage19
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Canada is building a reputation for being politically correct to the point of tyranny. I've already commented on one incident where a woman lost her son because the Canadian government didn't like that she was letting him go to school with a swastika drawn on him. What's scary is that people are okay with this.
It's funny that they claim to foster diversity, when in fact they're doing the opposite. If the school won't let you be yourself, or speak as you want to, then how are they allowing their students to be diverse? It would be one thing if the conversations were threatening in nature, but they aren't. I use 'retard' and 'gay' in my everyday vocabulary, and I'm anti-discrimination towards any minority.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
19 Nov 08
I spent a number of years traveling to Ontario, I had a girl I was with there, in the Brockville and Athens area, a relatively rural part. It was amazing the difference, the total politicly correct VACUME compaired to just an hour down the 401 to Kingston where this is happening.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Well that was scarey. Leave to you to always find way to scare the heck out of me.
This is censorship of speech and thought ( or rather it is freedom to think it but don't you dare express it). Who is to say what is offensive? I am sure I could find someone who was offended by just about anything. Plus the other students that are going to police them...well you know how kids can be. I do not like that person so I am going to report them.
It is scarey to have that happen in Canada (wonder what BCMike will make of this) but I can see something like this going on here before very long.
Obama's civil army could basically be the same way. Speak out and get in trouble.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
19 Nov 08
"but I can see something like this going on here before very long. Obama's civil army could basically be the same way. Speak out and get in trouble."
which was why I pointed it out. Granted this was a provincial university doing it it, but still, a little unsettling anyway.
Correction by the way, it was not "The national that reported this as i eroniously atributed it to..... A pox on me for an oaf
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Like many things, it sounds good in theory (sort of) but I sure can see some potential for abuse!
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
19 Nov 08
Crap, that's not a step in the right direction.
The point to social progress is for people to take initiative and do it themselves. It shouldn't be something that's "inforced" lest it become a means of persecuting people with good intentions (which is still a bad thing).
*Sighs* I'm increasingly worried for Canada.
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@CherylsPearls (1269)
• United States
19 Nov 08
That is so wrong. I am a liberal (and you can chuck me in the bucket with Obama and all the other names he is frequently called); however, I think to even try such a stupid thing is wrong.
Putting myself there (in that environment), I would probably start saying everything I could think of that was politically incorrect. I'm just that way. I hate the thought of someone listening to or watching what I do or say.
I happen not to say words like "retard," etc., but that is my own personal choice. If someone tried to force me not to say it, I would probably say it every chance I got. Someone might get punched in the nose, as well.
This is not a solution. Some people are going to always be politically incorrect and even ignorant; that is no reason for us to "spy" on each other, though. I do agree that parents need to teach their children manners and the appropriate way to converse, but this is not an acceptable way to do it.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
19 Nov 08
In canada,the laws governing speech are very different. There is a lot more you cannot say. Although this is at a university and not something doen by the Canadian or Ontarian government, it would still be theoreticly allowable if they did in fact do this on a national or provincial scale, as they don't have the preotections we have in place. I agrea somethings are offensive, but if we made ilegal everything that offended everyone, we'd wind up in a pretty sterilized society.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
19 Nov 08
No, not the natural progress of a progressive society...the pitiful progression of an oppressive one. I saw your comment indicating that this could happen here, x, and I disagree...regardless of who our president is or what programs he puts in place. It's my belief that we feel too strongly about our freedom of speech to put up with something like this. I guess time will tell but thanks for giving us something to be on the lookout for here.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
19 Nov 08
I guess I should modify my statement, it could happen here IF we don't watch our backs. We have protections in place but we as a society don't seem to be very vigilant in minding the government and those protections......ie; The Fairness Doctrine
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