Should religion be removed from mylot
@choudhary03 (943)
Hyderabad, India
November 30, 2008 1:04pm CST
Guys i am fed up with discussions which hate other religions. I think the biggest mistake made by mylot is to put up religion. It is helping some people to know about what is right and what is wrong but at the end it is tempering hatred and distrust.
We lame mortals who struggle entire life to live talk about God. People should understand that it is love which people get attracted to. Love which does not know boundaries, love which does not know religion and love which is as pure as fire. But people these days are not talking about love, peace or humanity. Most discussions in religion of Mylot have hatred looming at the end.
Let me guess nobody can garnish the essence of their religion. Let me also clarify this no religion is greater than anyone`s. No person in this world has the right to say wrong about any other religion.
Islam,Hinduism,Christianity,Judaism,Greeks gods, etc all convey a similar message love your neighbor and spread love.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
30 Nov 08
Well, Satanism conveys the message of hate and it is a religion...
Lol, sorry, I couldn't stop it. I have to disagree that a religion forum is a mistake. Although the discussions tend to get heated or there is somebody who absolutely things that his/her position is the one and only... well, there is plenty of others who attempt to explain their religion and to clear away with misconceptions. There is a lot to be learned about other religions and having a forum like that helps in learning to understand. I think not having a forum in fact would aid alienation of other religions instead of further understanding, love, and peace.
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@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
30 Nov 08
Actually Satanism does not convey a message of hate at all. Just one more reason the religion category should stay, to clear up a lot of misconceptions.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Well, Satanism conveys the message of hate and it is a religion...
LOL excuse me??? That just goes to show you know NOTHING about Satanism! Satanism is actually a very logical belief system...it does NOT promote, encourage or have anything to do with hate at all..
You are the perfect example as it was said, why the religion section needs to stay..to EDUCATE ppl..
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Okay, then those who practice satanism, please enlighten us... not just those who think they know something about it...
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
2 Dec 08
To answer your first question...no way should religion be removed from mylot. Just like I think as much as people try to remove it from society they cannot and should never do this.
Whichever religion people choose to follow they should have every right and respect to speak about it. Plus, I look at it this way you take religion out of public forums then the non believers who have no factual evidence of a existence of any God will think they have upped their evidence a notch as to the non existence of God.
God is humanity. We have already taken it out of the schools completely. We have broken homes and see children who have little morals and ethics. Believe me I was not raised in a home where it was essential to attend church. In fact I was allowed to attend ANY church I wanted to....as long as if I had a question I came home and asked about it. This exposure to other religions and the opportunity to learn by experience has led me to my firm belief in God. And I am not a church goer.
Plus, people can attempt to ignore God's existence and people can attempt to remove God from the public's eye....but the truth always stands out in the end. We already have enough lack of respect and tolerance out there....why add to it by creating even more censorship.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 08
I want to mention that I support your stance in that I do not believe in censorship, yet I do believe there should be consequences for disrespect and people who are trying to use scare tactics, fear, or power to 'lord' something over someone else or claim they are right and someone else is not. That is why there's so much negativity in a lot of religion threads. People are NOT sitting there and offering up viewpoints respectfully. You have one person over here saying one thing and someone else jumping in and saying the opposite and someone trying to accept both and tell both that they have valid points but from then on they start arguing about who's wrong! This is usually why these discussions devolve into some virtual lord of the flies-esque situation.
@taface412 (3175)
• United States
6 Dec 08
Mommyboo the same can also be said about politics, sexuality, education, etc. These topics have evolved into a religious sorts of rights and wrongs also. But no matter how ugly it can get in discussions I would rather have the opportunity to take part in discussions than to have them completely eliminated. Everyone and anyone who either reads the posts or responds or post the topics have a choice. They have a choice to write it, to read it and to respond to it. And other readers here on the lot have the choice also to read them or not.
I skip over quite a bit of topics because of fighting. That's their choice, and I exercise mine.
Plus, this devolution you speak of is just another example of humanity. And we will learn from it. One way or another. Even in Lord of the Flies was a prime example that many of us have watched...
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
18 Dec 08
Should religion be removed? Two words , hell no! I am lucky that I live in the U.s. where there is both freedom of speech And freedom of religion. There is even freedom From religion. MyLot should and is the same. True there are people who hate Every religion save their own but they have the right to speak. I prefer it so you Know who they are than they just lurk in the darkness. And besides for every closed minded person , there are three who ask questions and learn something.I have learned a few thing And have answered questions about my religion.
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@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
30 Nov 08
No person in this world has the right to say wrong about any other religion. Do you really believe that? If no person has to the right to speak their mind about religion, what other rights are you willing to take away? No discussions about politics, nationality, culture, customs? All are subjects which stir emotions as well. But absolutely necessary to discuss if we are going to learn about each other.
