Catholics who voted for Obama should go to confession?!!
By collieluv28
@collieluv28 (388)
United States
December 1, 2008 2:13pm CST
I read this little blurb in my local newspaper about a priest somewhere in our great United States who said that if you are Catholic & you voted for Obama, then you should go to confession. Why? Because Obama is "pro-abortion". First of all, I believe that Obama is pro-choice. There is a difference. Secondly, there were many reasons to vote for Obama. Just because you may not agree with one thing that a person stands for does not mean that you should write that person off. Barack Obama was the right choice for President in my humble opinion & I will not go to confession because I voted for the best person for the job.
Any fellow Catholics out there who voted for Obama & now find their faith being questioned? What do you think about this, Catholic or not? In case you can't tell, I am really upset about this.
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18 responses
@newtondak (3946)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I personally think that churches and their representatives (ministers, priests, etc.)
should refrain from being publicly verbal about political issues. Each persons' faith is a personal matter as are their beliefs and it should be left to them to make whatever choices them deem necessary to support those beliefs.
No church or sect should be singled out as being believers or non-believers of any particular doctrine or of supporters of non-supporters of any political issue - being of one particular denomination does not necessarily mean that you all believe the same!
@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
So true. Although I am Catholic, there are many things I do not agree with that the church teaches. Then there are other things I really like about the church. The bottom line is that faith is a personal, private matter. Politics does not belong in the church.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Dec 08
The Pope said it, so the local church leaders should enforce it. If not then they aren't really Catholic at all.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
4 Dec 08
Believe it or not Ted, a Catholic does not have to believe something the pope says unless it is said X-Cathedra which means from the throne of Peter. The last time that power was used by the church was about 100 yrs ageo to declare the immaculate conception which means merely that Mary was conceived without original sin. It doesn't have anything to do with a virgin birth which is another tjing Catholics do not have to believe.
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
3 Dec 08
I'm Catholic and I voted for Obama. I have no regrets and nothing to confess. I'm also pro choice even though I personally find abortion deplorable. In fact, I've never met anyone who was pro-abortion although I've know women who had abortions.
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@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
4 Dec 08
I don't see how anyone can be "pro-abortion". I feel the same way - the woman in the situation should have a choice in the matter but that doesn't mean that I am for abortion. I'm not confessing either because I didn't do anything wrong!
@gwoman2 (710)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Hi Collieluv28, it all goes back to religion and people's beliefs...don't let it upset you...I worked as a challenger in the elections and you'd be surprised at how some election workers were trying to stop the younger first time voters from voting...thank GOD I was there cause I didn't let it go down like that...they all voted provisional, meaning on paper...I was very well hated at this election, but guess what? I don't care!! As for Obama, believe I fervently believe that GOD, the one and only, was up there cheering him on just as we were!!
Stay cool and always strong in your beliefs!
~G~
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@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thanks, gwoman2, I will always strongly believe! Good for you working the elections. I was an election worker for this past election & we were trained not to influence voters in any way. There were poll watchers here & there - I don't see how anyone could get away with anything. Shame on those election workers for trying.
I do think God was cheering Obama on. Obama is a good, Christian man & will do right for our country. Not that McCain is evil or anything - I just didn't think he was the right person for the job at this time.
@gwoman2 (710)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Hi P1kef1sh,
a challenger is a person who sits close but not too close to the official election workers...his or her job is to make certain that everyone votes even if their name does not appear in the book...as long as they have their registration cards they cannot be turned away. A challenger cannot voice his or her opinion about any and all candidates, they remain quiet and watchful of every move the workers make with the public. The only time we are allowed to speak is when we see that a worker is telling any voter that they cannot vote, also, any negative comments about candidates by the election workers is prohibited and must be reported...this is taken quite seriously. And yes, to be a challenger you are with one party or the other...in my case I worked for our local Obama campaign. A challenger is very well hated because all election workers know what our job is and so they have to watch their peas and Qs!!
