What would you do if a friend was acting totally insane?

@mentalward (14690)
United States
November 26, 2008 12:24am CST
I have a friend who is acting way out of character. I believe it's menopause but she can't take hormone replacement therapy because of some serious health issues. She totally off the wall! She's saying things like she wants to kill her husband... I mean, she's going into specifics! She's talking about poisoning him! She says she's going to leave her family. She just called me tonight at midnight! She knows that I've been sick with a cold/flu plus an infection. She also knows about my fibromyalgia and lupus which prevent me from getting enough sleep as it is, but now she's calling me at midnight, waking me up! (I didn't answer the phone and she didn't leave a message.) Nothing I can say will calm her down. She's not rational at all. I've suggested therapy for herself, for her and her husband and also family counseling. They have two grown sons living with them. She loves one son, hates the other. But, she told me she's afraid she may hurt the son she loves! She won't go to therapy. Each time I say that, she tells me that it's too late for that and she's going to kill her husband. Now, I also know the police. If I call them and report what she's told me, they'll say they can't do anything until she actually commits a crime! She's been a very good friend for 30 years now so I really don't want to turn my back on her. Her husband is a true SAINT for putting up with her for so long! (She's always had a temper.) I don't want to see her hurt him in any way... the man truly loves her! We live 110 miles apart so it's not like I can just go over there any time I feel like it. If you had a friend like this, how would you handle it? I feel like bowing out of the situation entirely but I'm not sure if this is the right way to deal with it. Help!
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
26 Nov 08
Menopause is a phase right? She will grow out of it right? Call her over the phone during the day to talk to her. If possible, gather a bunch of old friends who are also experiencing menopause to chat with each other. When a bunch of people who has experienced the same thing, or are experiencing the same thing, they will be able to sympathise with each other. And in the process, also let your friend know that she is not alone in the situation. There are others who are feeling the blues like she does. If this still doesn't help, introduce her to mylot. Keep her busy chatting with people so that she will not be brooding over her recent feelings of hostility. Once she rides out the difficult phase, then it would be much easier there after.
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
26 Nov 08
T-t-t-ten Years?!? Wow... I didn't know that. Sigh... then it is going to be one tough task to talk your friend around. Other than constantly repeating to her and making her see reason, there is no other way. If I were in your shoes, I would let the husband know of her thought and tendancy so that he can keep a lookout for anything out of the norm. It would be so dangerous for him should she get into one of her irrational moods and decide to really carryout her threats. Regrets afterward would be too late! If the husband and her sons can convince her to get some medical counselling or help, the would be best. Hope she can get out of it soon.
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
26 Nov 08
I've tried that, ahgong, unsuccessfully. Menopause can go on for up to 10 years! Unfortunately, everyone I know who has gone through it or is going through it now have been able to take hormone replacement therapy and didn't go through the horrible mood swings that my friend is going through. I have tried to get it through her head that it's menopause causing her to think and act the way she's been, but she constantly disagrees. I've tried to remind her that she's never behaved this way before but she doesn't care about that; she says she has good reason to act this way. She believes that everything her husband does with good intentions, just to make her feel better, has some kind of evil, underlying motive. (She's paranoid.) She told me that she has already punched him in the face with her fist! I can't imagine what he would do to cause that. I've known him almost as long as I've known her. He's been nothing but good to her. I also tried to get her to join myLot... nope. She claims she doesn't have the time. She has always hidden her pain with anger. I've always been able to calm her down in the past but now she's gone beyond reasoning with. She's actually become violent (which she never was before) and I'm very worried about what she might do. I'm going to call her husband where he works today and see if he'll talk with me about this. He probably will because he usually tells her to call me when she gets in one of her moods since he knows that I can usually calm her down and make her see reason. I think he needs to be made aware of what she has told me. SOMETHING needs to be done before she kills someone! I'm truly afraid that she might! Even if she needs to be committed to a mental institution for awhile, so be it! That's better than being committed to prison for the rest of her life, not to mention the fact that she could ruin the lives of many people, not just the person she kills. I wish she'd listen to reason, but she won't. I'm going to take the advice of my second response here. That seems the most sensible to me in this situation. Thanks for your concern and advice, ahgong!
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@Grandmaof2 (7579)
• Canada
26 Nov 08
Well If say if her husband was a jerk and beating her or something I'd just bud out but holly molly this is a very serious situation. Because the husband is a good guy I would call him when I knew I could have a private conversation and flat out ask him what is happening. There is way too much of this stuff happening and people not taking it serious. I can see you're a caring person or this post would not be here. If for goodness knows what the reason is and she does poison her hubby think about how you'd feel. If he's a good man he doesn't have to tell her you called and who knows maybe he doesn't realize this lady needs help. I think you should call someone ask for profession help for her. Menopause can for some woman be very deadly. Literally. You may be saving her life or someone elses. This is just my advice and what I'd do.