I don't think it was a mistake at all. There is going to be distrust and hatred between religions whether myLot is here or not. The only way people are going to learn tolerance is through knowledge and dialogue. It may not always be pleasant but it serves a purpose. You can walk a thousand miles even if you're taking baby steps.
If it bothers you so much choudhary, just don't read it. There are plenty of other categorys and interests to choose from.
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@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Absolutely right, craftcatcher!!!! So many people nowadays feel that complete silence = tolerance. But that is not true -- that is intolerance. Tolerance is accepting differing viewpoints, even with disagreement, not banning all viewpoints, or banning all comments about viewpoints. We give up a seemingly small part of our freedom and it become a slippery slope, to where we will have no freedoms at all.
@warmweatherwoman (2233)
• Atlantic City, New Jersey
1 Dec 08
I too am fed up with discussions about religion on mylot and I am really fed up with peoples disrespect for one anothers beliefs. It really goes against every belief to be so hateful towards your fellow man- but their constant lack of seeing that is what keeps me away from these conversations on mylot. I avoid them because I don't feel I should have to defend my beliefs towards no one, just as I expect no one to defend theirs towards me. I respect those who respect themselves and others and only choose those to have meaningful conversations such as religion with :)
@choudhary03 (943)
• Hyderabad, India
1 Dec 08
Thank you lady for understanding my concern. Thank you very much for providing such wonderful information.
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@lovelyvelle (639)
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1 Dec 08
Sorry, but mylot has nothing to do if people hate others here because of the discussion or forum about religion. It's some of the members or people here who are judging others who have not the same religion them. So, I don't think that religion should be removed from mylot as a forum. It's the people should be careful of what they say towards others about their own beliefs and religion, not to judge them or trying to recruit into their religion which they believe in.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I am okay with people talking about religion, but I think that there should be some rules on the subject:
1. No bashing other religions
2. No shoving other religions on other people
@munhozmib (3836)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
1 Dec 08
Hello, choudhary03.
I disagree with the action of removing Religion interest from myLot. We should not try to hide it. Let's all learn how to talk about religion instead of just hiding it. Let's all stop being selfish. Let's all stop saying that MY GOD is the true one. Why do you insist on that? Nobody, and I really mean NOBODY has ever seen their Gods. Why? Because they would "get blind", or because God "does not shows himself". Anyway, they have never seen. They might know that there is a God through prayer or through actions, but they have never seen a God nor heard his voice. There is a God right now in here. Here, with me. There, by your side. In your heart. And this God is called love. Let's all practice what love teaches us. Let's not disrespect others. Let's not be arrogant. Let's all stop being childish when saying that we are correct and others are wrong.
Let's all accept the fact that there are thousands of religions out there, and that nobody is going to change their religion just because you say that yours is true.
Respectfully,
Munhozmib.
@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I too believe that discussion is good, and
just as I enjoy my right and priviledge to
speak in behalf of God and the Bible, It is
just as important for athiests, pagans and
others who deny God and or His existance, to
speak as well.
There are several areas that I seldom visit here,
simply because they don't interest me. But I do enjoy
the inter-action with the discussions I do get into, as
long as folks don't get ugly just because I said something
that they vehemently disagree with.
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@munhozmib (3836)
• Sao Paulo, Brazil
2 Dec 08
TheDogShrink: by saying that your God is the only true one, you will automatically offend many believers. You will be saying that all their prayers, all they do, it is all a waste of time. You will say that all their love and dedication are to nothing.
Yes, I do think you should respect all, but don't say that yours is the only one.
ClassyCat: I understand. There are people who are easily offended, specially because the subject in here is religion. I don't get offended, though. But let me put you a question: why should you defend your beliefs to others? I mean, if you believe, isn't that enough already? There is no point in trying to defend yourself. Let others think that you are trusting the wrong God. Right?
Choudhary03: I am sorry. I did not mean to say that YOU said that. I said it in a general way. I was meaning about the people who do it, not about you. :D
@choudhary03 (943)
• Hyderabad, India
1 Dec 08
Munhozmib: -I never insisted or said in my discussions that my god is true one.
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@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Nov 08
The different religions always have some sort of war against each other. This is a problem that has gone on ever since history has started being recorded. While the topic of religion may be heated, the fact that these discussions are actually happening is a step in the right direction. People are adamant in politics as well, and some of those conversations are even more heated than the ones in religion. Banning one topic, can led to others. While you may object to religious arguments, others object to political arguments, and even others may object to other things. I would rather have a maximum potential for earning on this site. I can only do this if I have a wide variety of topics to comment on. If you don't like a religious argument than it is easy to just avoid it completely. Every one has different opinions, because they have different experiences, different backgrounds, and different points of view. I do agree with your main statement of love.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
6 Dec 08
Well, just like it isn't MONEY that is the root of evil, it is the ABUSE of money, it isn't RELIGION that is the root of evil either (even though it seems like it), the way people deal with religion causes evil. Everybody is so sure they are right and everyone else is wrong. In order to deal effectively with different people and different religions, people need to adopt the philosophy of live and let live ie you do your thing, I'll do mine and not try to make anybody feel guilty, get in each other's way, or be obnoxious as only humans can do.
