Obama in the MIddle
By pauld43
@pauld43 (194)
United States
November 28, 2008 11:09am CST
Is Obama turning into a moderate. It seems like he is leaning a little to the middle. He is even keeping Gates, a Bush man. Is all this political gain or is he doing it for the good of the country? Should those who put him in office be mad about this? Just who is Obama, and where does he really stand? I hope he is acting in the goos of our country, but it is hard to tell with politicians. One thing for sure is that it is going to be an interesting administration.
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@newtondak (3946)
• United States
28 Nov 08
I know there are a lot of Obama supporters who would have preferred that he not have any Bush "hold-overs" in his staff, but In the case of Gates, I think it is a very wise choice if he intends as he says "to hit the ground running". It would take way too much time to get someone new up to par on those types of issues.
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@LovesTravel (303)
• United States
29 Nov 08
It also doesn't hurt to recall that Bush nominated Gates as a concession to those who wanted to see the excesses of the Rumsfeld era brought to an end. Gates has never been a yes-man to the Bush Administration, and that fact has earned him the respect of many who disapproved of Bush and Cheney's policies, especially those regarding Iraq. Gates has a proven record of speaking his mind, even when his opinions are not popular with The Boss. Then he has hunkered down and worked to make sure the job he was handed is done effectively and efficiently. That's just the sort of person Obama says he wants in his cabinet and in the new administration as a whole. I'm not surprised that Gates would be asked to stay.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Nov 08
I agree, where Gates proved himself worthy of the position, Rumsfeld failed miserably. I remember defending Rumsfeld because I thought he was letting the commanders on the ground run the war... we all learned that he wasn't and the failures that it created.
Gates is a great addition to the Bush administration and will be just as great in the Obama administration as long as Obama doesn't get in the way.
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@chameleonsdream (1230)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I'm another one who never understood this whole belief that Obama is so far left he can't do right. As someone said earlier in the discussion, all you had to do was actually listen to the man and look at his record. He's a left-leaning moderate with a progressive social agenda. His economic and foreign relations policies are far closer to the center than they are to the far left. I do believe that he is acting in the country's best interests - which are middle-moderate policies. We need a strong defensive arm - which we should not be using in an offensive manner. I believe that keeping Gates is the right thing to do in the current situation. Continuity and experience count for something - count for a lot, actually.
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@oneidmnster (1384)
• United States
30 Nov 08
I do a know a lot of people and bellamommy is right on.If Obama were white he would never have been elected.Many people voted simply based on his race without understanding the issues.This wasn't just blacks.White people voted for him without knowing anything about what he stood for.
What Obama is doing now is showing his true colors.He's nothing more that a politician.All politicians are liars.The things Obama said during his campaign were why I was against him.Now that he's been elected,he knows he will never get many of the things he said passed,so he's changing his stance.I'm all for giving anyone a chance.All we can do is hope he'll actually listen to the people and use common sense.If he doesn't,we may end up in a bigger mess than we're in now.
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@bellamommy (192)
• United States
29 Nov 08
Many of the people I know were more interested in making history than researching the candidates and issues. Race should have never been factored into this, but it did. People vote for the wrong reason, and that will never change. You have to remember, the right to vote applies to everyone, educated or not. I am hoping he will do some good.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
29 Nov 08
I think it's great that he's keeping Gates. Gates has proven himself very well in that position and Obama would be a fool to not have at least thought about it.
Obama said that he would choose his cabinet without regard to party or ideology, this is the only example of him keeping that promise.
On the other hand, Obama did say that we don't need the same people doing the same things in Washington. So this kind of flies in the face of that remark.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Nov 08
I've never understood all of those who have said Obama was so far left to begin with. I think he's been making it clear where he stands on all of the issues from the beginning of his campaign and I sincerely believe he is acting in the good of our country. I also think he's quite serious about wanting to unite us once again as a country which will be no small task.
Annie
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I'm well aware of Obama's voting record as well as Biden's over all the years he's been in the Senate and neither of them are "far left" by any means. I agree with the poster that said what some call far left in the U.S. would be considered moderate in the rest of the world.
Annie
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@LovesTravel (303)
• United States
29 Nov 08
All I can say is that it doesn't take much to hit with the label "far left" in the Bush era. In most of the rest of the democractic West, "far left" as labeled in the United States is viewed as moderate.
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@Troublegum (641)
• United States
29 Nov 08
The "Far left" thing comes from his voting record. One of the most liberal voting records in the Senate. Some of his issues he backed off of a little because they wouldn't meet public perception tests for the Campaign.
So it is not unreasonable to think he is pretty far left personally, I think when he started getting the presidential briefings, and access to a little more information he probably got some sense smacked into him that ideals and theory don't exactly cut it in the real world when lived and industries are at stake, so he moved a little further to the center, and we are probably all better off for it.
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@bellamommy (192)
• United States
29 Nov 08
In my opinion, I think he may be trying to please everyone. He's the new guy, and not very experienced, so he's bound to make some mistakes. I did not support Obama, but I am willing to give him a chance. But the sad thing is politicians lie, and there is no way to tell what they will actually do until it's done.
@shoffman2000 (560)
• Alexandria, Virginia
29 Nov 08
While it may be a good idea that Gates stays on, Hilliary to State means no no change no change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
30 Nov 08
He has always been liberal and it's hard for me to believe (with a liberal democrat congress) that he will change.