What was amazing to me was how outspoken these workers were especially with the younger first time voters, if it would have been up to them, they wouldn't have allowed none of them to vote, and their were many, many youngsters voting this year. I am proud to say that because of my wonderful hearing abilities they all voted, many had to vote provisional, meaning on paper, which the election workers hate because it creates more work for them...but you know what? They get $200.00 just to sit on their hinies and have the voters sign and sometimes the new voting machines had to be explained...Everytime I heard an election worker say "sorry you can't vote because your name is not in the book...that's when I can speak directly to the worker and say, "excuse me, they can vote provisional"...I don't think I have to tell you how very much I was hated!! But who cares, everyone has the right to vote and as far as women are concerned, it took a long and bitter battle for us to be able to vote at all.
Hope this explains a challenger's responsibilities...oh by the way, a challenger makes exactly the same amount as an election worker, only difference is that challengers get paid that same night and workers must wait about a month for the county to mail them their pay!
~G~
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Catholics were told before the election not to vote for Obama because he would allow for abortions to take place. This was done directly and indirectly from the pulpit and in newsletters. Abortion is something the catholic church strictly forbids. They view it as a taking of a human life, a breaking of the ten commandments, a cardinal sin. I was raised catholic and have heard the anti-abortion sermons numerous times, lol. This is just one of the many weird things they do and probably should have stayed out of. Now by extension as in voting for a pro-choice or pro-abortion person to be president (doesn't really matter where he stands as long as it qualifies as not anti-abortion), one commits the sin of killing another human being... Alas, one needs to go to confession to be freed of the sin one committed;)
It's doubtful that many catholics will follow that call to confession. Those who probably would most likely didn't vote for Obama in the first place;)
Personally, I chalk it up as one of the many weird things the catholic church has come up with over the centuries. If you are catholic, voted for Obama, and didn't go to confess it and receive absolution for that... I doubt God will care. Really, come on, how many presidents and other leaders before Obama were pro-choice and even pro-abortion, and the catholic church didn't give this order...
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@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Good point, why did the church mention confession for voting for Obama but not other Presidents who were pro-choice? I agree, God will not condemn me or any other Catholic for voting for Obama. I think he knows in his wisdom that Obama was the right choice for this point in time. My husband was raised Catholic, I converted to Catholicism before we married. He's used to hearing this stuff - me, I still get incensed.
@nadooa247 (1096)
• United States
1 Dec 08
While running for office and the polls were open Catholics were told that they would go to hell for voting for him i actually read this tid bit right here on MyLot. The poster had a link to the article as well. I am sorry but since when did church or any other place of worship start telling people that their political affiliations will land them in hell? NOW this confession bit... sorry i know im not Catholic but even i find this offensive. No i am not a "Obama will change the world" person but i sure do agree with you. There IS a line between pro-choice and pro-abortion. Also logically every person has a varying set of morals, believes, and whatever else you want to call them---. So it is reasonable to say that the guy or gal running for office will not be %100 in accordance with what it is you believe.
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@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I guess I'm going to hell... The Catholic church is going to end up empty if they keep up with this nonsense. There are very few people out there that you can agree with 100% of the time - politicians are at the top of the list on that one. You go with what you think is right & deal with the rest.
@megaplaza (1441)
• Nigeria
2 Dec 08
thats absolute rubbish, and i don't think any catholic needs to worry about his faith cos the priest, though ordained is only human and have lapses. so ride on guyz, obama 4 life.
@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
After reading all these posts, I feel much better. I'm not worried at all - my faith is strong!
@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
10 Feb 09
I agree - hypocrytical is a good word to describe it. I am very disappointed in the Catholic faith.
@Monkeyrose (2840)
• Canada
1 Dec 08
meh... I live in Canada and never heard about this article. I think Catholics are smart enough to make decisions for themselves. This is one priest in the whole of the USA who made this comment.
Okay yes, if you are Catholic then being pro-choice does equal being pro-abortion. but whatever. The priest is entitled to his opinion.... but yah people do sinful things quite frequently so adding one more to the pot isn't really a big deal.... being jealous is a sin.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
1 Dec 08
Um, it wasn't just one US priest, it was the Pope.