I think POWER is the root of evil, and power can infringe on everything, religion being just one of them. Politics is another arena where there is a lot of crud and a lot of well... evil. It's because there is abuse of power going on, and it is hidden from people, lots of lies lots of hypocrisy, lots of double standards.
The problem is that people cannot be respectful toward other opinions and views when it is in such a sensitive and emotion wrought arena as religion. I wish that religions did not teach that other religions are 'wrong'. This is what causes the endless disruption and hate. I also wish that religions did not teach that people of each religion are supposed to convert other people. THIS is what causes the anger from others - people do not want to be converted! If things could be discussed civilly without conversion attempts, without anybody saying 'i'm right and you're wrong', without judgements and all that jazz, then it would be fine.
I just don't think that people are able to do this, so yes, it would be a wise decision to remove it. I doubt it will be removed though lol. It bothers me that people can continue to be so immature about this without any discipline, but you know, actions speak louder than words so the people who act like the most jerks in promoting their religion probably do the most damage to their religion as a result. Maybe someday they'll learn, maybe someday they won't. Doesn't matter to me, I just notice they are making fools of themselves and I wonder why.
@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Some of the best discussions are the religious ones. I don't think anyone hates the other person just because of his or her religion. What will you want to get rid of next, politics?
@RMGray (16)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I can appreciate your frustration. The point you make about all religions having a core message of love and acceptance is absolutely true. I have dedicated a good portion of my life to studying and understanding the belief systems of other people and cultures, and I can tell you that there is value in continued discussion of religion...here at myLot or in any other venue. Discussion, while it can get heated and in some cases violent, does foster a progression toward enlightenment and understanding. Not discussing it (religion) will not make the ignorance and hate disappear...it will simply fester until it boils over into violence.
Your viewpoint is indicative of someone who obviously cares about spirituality and religious acceptance...we need more people like you engaging in these discussions...from a perspective of love. Only love and acceptance can overcome ignorance and hatred...don't keep your love from the rest of the world :-)!
RM Gray
http://www.GrowThyself.org
@thedogshrink (1266)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Do you mean "extreme topics" in religion or some other "extreme topics"? I can't think of what extreme topics are allowed.
@thedreamer09 (899)
• India
1 Dec 08
i too feel that there is no need for the religions because all the religions preach the same thing to love and to be loved by other no religion preaches to kill others or say that their religion is superior so there is no need for a religion and i believe that the earth would be happier if there are no religions in this world
@choudhary03 (943)
• Hyderabad, India
1 Dec 08
Absolutely true. Thank you for having a broad view on things rather than narrow picture.
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@poohgal (6845)
• Singapore
1 Dec 08
I always thought that the categories are added by the mylotters.
I always believe in freedom of speech. You can say what you want and I respect it. I can say what I want too. Of course, we have to be responsible for what we say.
Be it religion or any other topics, if we just to participate in those discussions, we must do so with an open mind.
We shouldn't discuss with a 'I am right but you are wrong' attitude. That's only going to bring about arguments.
I agree with you. All religions convey 'Love'.
@chandu245 (647)
• India
1 Dec 08
Well according to me we should give respect to every religion. No one is high and no one is low. We should know create any problems by the name of religions. It's not good and not reliable. Offcourse every religion is having their own thoughts but every religion having the same thing that dont differentiate others and mingle with every one.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
1 Dec 08
i feel that on a forum one should have the freedom to discuss and share their opinions.hopefully, this will clear a lot of misunderstanding.There is bound to be many a misunderstandings and mis interpretations.But all in all we do learn as we discuss and read others views about religion.
@Grace030174 (741)
• Qatar
1 Dec 08
Different religion will have some sort of misunderstanding against each other. If you dont like a religion argument then avoid the topic. We should respect the belief of other people.
we should be careful of what theyl say towards others about religion and not to judge one's belief.
other people like to debates when it regards with religion.
I think religion should stay in mylot, by reading some postings, you will learn other's belief.
happy lotting!
@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
1 Dec 08
Discussions on Religion need not be removed. Only people should observe some decorum when they discuss religion because it is a very sensitive and explosive subject. If someone is an Atheist and not interested in Religion he/she could just avoid this forum. It is very necessary to build bridges between people torn by religion. So, it is very much necessary to build a good healthy forum. Trust your and others' education, training, and manners.Everything will be fine.
@mahdisyah (38)
• Indonesia
1 Dec 08
i think that religion should not be removed from this site. Because it is very interesting topic.religion is our believe, we can not force other person to the one religion.i think that that the topic that they post must not offensive topic because people may have hatred.