What are your thoughts on the new system Helium has.

@brian_s (570)
United States
November 25, 2008 1:50am CST
I was surprised to see that they changed the way they are paying. I forget the exact details, but for those of you who didn't know that they have changes, it may be a good idea to go to the site and check it out. First of all the good... They are now paying upfront for articles (50 cents I think) in most subjects. I am, however, unsure of the requirements you must meet before they will do that. Also, they have now made it that you will not receive any royalties unless you have one rating star which means you need to rate at least 40 articles event 90 day period, and they have to be "satisfactory" ratings, whatever that means. I find it annoying that they are going to stop paying people who don't rate. They are making money off the content we produce, whether or not we rate. So what do you all think? Has anyone looked into this more than I have? Does anyone like the new changes?
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@dvmurphy (326)
• United States
26 Nov 08
I personally don't care for the new system and have made money on helium for the past two years but I like associated content better. Helium doesn't have a lot of articles that really interest me and some of the writers there have real nasty reactions if you beat them in a contest. I have been published in the marketplace and have won a contest and I got singled out by some writers at one time. It was not pleasant. They don't like it when a woman is winning in what they deem a man's area of knownledge, motorcycles mainly. Two of my articles were deleted from a contest because I was the top dog and the contestantw all men grumbled. I was given my work back but it cost me my place in the contest.
@brian_s (570)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I'm sorry to hear about that. I haven't seen anything that bad yet, and I hope I don't. It's too bad that you had to deal with people acting in that way. I will probably spend a lot more time with Associated Content in the future. It seems to be much more popular for one. They pay more for the up front fee, and you don't need to stay active to receive payment.
@paid2write (5201)
25 Nov 08
Upfront Payments are based on the number of new articles you submit in a month and the number of stars you have One Writing Star pays $0.50 per article Two Writing Stars pays $1.00 per article Three Writing Stars pays $1.50 per article published You will earn even more with four or five stars! You now need one rating star to get daily revenue share. This is much more fair than the old system. Previously some writers expected other people to rate their articles, so they could earn money from their top rated ones, without doing any rating themselves. It only takes a few rates a day to maintian one star, and now Helium offers a bonus of $3 per month for those who maintain five rating stars. I think it's great that Helium are rewarding more active members in this way. Anyone who does not want to rate can repost their Helium articles onto another site, or onto their own blog, but they will soon discover that to make money from other sites requires them to spend time networking and commenting on other people's articles. It's much easier just to rate a few at Helium every day.
@brian_s (570)
• United States
25 Nov 08
OK, I didn't realize that the program was tiered like that. That is pretty good that you can get more money upfront as your rating starts go up. That also gives an incentive to create more quantity AND quality, rather than one of the other. And that is a good thing for the writer and for Helium in general. More quality content equals more page views and money for both parties. Thank you for your explanation about the rating system, but I am still not a huge fan of that part. I mean, I at least wish it was just a bit easier to maintain one star. I have rated about 44 articles in the past 90 days (I know, that's not too much). But two days ago my rating percentage was 80. Today it is 76. I didn't rate anything in the past few days, so I assume that just has to do with other people's ratings. So if I remember correctly if I drop below 75, I won't be getting paid for the page impressions. I don;t like that, since I took my time to read the articles, and I gave my honest opinion. I guess it just so happens that my opinion is different than a lot of people. I guess I would be OK with the changes if they eased up on the qualifications for the rating star.
• United States
27 Feb 09
The percentages for the rating stars have been taking huge hits from many people on the Helium community if you go to the forums you can read what has been going on with other people. I have been trying to maintain five stars. I take my time to rate properly but my score continuously drops. It would be my guess that Helium will take a look at this issue because they are pretty good at listening the the needs of the community. After all, if it weren't for the writers there would be no Helium. They have made a great deal of changes since I became a member and I love them all except the way that rates are judged as good or bad. That is to say, our rates are compared to the majority as to whether it is a good or bad rate. This is causing major issue for many die hard Helium writers. If you want to know more about it go to the forums in Helium and check it out.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
25 Nov 08
I have heard of Helium but do not know much about it at all. I do not think it is fair, on what they are doing though.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
4 Mar 09
I havent been active in helium for months.Maybe i will go and check out the site again.The last time I logged in there, I got bored because the site seems to be slow in terms of pace and activities. I will check on it later.