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@Monkeyrose (2840)
• Canada
1 Dec 08
meh whatever ... technically being pro-choice is agaisn't the catholic church.. he has a right to say it... I'm not catholic so I could care less
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
1 Dec 08
I was a catholic up until the whole priest thing happened. Then I couldnät follow a religion that wouldnt kick certian priest out of there church when they where comiting a crime. So yeah I have long sence left relgions in general for good old spirality. This isnt the first time that a catholic priest has said something like that. The Gay marriage thing was another big one in mz state. I personallz believe that a religious order should never influence zour desicion in an election. It should always be your own personal beliefs that should be the deciding factor. I also agree that Obama was the best choice.
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@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thanks, dark_joev, I too have issues with the Catholic church. Priests who abuse boys, gay marriage, not allowing priests to be married, not allowing women to become priests, birth control, etc. I wish the church would get out of the dark ages & get with the times.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
1 Dec 08
Nah, I'm Catholic and my uncle is a priest and he voted for Obama. I think I'm safe lol I don't know why some priests have not come out to say if you voted for McCain you need to confess since he was divorced... It's all silly nonsense...
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@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Good for for your uncle! I could be wrong, but I thought that Obama won the Catholic vote. During the elections I found a website of pro-life Catholics for Obama & they stated very well why you can be Catholic & still vote for Obama. If the Catholic church keeps up with this nonsense, their churches will be empty.
I didn't think about the fact that McCain was divorced. Gee, why didn't the church bring that up? Oh well, it's all said & done.
Thanks, ZephyrSun, I feel safe now.
@bbydollz (114)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I honestly believe this is wrong to write in a newspaper but honestly if you believe what the media says then you are crazy. Who you voted for is your own opinion. Everyone has opinions. But I just wish this election would have been done differently in the fact that some people voted for Obama because of his skin color and not looking at the problems we face in our country. I believe that we should of had a president in there that had experience and wisdom and not a newcomer who has only been in the senate for 36 months and not as a senator he was a junior senator. Like I said everyone has their beliefs and I have mine. But when our country goes down the hill because of this election I will only say I told you so. Obama may say more money for the poor and in fact he is going to take away from everyone. It is said that alot of people will loose their homes and everything else. What is he going to do to help that nothing.
@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I will have to respectfully disagree with you. Obama will whip this country into shape.
@cloudstrife (50)
• Canada
2 Dec 08
I'm a roman catholic and even tho I live in Canada, if i lived in the states I would have voted for Obama 100%. I hate when people (priest or no priest) make idiotic comments like this.
you have to weigh the pros and cons of each candidate. and what they stand for and what their policies are going to be and if they agree with your beliefs and your religion.
@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Amen to that, cloudstrife. You shouldn't vote for a candidate based on one issue & you shouldn't be punished for voting a certain way.
@platinumgold (135)
• Philippines
2 Dec 08
Oh really! How this priest say that Obama is pro abortion? I have no idea about Obama's way in population control. But this priest should concentrate on their duty to guide their member and follow their teachings, practice, their tradition, and not teaching the government what to do. They should first teach their followers to obey God teaching so that they will not commit any lawless act.
Why not convince their followers who involve in Pedophile member to confess their sin to God?, instead of blaming the government or a politician.
@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
No kidding. I wish the church would stay out of politics & teach their flock regarding religious pursuits.
@worldbestwriter2008 (1633)
• Philippines
2 Dec 08
i'm really upset about this news... i really don't expect that this is the attitude of America's new president..We should be pro-life right..i really hate anti-life system. And one thing..Why catholics didn't realize 'bout this things..This something to do with crimes...There's a life on it...Anyway i look forward to the America's economic system but i'm hoping that this pro-abortion system wouldn't be practice anymore and will be omitted..
@luvandpower (2048)
• United States
1 Dec 08
i heard about this article, i agree it was wrong on what they wrote, and truthfully that they had no right to considering they had no proof about that anyway... i voted for mccain though for a different reason. even though abortion is a good reason on a way to vote, the way our economy is in is a more important reason. i believe obama's way of "give to the poor from the wealthy " is not going to work, big business is in need of incentives not of giving away more money.
@collieluv28 (388)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I appreciate your opinion. There should be several reasons to vote for a President - abortion being one issue of many.