save auto worker's jobs!
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
December 5, 2008 2:27pm CST
The Big 3, the Unions and many in Congress and across the country are saying that Congress has to bail out the Big 3 to avoid the loss of so many jobs in the US.
Well, what should be done to save everyone else's jobs?
Hundreds of thousands of people have lost their jobs, and it will be over a million before too long. Why are the jobs of the auto workers so sacred that they must be protected when others aren't?
What makes one person's job any more important than anyone else's?
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3 responses
@1grnthmb (2055)
• United States
9 Dec 08
This is kind of a two edge sword. The auto industry here in the US affect something like 100 million jobs. It affects more then just employees of the Big 3. It affects all the suppliers, service people all the supporters for those people. So the Big 3 are an essential part of our economy. But then if the Government bails them out who else is going to ask for a bail out. It sets a precedent for all other companies to follow. You have a difficult time and waste money then just ask the government to help you.
The biggest problem with the Big 3 is that they do not really supply the vehicles that are needed (some of that is because we as buy models of cars that are not what is needed in the long run). Design and sales of the Big 3 has always been driven by consumer desires. People wanted big cars, SUVs and Trucks The latter two making up 50% of all sales. Then the gas prices went up. People wanted smaller more economical cars. The imported cars fit the market and started getting most of the sales. The Big 3 had been building mostly big vehicles. All of a sudden they were not selling cars. It is not an easy thing for them to just do a jump and start making more economical cars. But they should have learned from the energy crisis of the 70's where the same thing happened. They should have been producing cars all along that fit into both catagories. Had their factories ready to swicht over when needed.
Another problem that I have seen is that the Big 3 have not been consistent in what they do. For a while GM was partnering with Toyota and produce small very economical cars here in the US. The GEO was a very economical car. I had one and loved it. I got 40 miles per gallon. But it was a small car and not equipped for a family so it had to go out the door for a mini van that only got 18 miles per gallon. I was part of that consumer push for the bigger vehicle.
The Big 3 have always complained that the imported cars took a big part of their market. They made the economic cars that were not well liked because they were not comfortable and had a bad repair problem while the imported cars were comfortable as well as economical and had a fairly good repair history. So they lost the segment of the consumers because they were not responsive to what the consumers wanted.
So now it comes back to the Big 3 Asking the government to bail them out. I can see if they are given a loan, If they cut their overhead (Just why do each one of the big wigs need their own private jet). Cut excessive costs from the top and reorganize to be more efficient. Build cars that are economical as well as comfortable and long lasting. If they want a hand out instead then it is time for them to go the way of American Motors.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
10 Dec 08
It isn't the responsibility of the Big 3 or any other company to force feed us the products that a few people demand. The reason they make the vehicles they do is, those are the vehicles we want to drive.
Take a lesson from your own experience. Yes, the GEO had some great features, but when it came down to it, we bought them once, but didn't replace them with another from the line. Enough people chose something else that the market cast them into the trash heap of history.
The question is, if The Big 3 are keeping a good percentage of the marketshare, how come they are in such bad shape?
It has nothing to do with the vehicles they are selling, since we are obviously willing to buy them. So what is happening with the Big 3 that isn't happening with car companies that aren't hurting...
Major mismanagement... unreasonable demands from Unions and Government.
But you are right, if the Big 3 go down the tubes, a lot of people who don't work directly for them will go too. But then again, that will happen if every major company in the US goes down... so where do we draw the line in bail outs.
Every dime of bail out is borrowed, so each dime given means hundreds of dollars in debt.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
6 Dec 08
They should save all the jobs and stop outsourcing them. People who have been laid off, cannot buy anything. So if they want the people of America to live at a lower standard of living, walk to work, rent instead of buy, then they can do what they are doing right now, outsource the jobs to where people are willing to work for next to nothing. Unemployed people do not buy things or eat at restaurants. They live on pasta and bologna sandwiches and shop at thrift stores.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Dec 08
Way to change the subject to fit your agenda....
Outsourcing has been going on since the 70s and the economy has absorbed the losses. In fact the number of people employed today is significantly higher than it was in the 70s... and the average income rate is much higher also.
The point is, why are Big 3 jobs so much more important than anyone else's?
@LuvBr0wn13s (765)
• United States
6 Dec 08
I work for a very large company that decided that the answer to their budget crisis was to outsource. So, each month several americans have lost their jobs and were replaced by folks in India. So yeah, it would be nice to hear what is going to be done about the thousands of other jobs being lost in other sectors of commerce.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
10 Dec 08
Apparenlty, unless those companies can successfully be socialized like the Big 3... you're just out of luck.