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
26 Nov 08
Thanks! You made me realize that I can call her husband where he works and talk with him. I don't have his number but I know where he works so I'm sure I can get in touch with him. I hadn't thought of trying to talk to HIM because she always answers the phone at home. Yes, he has been a wonderful husband to her. He worked two jobs at one time, with a few other side jobs when he got the opportunity. He's always done what was needed for his family. He bought a shell of a house and turned it into a home for them. I've never seen a man work harder for his wife and children... without complaining! I'm going to call him tomorrow. Thanks so much for your advice! That's what I asked for and I'm very thankful that you took the time to share your opinion. I really am scared for that whole family!
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
26 Nov 08
I'll let you know what her hubby says after I've spoken with him. This is just too horrible for all involved! Right before Thanksgiving, too. She really DOES have a lot to be thankful for... I wish she would see that.
@34momma (13882)
• United States
26 Nov 08
you have to say something to either her husband or son, or the police. this is serious and you can not just sit by and wait for something to happen. it may not happen, however how would you feel if it did and you didn't do anything. please don't sit on this information, say something please
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
26 Nov 08
Don't worry, I'm doing something. That's why I posted this. I just didn't know WHAT to do! I tried contacting her husband this morning but he wasn't at work. I'm going to call a crisis hotline number myself and ask them what I should do. I know to take this seriously because, even though she's always had a temper, she's never been anywhere near this bad before! She has never even threatened to HIT her husband before! I also know what menopause can do to some women. As soon as I calm down from my own morning with the doctor, I'm calling the crisis hotline. They should be able to either guide me in what to do next, or be able to take over from here. Thanks for your advice.
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@34momma (13882)
• United States
1 Dec 08
well good for you. I really hope everything works out for you and your friend and her family. you really are really a great friend to go out on a limb like this to make sure she, and her family are safe and get the help they will need. please keep me posted
@underdogtoo (9579)
• Philippines
27 Nov 08
This is a terrible situation and I remember a friend of mine whose mother was going psychotic and my brother prescribed some geriatric vitamins for her which made her regain her chemical balance and ber mental balance.
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
27 Nov 08
I'm trying to convince my friend to go see her doctor again and let him know about her latest "symptoms". It could be something as simple as some supplements to get her back on track. Right now, she's been cooking all day. That is her therapy. She LOVES to cook and feed everyone, so she's had a pretty good day today. I just hope she isn't planning to put poison in her husband's food! I doubt it, though. I think she's going to get through tomorrow okay, at least. I'm calling a crisis center either tomorrow or Friday to see what they can tell me. I'm almost convinced this is caused by menopause and there HAS to be something that can help her since she cannot take hormone pills. We'll see. Thanks for your advice.
@Amberina (1541)
• United States
26 Nov 08
I have Fibro myself and speaking to one fibro sister to another you need to take care of yourself because you know what stress does to us it makes us only worse. Your friend is not in her right mind and I would get in the phone book and call every mental health person you can find and get some kind of help for her her threats cannot be takin lightly she is asking for help when she tells you these things she really doesn't want to kill anyone but she doesn't know how to get help and she knows you can help her so that's what you must do is call people get the word out about your freind your bound to run into someone who will help you. Take care of yourself and try to relax you have to think about your own health so that you can be strong to help her. Good luck.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
26 Nov 08
maybe she just needs some meds to calm her down. my sons girlfriend here has an awful temper and if she dont take her pill for her nerves, you got to walk on egg shells!
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
26 Nov 08
She has a ton of health issues that don't allow her to take certain medications. She had pancreatitis which left her with severe diabetes and she's also had 3 strokes. She's already on about 9 different meds. I know she can't take hormone replacement therapy (estrogen) nor can she take certain antidepressants. I wish I could get her to see her doctor, but I can't force her! She's a grown woman. I tried calling her husband where he works but was unable to reach him because they are closed for half a day today and I just got back from the doctor's office myself and getting my meds for this infection. I'll call her tonight and see, once again, if I can convince her to go see her doctor. I'll even volunteer to go with her! That's a mighty long drive for me, 220 miles round trip, but if it helps to prevent her from doing something she'll regret for the rest of her life, I'll do it.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
26 Nov 08
you are a wonderful friend dear and shes lucky to have you.
@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
26 Nov 08
Slapping the sh*t out of her might wake her up LOL
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
26 Nov 08
Ummm, thanks. I think a straightjacket might work better at this point. She's bigger than I am so I'm not going to slap the you know what out of her. Her husband is just not the kind of guy who would raise a hand against anyone, so he's not going to do it. Nope, the men in the white coats are needed right now... maybe some Thorazine.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
27 Nov 08
Does she smoke? If so, Wellbutrin will help her stop and also deal with her depression or whatever it is. Tell her St. John's wort will help with her hot flashes, it's an anti-depressant, too, and a natural remedy. That is scary! I hope she is all talk, but she must be totally miserable.