• United States
28 Nov 08
I'll admit that I don't go over to Helium as much as I should. I have a freelance job that I bid on and won at GetAFreelancer.com and I also write for Associated Content. I choose Associated Content over Helium any day of the week and here's why: Associated Contents usually takes 3 days to 10 days before they get back to you with an upfront offer on an article. Sure, I have been upset sometimes at the offers. This is because I may spend 15 minutes writing an article and get $4.50 for it plus ppv's but when I really research or take more time on one, I seem to get less. I am a newbie there and haven't totally figured the system out but when I do, I feel that I will do better. I have already reached a clout 5 in about 3 months but that only writing 40 articles. Helium is depressing to me. I can go on there one day and I have like 85% - roughly 3 stars (because of how many articles I have written for them) and then two days later I go back and boom! I'm down to 70%. Up and down, up and down. I like that others get to rate your articles, but it can make you not want to write sometimes. AC also lets you rate and I've gotten 4.0 or above on all of my articles, which makes me feel a lot better about myself. AC also pays you for each and every article as soon as you accept their offer. Once I accept their offer it's less than 24 hours before the money appears in Paypal. Helium, on the other hand, pays once a month and it takes so long to get to $25.00 (the payout limit) that I get frustrated. When the sent me an email stating that they were going to be making the upfront payments I was really excited. 50 cents to 2.50 depending on your stars. That was okay with me. I would try to make sure I had the stars and it gave me a reason (other than the pride thing which was taking a bashing by the up and down thing) to write articles for them. However, when I started looking, I saw a catch. A big one, in my opinion. AC will pay upfront for any well written topic except for poetry, memoirs or opinions, and fiction pieces. So I expected the same from Helium. That was fine. However, as I read more and more, they don't pay for half of the topics on their own list! And when I wrote a medical article (which was one of the things they did pay for), when it showed up on my helium list of articles it was put under "medical-other". They tagged the other on there as a reason not to have to pay me for the article since other is one of the categories they don't pay for. I also like to write in the debates. Guess what? You don't get paid for those articles either! I thought this was something Helium was doing so that it could compete with AC but they don't even come close to competing with them. Too many ways to get out of paying you for the article whether it's 50 cents or not. I can write the same article over at AC and get $5.00 or $6.00 for it. Another thing I like about AC over Helium is the fact that when something like this happens and you have a question, you can easily get a response from one of the higher ups. Not at helium. I wrote and requested why my article was categorized as that when it clearly showed Medical only when I was writing it and have never heard anything from them. They clearly don't have an answer. However, if AC gives me a low - or what I consider to be low - offer on any of my articles, they write out exactly what the reasons are for the low offer. This has helped me to know what I am doing wrong. If I have any questions about payment, they answer me within 24 to 48 hours. I am staying with Helium long enough to get up to $25.00 so I can get my payout and if they don't shape up, I will not stay there.
• United States
27 Feb 09
I think that you are misunderstanding the "Other" as ineligible. The ineligible "Other" is the actual channel "Other". The "other" subchannels in eligible channels will be paid. In other words, your medical article that is under "other" in that channel will be paid. There are a huge amount of articles that you can write to under Helium that pay. I have written over 50 articles in the last two days to Helium from different channels all of which pay the upfront payment. You stated that Associated Content will pay for any well written article. I find that Associated Content makes it much harder to gain the upfront payment. The reasons given are, they aren't searchable. That is what it said with one of my articles that was turned down just today. So what exactly does that mean, Heroin addiction isn't searchable. Then I recieved payment on another one that stated it wasn't unique enough to get a higher upfront payment. At least I did get paid for that one. But to me, it appears that Associated Content is the one that attempts to make excuses as to none payment. I guess it all comes down to whether someone likes being competitive or not. I enjoy the competition on Helium. It keeps me on my toes. Associated Content is alright but my heart is with Helium.
• United States
13 Jan 09
Hi there, I've been on Helium since september of 2008. I haven't reached a payout yet but I'm confident I will. I just need to find the time to write more. I've gotten encouraging letters and seen my articles on different search engines. I'm just proud of that fact alone. As far as the rating system. C'mon guys...give a little, get a little. We are all here for the same reasons. Take 10 mins a day and rate maybe 5-6 articles. You'll keep at least one star like this. The articles are short. People are rating your work so it's only fair right? At least they've created an incentive plan now with more payment opportunities. I do have one question. For instance, do you have to "maintain" the stars for the entire month or just have them ready by due date? Know what I mean? Another groovy thing they've done, is a dollar for each empty title you write in qualified channels. I think that's cool! Best of luck to you. Hope this helps.
@brian_s (570)
• United States
13 Jan 09
You just have to have the 40 ratings within a 90 day period, and they can be spread out or done all in one day. I have less of a problem with the need to rate (although that does bother me), than I do with how they rate my ratings.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
7 Dec 08
The rating thing sucks. It's like being told you have to read all the books of a publishing company before they will publish your book. Unfair and underhanded in my opinion.
• United States
26 Nov 08
i haven't heard anything about this. so i can't tell you what think sorry i couldn't help.
• United States
13 Jan 09
Thanks brian! I've wondered about that for awhile now. Are you an active member on Helium? I'd like to read some of your articles just out of curiousity. I don't have but 15 written since Sep...but like I said...I work all the time. What I do turn in ranks pretty good, except some of the legal articles.